Guest Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Because it's seen as a minor thing, just like every man and his dog on here using kodi to watch illegal streams. They will focus on the people organising these things on a large scale, rather than the man on the street... unless you're very unlucky. The fact the club are banning people should deter people anyway, unless you're selling to someone you know. It's a big risk to take for the sake of a few quid, you wouldn't want to miss games next year. True, just weird how you don't see it at other clubs. Personally wouldn't sell a ticket and i'm all for changes in rules, but it won't ever happen and touts will still make millions and they then just punish the average man who maybe wants to capitalise on the success of the club and get a bit of money they would never dream of having normally.
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Like many here, went to the match Saturday and saw the banner in the kop end " touts out " how pathetic!. For a start the original tout were people who bought tickets for an event where, clearly was of great interest, demand was far greater than supply with the sole purpose of making a fortune out of fans, or maybe celebrities with money who just had to be there because it was the place to be that day. The tout gained these tickets and made an absolute fortune. Has anyone ever really known touts to go into the event? So the banner was pointless. Aimed at the season ticket holders within the stadium. This notion of some people and the makers of the banner is it's " their club " is simply self righteous and factually not true unless Top and family are viewing from the kop or subscribing to foxestalk forums. If it's anyone's club, it's theirs. So if we say some people are selling their season ticket for a match is wrong, against the law and unethical, how do we react to the speculation that the owners may be being investigated for buying a business for a day for the use of questionable financial reasons? It's total hypocrisy. They are being accused of buying a business to offload money one way or another. To my knowledge unlawful. How many on here have opened duplicate gaming accounts online to attempt to have a no lose situation with bets something that comes under the money laundering rules. Dishonest and unethical. I can imagine there are a multitude of things that go on in life that are considered by non doers to be acts of crime that we should be ashamed of. But don't come on banging on about. Simply people bought a season ticket at the start of the season without a clue what was to unfold and have now seen an opportunity to sacrifice their chance of being there on the day for money. As said before by a poster, who knows what that persons personal situation is? A transplant or money someone is willing pay for a match? No brainer! Everything has a price! However bizarre. Has all these self righteous posters got that much wealth that they can't imagine what their reaction would be if someone knocked at their door with 15 large in a carrier bag and asked for there season ticket for the day?
MC Prussian Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 ktfox, I can but assume that you're either directly affected by the club's measures with regards to ticket touting or you know somebody who is. I appreciate your affection and your lengthy reply, but in the context of this thread and given the circumstances, touting is illegal and unlawful and anyone daft enough to commit this particular offense and getting caught for it has no one else to blame but themselves. You may criticize the banner, but fail to acknowledge that it was shown on TV and had an impact, and that worldwide. The rest of your post, sadly, is mainly hypothetical ramblings to which there are no definite answers.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 here I was thinking touts out was aimed for the millions and millions of people watching around the world, how wrong was I! You should get in touch with Thrac on here, you have a lot in common.
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 here I was thinking touts out was aimed for the millions and millions of people watching around the world, how wrong was I! You should get in touch with Thrac on here, you have a lot in common. although i don't watch it back on TV. As went to the match live with my hard earned season ticket and saw it. So didn't see the banner on TV.. But maybe the point could have been made just as effectively outside the stadium where, to my knowledge is where you are more likely to find a tout operating. As those tout would see and not dare to attend for fear of arrest etc. I see with interest that neither of the two following posts didn't address the point of private dilemma of ticket for the day or saving of life perhaps? What's more important in your lives? Grow up and be honest. In normal circumstances it would be pointless to sell one, there are times in life when something you have becomes so valuable that you question what's worth more. And just to clear it up for you both, I'm neither affected nor know someone who is. I'm not afraid to mention the pathetic sting attempt as no one ever bothered to ask me the reason why I may not be there. Were just patronising and self judgmental from the start. I got hump on and decided to play along. Got the hump that I should pay £400 for my st at start of season and I should be expected out of hand to sell it to anyone that couldn't be arsed to get one then but wanted to jump on band wagon come the biggest day of our history. I may not go even now for whatever personal reason that is to me, thanks for asking, but you can be sure it won't to be here. Oh before you ask. My family all have season tickets.
