Migrants - What's the answer?

[Merging Cultures]

No country wants to be be turned into a temporary refugee camp with millions of people being waiting to be settled somewhere 

 

Of course not, so then perhaps they will step up and help improve stability in their region.

 

Plus they are already going across the borders. So, ensuring that the camps are in place, and processing is quick (a quota based system would help this), would allow refugees to be resettled quickly.

 

In the case of Syria, it is pretty easy to approve someone as a refugee, so it is likely they wouldn't be at a camp long, and having proper ways for transporting the refugees would mean they would be less inclined to try and travel themselves.

[johnny the fox]

No country wants to be be turned into a temporary refugee camp with millions of people being waiting to be settled somewhere 

There are also public health issues, fook knows what some of these poor people are carrying, they are mixed with immigrants from africa and from all over the place. 

conscience soothing knee jerk stuff ain't the answer.

[Guest]

I'm not 100% sure but I'd imagine the thought process is;

stand up to Isis, certain and probably incredibly torturous death for me and everyone I've ever met.

or

try and get to a nicer country, small chance of upsetting circumstances panning out, also chance of happier and more comfortable life for everyone I know.

you choose.

 

Sorry I didn't catch your answer?

 

What do you think should be done?

 

Just heard another possibility that people be taken directly from camps on the syrian border to England, Sweden, Germany. 

[Merging Cultures]

There are also public health issues, fook knows what some of these poor people are carrying, they are mixed with immigrants from africa and from all over the place.

conscience soothing knee jerk stuff ain't the answer.

Yeah, we are riddled with disease over here in Africa! Wtf?!

[Guest]

Which should mean crossing the border into the nearest country. You don't then need to keep going, stop where you are and get processed properly.

 

Anyone who goes over more than one country or gets on a boat and pitches up elsewhere should be immediately sent back to a processing center at a country bordering their home country. 

 

Receiving countries should agree with the UN how many refugees they will take, and then people are resettled based on that.

 

This doesn't seem an oversimplification to me.

 

This seems the best response to me too, So how do we deal with those Migrants who do not follow this idea and continue to try to cross borders to get to a country of their own choice?

[Freesolo]

Why is Germany taking in 800k refuges? They are not doing it out of the kindness of their heart that is for certain, what are they getting out of it?

[ChrisFilter]

Just admit it was wrong.

It's not. You posting one graph doesn't disprove my point. Do you really think Merkel would welcome that many migrants without some economic pay-off?

[Rincewind]

Germany are getting first pick.

[ScouseFox]

Sorry I didn't catch your answer?

What do you think should be done?

Just heard another possibility that people be taken directly from camps on the syrian border to England, Sweden, Germany.

dunno, that was my point, nobody knows

[Guest]

It's a refugee crisis. Not a migrant crisis. And we should welcome genuine asylum seekers with open arms. Even if you're right-wing, there's economic benefit to it hence Germany welcoming 750k and counting - they're not stupid.

I wish it were.

 

But it's not it's both a refugee crisis and a migrant crisis.

 

The syrians and Iraqis in Hungary (Estonia, Poland etc...) could ask to stay there but they aren't they are trying to cross the country and get to Germany. That is a migrant crisis. The Africans at Calais could have stayed in Italy or Spain or Greece but they haven't , they haven't even stayed by choice in France they want to get to the UK - that is a Migrant problem.

 

I'm not right wing and I see the benefits of immigration to our countries but we have a Migrant problem and closing your eyes to it won't solve it.

[EnderbyFox]

 

 

Why does Sweden take 17x more than us?

[Merging Cultures]

This seems the best response to me too, So how do we deal with those Migrants who do not follow this idea and continue to try to cross borders to get to a country of their own choice?

Send them back or camps in the UK.

If camps are OK internationally, they are OK in the UK.

In the meantime, mass media communication that camps are the best place to go to get processed and be allocated to a country. And explaining that people are dying en route to the UK.

This can easily be done in the border countries.

