Release clause

[Guest]

please forgive my ignorance.

 

With a release clause such as Kanté is supposed to have,does the triggering of the clause simply allow a team to talk to said player?

 

Kanté will clearly have a lot of suitors but does the release clause mean he is sold for £25m to whoever he agrees with or does it mean that Leicester can still choose where he goes and at what price?

 

If Arse are willing to pay £50m Can we say no but RM can have him for £55m? or must be sell him for £25m even if someone is willing to pay more?

 

Thanks

[whoareyaaa]

Surely 25m will be the max anyone can offer, then it is down to the player who he wants to talk to surely.

[TiffToff88]

It just means that if anyone offers £25m we have to allow Kante to talk to them. there's no need for them to offer anything above the release clause fee. Although there may be conditions, such as with Vardy's release fee where it only applied to certain teams (In Vardy's case, Champions League teams)

 

For Example:

 

Chelsea offer £25m

 

Real Madrid offer £60m (not that they would need to offer more than the £25m)

 

 

we would have to accept both offers as they both meet the release clause, regardless of weather we want him to join Chelsea or not

[AKCJ]

1) Someone triggers clause.

2) Club accepts offer.

3) Player allowed to discuss with clause triggererer.

4) Player decides whether he fancies it or not.

 

 

 

All in all, a release clause just allows those that meet the figure to talk to a player while he's under contract.

[Guest]

So if he wants to play for RM we can only get £25m even if Arse or Chelsea offer more to get him?

 

The only way they get him is by offering him more in his contract and we get ****ed.

[Joe the Fox]

£25m will be the minimum we get if he does have that as a release clause.

 

 

If a club meets that release clause he can go for £25m to that club, another club can bid more though.

 

If there is competition there can still be a bidding war, it just means that Leicester can't outright refuse to accept bids.

[Bayfox]

So if he wants to play for RM we can only get £25m even if Arse or Chelsea offer more to get him?

 

The only way they get him is by offering him more in his contract and we get ****ed.

 

Basically, yes, taking your example, Chelsea could offer 65 million and obviously we would then try to push him to joining them as it helps us cash wise, but anyone who meets the 25 million has the right to talk to him, in which case it's unlikely anyone would offer more.

[Guest]

But he'll prefer one over the others so surely the one he wants only has to pay the minimum.

 

If the above is true then it surely makes more sense to offer Kanté £150k a week as that's only 7.5m a year for a 5 year contract and increase any clause to 100m.

[Bayfox]

But he'll prefer one over the others so surely the one he wants only has to pay the minimum.

 

If the above is true then it surely makes more sense to offer Kanté £150k a week as that's only 7.5m a year for a 5 year contract and increase any clause to 100m.

 

I thought the rumours were that Kante wants to see out one more season with us but is unlikely to sign a new deal as he knows it will put potential suitors of next summer, or we will want a massive release clause. So he is happy to take a hit on wages for 1 season if it means he can get mega money in 12 months.

[Guest]

I thought the rumours were that Kante wants to see out one more season with us but is unlikely to sign a new deal as he knows it will put potential suitors of next summer, or we will want a massive release clause. So he is happy to take a hit on wages for 1 season if it means he can get mega money in 12 months.

 

When I see Zidane says he wants RM to get him, I give up all hope of his wonderful altruism (well almost.)

[Fox92]

I'm under the impression these release clauses are for Champions League clubs only?

[stix]

If any club hits the £25m release clause then we have to allow them to talk to him.

It's then down to the buying club to offer Kanté the best personal terms, signing on fees, weekly wages & bonuses etc.

The idea of the release clause from a player(agents) point of view is that if they can keep the price down then there will be more money on offer/ available for themselves.

[stix]

£25m will be the minimum we get if he does have that as a release clause.

If a club meets that release clause he can go for £25m to that club, another club can bid more though.

If there is competition there can still be a bidding war, it just means that Leicester can't outright refuse to accept bids.

No that's not how it works.

[Guest seanfox778]

It would make no sense for another club to bid more. Once they've met the release clause. The clubs wanting to buy him will do battle and just offer him higher wages to get him. We're the big losers in this.

Release clause are s***!

[Merging Cultures]

I thought that it had been said it is a 'Trigger Clause' not a 'Release Clause' (see the Mendy and Kante threads in the transfer forum, there is a link to an article in there somewhere, I can't be bothered to dig through).