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 here I was thinking touts out was aimed for the millions and millions of people watching around the world, how wrong was I! You should get in touch with Thrac on here, you have a lot in common. although i don't watch it back on TV. As went to the match live with my hard earned season ticket and saw it. So didn't see the banner on TV.. But maybe the point could have been made just as effectively outside the stadium where, to my knowledge is where you are more likely to find a tout operating. As those tout would see and not dare to attend for fear of arrest etc. I see with interest that neither of the two following posts didn't address the point of private dilemma of ticket for the day or saving of life perhaps? What's more important in your lives? Grow up and be honest. In normal circumstances it would be pointless to sell one, there are times in life when something you have becomes so valuable that you question what's worth more. And just to clear it up for you both, I'm neither affected nor know someone who is. I'm not afraid to mention the pathetic sting attempt as no one ever bothered to ask me the reason why I may not be there. Were just patronising and self judgmental from the start. I got hump on and decided to play along. Got the hump that I should pay £400 for my st at start of season and I should be expected out of hand to sell it to anyone that couldn't be arsed to get one then but wanted to jump on band wagon come the biggest day of our history. I may not go even now for whatever personal reason that is to me, thanks for asking, but you can be sure it won't to be here. Oh before you ask. My family all have season tickets.
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 One last point, the banner was there to attract attention world wild on the problems of touting in football. Consider next week to do one that says" don't cheat at football" think how you will change the world!
ramboacdc Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 so this means some season tickets will hit gold member renewal? *rushes to bank*
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Who played on Saturday ktfox?not us for sure. Why? Where's your point here. Have I said Saturday somewhere?
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Like many here, went to the match Saturday and saw the banner in the kop end " touts out " how pathetic!. For a start the original tout were people who bought tickets for an event where, clearly was of great interest, demand was far greater than supply with the sole purpose of making a fortune out of fans, or maybe celebrities with money who just had to be there because it was the place to be that day. The tout gained these tickets and made an absolute fortune. Has anyone ever really known touts to go into the event? So the banner was pointless. Aimed at the season ticket holders within the stadium. This notion of some people and the makers of the banner is it's " their club " is simply self righteous and factually not true unless Top and family are viewing from the kop or subscribing to foxestalk forums. If it's anyone's club, it's theirs. So if we say some people are selling their season ticket for a match is wrong, against the law and unethical, how do we react to the speculation that the owners may be being investigated for buying a business for a day for the use of questionable financial reasons? It's total hypocrisy. They are being accused of buying a business to offload money one way or another. To my knowledge unlawful. How many on here have opened duplicate gaming accounts online to attempt to have a no lose situation with bets something that comes under the money laundering rules. Dishonest and unethical. I can imagine there are a multitude of things that go on in life that are considered by non doers to be acts of crime that we should be ashamed of. But don't come on banging on about. Simply people bought a season ticket at the start of the season without a clue what was to unfold and have now seen an opportunity to sacrifice their chance of being there on the day for money. As said before by a poster, who knows what that persons personal situation is? A transplant or money someone is willing pay for a match? No brainer! Everything has a price! However bizarre. Has all these self righteous posters got that much wealth that they can't imagine what their reaction would be if someone knocked at their door with 15 large in a carrier bag and asked for there season ticket for the day? Looking forward to seeing your "TOUTS IN!" banner on Sunday.
