Guest MattP Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 You realise I didn't actually intend to piss on a homeless guy? And homeless doesn't equal disabled.
Alf Bentley Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 You realise I didn't actually intend to piss on a homeless guy? And homeless doesn't equal disabled. So, you wet yourself while standing next to a homeless guy, thereby unintentionally pissing on him? And then you broke into the home of a disabled guy to piss on him (in his spare room, in lieu of bedroom tax, no doubt)? Shocking conduct by the Bullingdon Club (Leicestershire Branch)!
Claridge Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Don't you think the people who voted him in were tories then? Why not? Because I believe in freedom of choice. No problem paying if I use it
Wymsey Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Because I believe in freedom of choice. No problem paying if I use it It's like saying Sky Sports should be free. The channel won't be able to continuously improve its quality to viewers if it can't get viewing fees etc.
Frank to be Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Fed up with this anti-MP shit now. Oooh he claimed 9p on expenses! Who gives a shit. You wanted them to put in place processes to make sure their expenses had an audit trail and they did. Oooh he bought a sofa for his poxy flat in London! You expect him to sit on the floor? Christ, talk about a lack of perspective. Even if he was asleep, and I m sure some of them do fall asleep, perhaps the comment should be "hard working MPs in parliament until 10pm on important union reform debate" He could always, you know, buy his own sofa. Picturing the look on my boss' face when I put a sofa on expenses because "I can't sit on the floor, can I"?
Buce Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 You realise I didn't actually intend to piss on a homeless guy? And homeless doesn't equal disabled. Maybe so, but to cite you as an example of a compassionate Tory is stretching the imagination beyond belief.
Wymsey Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Fgs, critics already having a pop at him over something minor. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34263447
Guest MattP Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Maybe so, but to cite you as an example of a compassionate Tory is stretching the imagination beyond belief. Depends what you describe as compassion, I'd move heaven and earth to try and get someone earning who wanted too, I double that effort if they were disabled and wanted too. I don't and never have believed throwing money at people equals compassion for them. Fgs, critics already having a pop at him over something minor. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34263447 Just makes him look a bit childish, I don't believe in God either but I wouldn't refuse to sing a hymn at a funeral or something, does he really think whenever a French blokes sings the anthem they are really about to go out and start slashing the throats of people. He is actually there as the representative of the opposition being the leader, not in a personal capacity. He should just grow up and sing the anthem, he's already taken an oath to the Queen to serve in parliament. Looking forward to November, anyone seen Michael Foot's donkey jacket?
Nick Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 This page reads like social exclusion top trumps - now that'd be a card game!
The Blur Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Maybe so, but to cite you as an example of a compassionate Tory is stretching the imagination beyond belief. I only said Matt was compassionate towards disabled people judging by his opinions on disabled related matters that crop up on here especially in the welfare/employment debate- it does not mean he is compassionate as whole. I have disagreed with lot of his opinions in the past (no offence Matt but I do not really know you enough to fully describe your personality traits). I would have thought you knew better than to exaggerate Buce.
Guest MattP Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 This page reads like social exclusion top trumps - now that'd be a card game! That would be terrific. Missed this last week Any FT'ers on the demo? http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Protesters-cover-Liz-Kendall-s-office-sweary/story-27794443-detail/story.html Protesters have targeted the office of Leicester West MP Liz Kendall over the way she voted on Welfare reform. Members of a group called Class War Midlands staged a demonstration outside her constituency office on Friday - the day before it was announced Ms Kendall had failed in her bid to become Labour leader. A small group of campaigners, some hooded and dressed in black, put posters up on the front of the property in Narborough Road with offensive language directed at Ms Kendall as well as her fellow Leicester MPs Keith Vaz and Jon Ashworth. All three abstained in a House of Commons vote on Tory Welfare reforms in July. There were 48 MPs - including new leader Jeremy Corbyn - who defied whips to oppose the conservative reforms. One of the protesters, who would only give her name as Jen, said: "We wanted to show her (Ms Kendall) people in Leicester are not happy that she abstained in the Welfare bill vote. "It will effect the most vulnerable people in her constituency and we would have expected her to vote against it - not abstain. "For her and the other Labour MPs it was a political game to keep Harriet Harman (the acting Labour leader at the time) happy. "She wasn't thinking about the people affected by the Tory's attack on the vulnerable. "We didn't expect her to be there because it was the day before the leadership result but we called out on a megaphone to see if someone would come out to speak to us. Nobody did. "We did some chanting. It was noisy but it was a peaceful protest." Ms Kendall said: "I'd have been happy to meet with any of my constituents amongst this group to discuss the Government's Welfare Reform Bill. "Instead they chose to stand a few feet from a children's library swearing. "I obviously support people's fundamental rights to protest but this kind of behaviour in a public environment is completely unacceptable." A member of staff at Ms Kendall's office told the Mercury: "I don't know what they were trying to achieve. "They did this outside office hours when nobody was there nobody here. "I am told they ended up shouting at family flats above the office. "Local people have no time for this kind of politics."
