Guest Posted 2 December 2015 Posted 2 December 2015 I did and I know the story. Just the name kind of tickled me, and you've been supplying us with some pretty 'out there' sources recently. Thrac is "out there".
Rincewind Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153376794326939/ I may have posted this in the wrong thread.
Thracian Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 http://en.alalam.ir/news/1768053 Seems like the Russians are determined to make Erdogan pay dearly for downing their bomber. Being increasingly surrounded by high-grade Russian weaponry won't help either. What a tinder box it's all becoming. All Erdogan's strategy seems to be about creating a Sunni caliphate centred on Turkey but with no fixed borders as the Iraqi's already seem to understand. http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940921000442
Unabomber Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 imagine if a turkey shot down a military jet.
Webbo Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 imagine if a turkey shot down a military jet. They'd be stuffed.
Unabomber Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 They'd be stuffed. Few more of them and I might stick around
bovril Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 They'd be stuffed. Brussels will dangle the financial carrot in front of them and they'll (maris) pipe( r) down.
Webbo Posted 11 December 2015 Posted 11 December 2015 Brussels will dangle the financial carrot in front of them and they'll (maris) pipe( r) down. Yule log on to your computer and we'll be in a pickle.
Thracian Posted 12 December 2015 Posted 12 December 2015 Erdogan shows his tolerance..... http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-launches-arrest-swoop-allies-erdogan-foe-114031277.html
Thracian Posted 13 December 2015 Posted 13 December 2015 Anyone wanting an insight into the aims of Erdogan and his friends (and the consequent risks) needs to read this. Turkish troops are in Iraq with NATO having already declared their presence unlawful. But Turkey is part of NATO yet anyone believing Erdogan is in any way an ally of the West needs to think again. All along I have said that the UK, the US and the EU should be engaging with Russia and China on the issue of IS and the machinations of all the uprisings from Iraq and Syria through to Yemen, Libya and Nigeria....and the sooner the better. Putin's not the bogeyman ....but this sure offers food for thought. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-12/isis-simply-saudi-army-disguise? And anyone doubting what the supporters and sponsors of IS terrorism are enabling should perhaps dwell on this. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-booby-trapped-mass-grave-6923661. There are many more examples.
BeerMe Posted 14 December 2015 Posted 14 December 2015 I've had to do a lot of flying around Turkey, they're not the most honest controllers when it comes to their airspace boundaries. Not that I am justifying anything the Russians do, but I kind of am.
Thracian Posted 15 December 2015 Posted 15 December 2015 How's this for brotherhood, with a capital letter or otherwise! http://in.reuters.com/article/saudi-security-idINKBN0TX2KY20151215 Obama seems to like it. And maybe that's what makes me distinctly uneasy. The recording below, made several years ago, is tedious in it's American way, but refers to Obama as being a Sunni Muslim with very much his own agenda. Yet so much seems to tie in with the machinations of the current situation, including reforming of the Turkish (once Ottoman) caliphate mentioned and the fact that the newly-formed 34-nation "anti-terrorist" group is declaredly free to respond to anyone it views as a terrorist organisation or threat. That doesn't auger well for all sorts of groups and peoples emitting, as it does, a classically catch-all ring as this quote emphasises in referring to: . "A duty to protect the Islamic nation (no-one else, and note reference to one all-encompassing nation or caliphate which knows and accepts no national boundaries) from the evils of all terrorist groups and organizations, whatever their sect and name, which wreak death and corruption on earth (how is corruption defined?) and aim to terrorize the innocent...." A seemingly excellent ideal but how loosely might that be interpreted in the wrong hands or if necessary to achieve an end? . It's almost an Erdoganism on its own but it seems this agreement entirely emphasises the Turkish leader's agenda as being very much the one supposedly allegedly and reportedly linked to Obama in the recording at the top of this comment.. Anyway form your own opinion if you're interested but it should give you all further insight into the evolution of Sunni-led Islam. Because in times to come - this might be an extremely innocent-sounding but far-reaching agreement which could impact on the whole world....for better or worse - depending on your outlook and allegiances. http://in.reuters.com/article/saudi-security-idINKBN0TX2KY20151215
Thracian Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 Given the first link, if someone can explain the logic of the second, perhaps they'll explain. On the one hand: http://www.iraqinews.com/baghdad-politics/al-hashd-al-shabi-finds-a-mobile-phone-uncovering-turkish-intelligence-support-of-isis/ On the other: https://www.rt.com/uk/213139-turkey-eu-cameron-membership/
Thracian Posted 22 December 2015 Posted 22 December 2015 http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151215/1031775940/turkey-erdogan-secret-documents-crimes-impeachment.html http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151221/1032094441/obama-putin-syria-presidential-elections.html Seems to me it's high time the world knew if Obama is supporting secular, democratic "Arab Dawn" government or a Sunni-dominated caliphate which might better fit in with his background. http://sputniknews.com/science/20151222/1032171416/anonymous-daesh-cyberwar.html Meanwhile with a million refugees having already arrived in Europe the potential folly of it all is spelt out by the Germans... http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151222/1032168014/danger-german-police-id-numbers-daesh.html
Thracian Posted 24 December 2015 Posted 24 December 2015 This is what happens when fundamentalists have licence to oppose your culture. http://www.theweek.co.uk/68136/christmas-banned-in-brunei-somalia-and-tajikistan? Tolerance?: It's clearly a one way expectation from some people and it's high time we stopped ourselves - and our cultural friends -being exploited for it.
Carl the Llama Posted 25 December 2015 Posted 25 December 2015 I'm not sure you can rely on the editorial stance of a Russia-centric news agency which appears to have no problem with the whole Crimea annexation business, Thrac.
Thracian Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I'm not sure you can rely on the editorial stance of a Russia-centric news agency which appears to have no problem with the whole Crimea annexation business, Thrac. The same sort of analysis is being forwarded from all sorts of sources. It's just been convenient to pick the links I've used rather than a source I've specially looked out for. Besides, I don't kid myself people will change their views however compelling the argument - about this subject, about politics or about anything else really. I've already commented on Russia's actions, not so much in The Crimea but in Ukraine and believe as much is down to the expansionist ambitions of Europe - backed by the US - as anything else. It seems Obama and friends are determined to keep pressurising Putin and I'm not at all sure it's a sensible policy.
Thracian Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 The same sort of analysis is being forwarded from all sorts of sources. It's just been convenient to pick the links I've used rather than a source I've specially looked out for. Besides, I don't kid myself people will change their views however compelling the argument - about this subject, about politics or about anything else really. I've already commented on Russia's actions, not so much in The Crimea but in Ukraine and believe as much is down to the expansionist ambitions of Europe - backed by the US - as anything else. It seems Obama and friends are determined to keep pressurising Putin and I'm not at all sure it's a sensible policy. In fact, the way I view things, it's blinkered to the point of blinding.
Thracian Posted 11 January 2016 Posted 11 January 2016 Erdogan "tolerance" continued: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/01/turkish-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan-hitlers-germany-example-effective-government
Strokes Posted 11 January 2016 Posted 11 January 2016 Someone help thrac out he is going stir crazy in here on his own. ARE YOU OK THRAC?!?
Buce Posted 11 January 2016 Posted 11 January 2016 Someone help thrac out he is going stir crazy in here on his own. ARE YOU OK THRAC?!?
bovril Posted 11 January 2016 Posted 11 January 2016 This is the Gen Chat version of the St Etienne thread.
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