kingcarr21 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Like many here, went to the match Saturday and saw the banner in the kop end " touts out " how pathetic!. For a start the original tout were people who bought tickets for an event where, clearly was of great interest, demand was far greater than supply with the sole purpose of making a fortune out of fans, or maybe celebrities with money who just had to be there because it was the place to be that day. The tout gained these tickets and made an absolute fortune. Has anyone ever really known touts to go into the event? So the banner was pointless. Aimed at the season ticket holders within the stadium. This notion of some people and the makers of the banner is it's " their club " is simply self righteous and factually not true unless Top and family are viewing from the kop or subscribing to foxestalk forums. If it's anyone's club, it's theirs. So if we say some people are selling their season ticket for a match is wrong, against the law and unethical, how do we react to the speculation that the owners may be being investigated for buying a business for a day for the use of questionable financial reasons? It's total hypocrisy. They are being accused of buying a business to offload money one way or another. To my knowledge unlawful. How many on here have opened duplicate gaming accounts online to attempt to have a no lose situation with bets something that comes under the money laundering rules. Dishonest and unethical. I can imagine there are a multitude of things that go on in life that are considered by non doers to be acts of crime that we should be ashamed of. But don't come on banging on about. Simply people bought a season ticket at the start of the season without a clue what was to unfold and have now seen an opportunity to sacrifice their chance of being there on the day for money. As said before by a poster, who knows what that persons personal situation is? A transplant or money someone is willing pay for a match? No brainer! Everything has a price! However bizarre. Has all these self righteous posters got that much wealth that they can't imagine what their reaction would be if someone knocked at their door with 15 large in a carrier bag and asked for there season ticket for the day? not us for sure. Why? Where's your point here. Have I said Saturday somewhere?
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 so this means some season tickets will hit gold member renewal? *rushes to bank* i haven't a clue about season ticket pricing policy, but should imagine that they will rise substantially. Existing st holders will be fine, esp dd ones as I had the foresight to be. Apparently there is a waiting list now so there will be many disappointed " fans " of the club, you know the ones, listen to stringer piss you off on league one instead of paying to support "their club" in a bad period. Am sure there will be many rushing to their bank or queuing 8 hoes a day yes.
ramboacdc Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 i haven't a clue about season ticket pricing policy, but should imagine that they will rise substantially. Existing st holders will be fine, esp dd ones as I had the foresight to be. Apparently there is a waiting list now so there will be many disappointed " fans " of the club, you know the ones, listen to stringer piss you off on league one instead of paying to support "their club" in a bad period. Am sure there will be many rushing to their bank or queuing 8 hoes a day yes. ST prices will be frozen or reduced after this. mark my words.
GaelicFox Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Marc Bolan is dead,so how could you encounter T Rex on the way to the ground? Showaddywaddy maybe............. They live in the wetherspoons in harborough
GaelicFox Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 i haven't a clue about season ticket pricing policy, but should imagine that they will rise substantially. Existing st holders will be fine, esp dd ones as I had the foresight to be. Apparently there is a waiting list now so there will be many disappointed " fans " of the club, you know the ones, listen to stringer piss you off on league one instead of paying to support "their club" in a bad period. Am sure there will be many rushing to their bank or queuing 8 hoes a day yes. "8 hoes a day" Jesus man you must be chomping on viagra Are they Eastern European girls
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Like many here, went to the match Saturday and saw the banner in the kop end " touts out " how pathetic!. Interesting choice to try and defend the indefensible. Given the ticket story hit the press and the banner was shown on TV, fancy reversing your comments to those who chose to display it? You mention not knowing the people in questions motivation, but without any evidence forthcoming, we have to assume the main motive was financial gain - and the idea of gaining so much over the odds from people who share the same passion as the ticket holders supposedly have is more than a bit off in my mind. Additionally, defending one incorrect action by pointing at another one elsewhere isn't the strongest of arguments, especially when you're arguing with people that had no direct impact on the example you've chosen.