Buce Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I only said Matt was compassionate towards disabled people judging by his opinions on disabled related matters that crop up on here especially in the welfare/employment debate- it does not mean he is compassionate as whole. I have disagreed with lot of his opinions in the past (no offence Matt but I do not really know you enough to fully describe your personality traits). I would have thought you knew better than to exaggerate Buce. I certainly can't be bothered to trawl through all Matt's posts, but if you want to prove your assertion, perhaps you'd like to. Show me an example of Matt's compassion before you accuse me of exaggeration.
Rincewind Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I only said Matt was compassionate towards disabled people judging by his opinions on disabled related matters that crop up on here especially in the welfare/employment debate- it does not mean he is compassionate as whole. I have disagreed with lot of his opinions in the past (no offence Matt but I do not really know you enough to fully describe your personality traits). I would have thought you knew better than to exaggerate Buce. I don't think Matt is as bad as some of our absent friends. I found him a nice person when we met. He has even forgot about the pint that I owe him.
The Blur Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I certainly can't be bothered to trawl through all Matt's posts, but if you want to prove your assertion, perhaps you'd like to. Show me an example of Matt's compassion before you accuse me of exaggeration. Easy Depends what you describe as compassion, I'd move heaven and earth to try and get someone earning who wanted too, I double that effort if they were disabled and wanted too. I don't and never have believed throwing money at people equals compassion for them. Just makes him look a bit childish, I don't believe in God either but I wouldn't refuse to sing a hymn at a funeral or something, does he really think whenever a French blokes sings the anthem they are really about to go out and start slashing the throats of people. He is actually there as the representative of the opposition being the leader, not in a personal capacity. He should just grow up and sing the anthem, he's already taken an oath to the Queen to serve in parliament. Looking forward to November, anyone seen Michael Foot's donkey jacket? On a serious note, I can't be bothered to scrawl through MattP's previous posts too. You are still missing my point, I clearly said he was sympathetic towards disabled people specifically not on the whole. If you still do not get it after this then I give up.
Buce Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I don't think Matt is as bad as some of our absent friends. I found him a nice person when we met. He has even forgot about the pint that I owe him. I'm not having a go at Matt - if we steered clear of politics, I'd happily have a chat and a spliff with him - but I cannot accept him as an example of compassionate conservatism.
Buce Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Easy On a serious note, I can't be bothered to scrawl through MattP's previous posts too. You are still missing my point, I clearly said he was sympathetic towards disabled people specifically not on the whole. If you still do not get it after this then I give up. Fair enough. We clearly have a different understanding of what 'compassion' means.
Jon the Hat Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 He could always, you know, buy his own sofa. Picturing the look on my boss' face when I put a sofa on expenses because "I can't sit on the floor, can I"? If your boss expected you to work at the other end of the country all week I should think he would expect you to need something to sit on.
Guest MattP Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I'm not having a go at Matt - if we steered clear of politics, I'd happily have a chat and a spliff with him - but I cannot accept him as an example of compassionate conservatism. A spliff? I'm 32 years old, not 14. Almost feel sorry for Corbyn watching these papers reviews, he's being panned from all sides, he really does need to smarten himself up, he'll destroy his party if he spends the next five years behaving like a scruffy teenager with a chip on his shoulder about everything. Starting to wonder why he even wanted to do this job.
Vacamion Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Corbo should have looked sheepish and mumbled the anthem badly, Redwood style...
Captain... Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Hopefully at some point we will get to politics and not TV appearances, anthem singing or sandwich indulgence. I do despair at the way we can get so distracted by trivial nonsense at the expense of actually understanding why Corbyn was elected and what it represents.
Jimothy Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Hopefully at some point we will get to politics and not TV appearances, anthem singing or sandwich indulgence. I do despair at the way we can get so distracted by trivial nonsense at the expense of actually understanding why Corbyn was elected and what it represents. I'm with you on the anthem singing and sandwiches, but the TV appearances are an important tool for him to use to discuss his politics, and you be questioned on how he feels he can improve the country, and thus try to win votes. He shouldn't be shirking them. Pulling out of The Andrew Marr Show on day one of your new job as opposition leader isn't trivial.
Benji Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 A spliff? I'm 32 years old, not 14. Almost feel sorry for Corbyn watching these papers reviews, he's being panned from all sides, he really does need to smarten himself up, he'll destroy his party if he spends the next five years behaving like a scruffy teenager with a chip on his shoulder about everything. Starting to wonder why he even wanted to do this job. Pretty sure he didn't. He's fallen into it on a wave of what he represents. I'm sure he'd love someone to be his face.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Can't believe people are genuinely vexed because he didn't sing the national anthem
Rincewind Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I don't sing the anthem either. One I am an atheist and two she does not sing god save the pleb. I neither respect or disrespect the Queen but I would be hypocritical if I sang it in public. I have no problem with others singing it.
Rincewind Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Hopefully at some point we will get to politics and not TV appearances, anthem singing or sandwich indulgence. I do despair at the way we can get so distracted by trivial nonsense at the expense of actually understanding why Corbyn was elected and what it represents. Exactly. The rally thing may have been arranged months before and he was expected to be there by many who supported him during the election campaign. He would have let them down by appearing on a show which can easily be re-arranged.
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