With the trigger clause meaning they can talk to him, but we don't have to accept the bid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3645447/Leicester-make-revised-9-5m-bid-midfielder-Nampalys-Mendy-fear-offers-N-Golo-Kante-Euro-2016.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Kante has a trigger clause of £20million which allows clubs to talk to him though the figure is not his release fee.

[BruinFox]

We could always adopt Liverpool's stance on Suarez: 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/mar/02/liverpool-john-henry-luis-suarez-clause

[foxes_rule1978]

We could always adopt Liverpool's stance on Suarez:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/mar/02/liverpool-john-henry-luis-suarez-clause

If they could do it then why not...

[WigstonWanderer]

I'm not at all sure that all of the above descriptions of a release clause are correct. Indeed, they can't all be as there appear to be contradictions.

I'm pretty sure if it was a straightforward release clause LCFC would only get whatever the release amount is. Anything above that due to competition between clubs for his signature would go to NG as a signing on fee or as inflated wages.

However the rumour is that this isn't a straightforward release clause. Without knowing the details we can only speculate.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

We need to keep him, by hook or by crook. Kante is the key to our success.

[Bayfox]

I'm not at all sure that all of the above descriptions of a release clause are correct. Indeed, they can't all be as there appear to be contradictions.

I'm pretty sure if it was a straightforward release clause LCFC would only get whatever the release amount is. Anything above that due to competition between clubs for his signature would go to NG as a signing on fee or as inflated wages.

However the rumour is that this isn't a straightforward release clause. Without knowing the details we can only speculate.

Yes you're correct.

Best business practice would suggest if you know the price is 25 million then you offer 25 million. Any thing else would be silly. However we know football can be silly.

So say real offer 25 million but barca want him then they may well offer 35 in the hope it pushes people to lean on him to sign for them.

However if your barca and you're bidding against crystal palace. Then no your gonna still bid 25 and like you say use the extra to blow them out the water wage wise.

[Guest]

Yes you're correct.

Best business practice would suggest if you know the price is 25 million then you offer 25 million. Any thing else would be silly. However we know football can be silly.

So say real offer 25 million but barca want him then they may well offer 35 in the hope it pushes people to lean on him to sign for them.

However if your barca and you're bidding against crystal palace. Then no your gonna still bid 25 and like you say use the extra to blow them out the water wage wise.

 

That wouldn't make sense to me. If Real offer 25m then Barca offer 25m and offer Kanté 100K wages higher than Real. That would make sense. We simply have to offer £50K a week more than them.

[4everfox]

Anything less then 50 million should be rejected as an insult whether he has a release clause or not, whether he wants the move or not. 75 million should be the start point for negotiations.

[Guest]

Anything less then 50 million should be rejected as an insult whether he has a release clause or not, whether he wants the move or not. 75 million should be the start point for negotiations.

 

But not if it's a release clause. The amount is already fixed and we have no option to increase the fee - only increase his wages.

[4everfox]

But not if it's a release clause. The amount is already fixed and we have no option to increase the fee - only increase his wages.

The Liverpool owner John Henry has reportedly admitted that Luis Suárez did have a £40m buyout clause but that the club simply refused to sell the player when Arsenal made their £40m plus one pound offer last summer.

At the time Liverpool were adamant that the Gunners' bid would not trigger the release of their striker, but Henry, speaking at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, appears to have suggested that the Reds simply took a hard line because "apparently these contracts don't seem to hold".

"Luis Suarez is the top scorer in the English Premier League, which is arguably the top soccer league in the world," Henry is reported to have said. "He had a buyout clause of £40m. Arsenal, one of our prime rivals, offered £40m plus £1. What we've found … is that contracts don't seem to mean a lot in England – actually, in world football.

"It doesn't matter how long a player's contract is, he can decide he's leaving. We sold a player, Fernando Torres, for £50m, that we did not want to sell, we were forced to.

"Since apparently these contracts don't seem to hold, we took the position that we're just not selling.

"It's been great for Luis, it's been great for us. We have three gentlemen up front Suárez, [Raheem] Sterling, and [Daniel]Sturridge, [they] are young, I think those three could be together for a long time."

[WigstonWanderer]

That wouldn't make sense to me. If Real offer 25m then Barca offer 25m and offer Kanté 100K wages higher than Real. That would make sense. We simply have to offer £50K a week more than them.

Precisely. If it is a straightforward release clause, it is up to Kante to choose from any club that is willing to pay the release amount. Obviously they will need to compete for his signature, and this would have the effect of driving up his signing on fee and/or wages. City would only get the release fee.

However, we don't know the details of this particular contract, so the rest is just speculation.