[Guest]

The US should be taking part of the responsibility for this problem and taking in X amount of refuges since the seem to think they can cause every problem in the world and just walk away from it like it didn't happen. 

But its a election year so Non of the runners will touch, but Obama should be doing something to help

Saw some US official with an Irish accent saying that the europeans should be taking these people in. seemed a little wrong to me. They aren't Europeans so the US could take them just as easily and let's face it Alaska is a big empty state. 

[Carl the Llama]

Of course not, so then perhaps they will step up and help improve stability in their region.

 

Plus they are already going across the borders. So, ensuring that the camps are in place, and processing is quick (a quota based system would help this), would allow refugees to be resettled quickly.

 

In the case of Syria, it is pretty easy to approve someone as a refugee, so it is likely they wouldn't be at a camp long, and having proper ways for transporting the refugees would mean they would be less inclined to try and travel themselves.

Ideally all countries should pay jointly for these camps too, that would make the receiving countries less resistant to committing time and resources to a project like this.

[Guest]

USA has taken in something like 120 thousand refugees in the last year. We have taken in something like 30 thousand.

 

We should be doing more for genuine refugees

The US is much bigger, much richer, much more to blame and has much more space. 4 times the amount doesn't seem much to me.

The only problem with this is that if the refuges/asylum seekers? are all coming through the same route then they will all end up having to register in the same country

 

And then be dispatched to other countries depending on quotas.

[Freesolo]

Yeah, we are riddled with disease over here in Africa! Wtf?!

Would you agree that Africa has a higher rate of preventable diseases and a much lower average human lifespan than Europe?

[Guest]

No country wants to be be turned into a temporary refugee camp with millions of people being waiting to be settled somewhere 

So your answer is?

 

Surely it's not to let the traffickers get them through these countries and into other countries - which is what is happening now.

[stripeyfox]

I don't know, I really don't know.

Strikes me as governments are doing their best to avoid the problem.

The sight of the poor child lying face down on the beach with the waves lapping up against him is just too much.

I suppose the more who are "welcomed", the more that will come until something is done about ISIS. But governments haven't got the stomach to do anything about that on the back of two length, costly wars in the region in the last decade or so.

[Freesolo]

 

 

Why does Sweden take 17x more than us?

They have a policy if you arrive there you are accepted, its a very liberal country but swedish people are starting to see it getting out of control and right wing parties are becoming more popular

[Guest]

Would you not do the same if you where in their shoes?

Maybe he would but you seem to be shooting down anyone else's opinion without giving your alternative.

 

What do you suggest?

[Freesolo]

So your answer is?

 

Surely it's not to let the traffickers get them through these countries and into other countries - which is what is happening now.

Stop them getting on the boats, keep them in africa for now in a refugee camp

[Guest]

Of course not, so then perhaps they will step up and help improve stability in their region.

 

Plus they are already going across the borders. So, ensuring that the camps are in place, and processing is quick (a quota based system would help this), would allow refugees to be resettled quickly.

 

In the case of Syria, it is pretty easy to approve someone as a refugee, so it is likely they wouldn't be at a camp long, and having proper ways for transporting the refugees would mean they would be less inclined to try and travel themselves.

Find myself agreeing with your every post.

 

Merging Cultures for European immigration coordinator

[Guest]

Why is Germany taking in 800k refuges? They are not doing it out of the kindness of their heart that is for certain, what are they getting out of it?

Some say it is to do with holding Europe together and blackmailing the UK and others into taking more .

It's not. You posting one graph doesn't disprove my point. Do you really think Merkel would welcome that many migrants without some economic pay-off?

 

Or as a power play.

dunno, that was my point, nobody knows

 

And so what would you do?

[Freesolo]

Some say it is to do with holding Europe together and blackmailing the UK and others into taking more .

 

Or as a power play.

 

And so what would you do?

Could she pick though the refuges to get the first 800k males and females with usable skills needed in Germany, children would take up a big part of that number too

[Guest]

Stop them getting on the boats, keep them in africa for now in a refugee camp

 

Well it's a suggestion.

 

How would you stop them getting on boats and keep them in Africa?