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 Looking forward to seeing your "TOUTS IN!" banner on Sunday.you know what? You are so thick as you can't see I'm actually actually debating this from an objective viewpoint. Where have I said I agree with this or that? That's yours and the other keyboard warrior bullies assumption. Because you have some agenda one way. People pick out points they want to like Saturday instead of Sunday. Is that important? Have I once said I agree with ticket touts? Actually called for banners outside the stadium where they are more likely to see them and feel ashamed. You see what you want to see mate, my points from the start are balanced. Inviting people in their own mind to consider at what point in their life would money over a ticket be important. Say for example taking the wife out for a meal and evenening meal for £100 or ticket? Taking your kid out for a special day buying a present, the examples are endless. But nooooo I would never ever consider? Ha ha. Se of you want to have a word with your seces
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 you know what? You are so thick as you can't see I'm actually actually debating this from an objective viewpoint. Where have I said I agree with this or that? That's yours and the other keyboard warrior bullies assumption. Because you have some agenda one way. People pick out points they want to like Saturday instead of Sunday. Is that important? Have I once said I agree with ticket touts? Actually called for banners outside the stadium where they are more likely to see them and feel ashamed. You see what you want to see mate, my points from the start are balanced. Inviting people in their own mind to consider at what point in their life would money over a ticket be important. Say for example taking the wife out for a meal and evenening meal for £100 or ticket? Taking your kid out for a special day buying a present, the examples are endless. But nooooo I would never ever consider? Ha ha. Se of you want to have a word with your seces You're taking on pretty much the whole forum you thick ****. Edit; I just managed to battle my way through your entire post, I think you're a bit deranged mate so I'm going to put you on my ignore list.
MC Prussian Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 you know what? You are so thick as you can't see I'm actually actually debating this from an objective viewpoint. Where have I said I agree with this or that? That's yours and the other keyboard warrior bullies assumption. Because you have some agenda one way. People pick out points they want to like Saturday instead of Sunday. Is that important? Have I once said I agree with ticket touts? Actually called for banners outside the stadium where they are more likely to see them and feel ashamed. You see what you want to see mate, my points from the start are balanced. Inviting people in their own mind to consider at what point in their life would money over a ticket be important. Say for example taking the wife out for a meal and evenening meal for £100 or ticket? Taking your kid out for a special day buying a present, the examples are endless. But nooooo I would never ever consider? Ha ha. Se of you want to have a word with your seces Calling for banners outside the stadium aimed against ticket touts will surely keep the touts away or have them at least feel ashamed. Genius idea. Touts don't have to be at the stadium in order to operate. I assume you know what the internet is. The banner's had a terrific impact, so terrific that it has prompted a reaction from you. The choice remains, the scenario is still intact. You sell your season ticket (or fractions of it based on individual games) to somebody else, you commit an offense punishable by club regulations and/or law. How often have you given your ST away in exchange for small "services" in the past, I wonder? A meal here, a present to the kids or £100 there... Just in small increments, so that it doesn't become too obvious... Of course, I can then see why you'd want to defend people who in the extreme circumstance were presented with a comparatively astronomical sum of £15'000 or thereabouts. Greed is a terrible thing.
Voll Blau Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 you know what? You are so thick as you can't see I'm actually actually debating this from an objective viewpoint. Where have I said I agree with this or that? That's yours and the other keyboard warrior bullies assumption. Because you have some agenda one way. People pick out points they want to like Saturday instead of Sunday. Is that important? Have I once said I agree with ticket touts? Actually called for banners outside the stadium where they are more likely to see them and feel ashamed. You see what you want to see mate, my points from the start are balanced. Inviting people in their own mind to consider at what point in their life would money over a ticket be important. Say for example taking the wife out for a meal and evenening meal for £100 or ticket? Taking your kid out for a special day buying a present, the examples are endless. But nooooo I would never ever consider? Ha ha. Se of you want to have a word with your seces If all that is so important to you why would you spend hundreds of quid, plus regular money on travel etc, to get a season ticket in the first place? Describing the banner as "pathetic" in your opening salvo hardly screams "balanced" either if I'm honest...
ktfox59 Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 "8 hoes a day" Jesus man you must be chomping on viagra Are they Eastern European girls man you and others are just so ridiculous. And as you are still the thick one trying to pick up on a typo to a perfectly good post just shows your level of intellect. If you've something worthwhile to add, contribute. If not go and poss someone else of.
MC Prussian Posted 18 April 2016 Posted 18 April 2016 man you and others are just so ridiculous. And as you are still the thick one trying to pick up on a typo to a perfectly good post just shows your level of intellect. If you've something worthwhile to add, contribute. If not go and poss someone else of. For somebody who wants to give a "balanced" view, you're derailing rather quickly with your choice of lingo.
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