MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 3 hours ago, DB11 said: Yeah... but if you've not noticed we're now in the middle of October and the poll was asked on the 1st September Dunno what's so hard to grasp about that tbf Were people allowed more than just one vote? If not, it's not really skewing the stats, is it? Besides, we've pretty much had the same form ever since the first few games of the season, nothing's really changed there tbh.
Fox42 Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 The thing is, we've never known for signing players left right and centre ever since the Sven days, to be honest and it's worked out fairly well for us up until now, which is why at the time I went with the quite well option. We only bought in one player if I remember rightly over the summer we won the championship (and that was Bakayogo) and it more than paid off. This time round, we all had faith with the squad excluding the signings; it's their lacklustre performance that's also showing too which I believe contributes to the poor performances of the new signings. Having said that, more signings with Premier League or European 1st Division experience could've been made.
HighPeakFox Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 I think the problem is that, after last season, nothing will appear to be success. It's mid-October, and although it my get worse, there is also plenty of time for things to go better too.
VLC86 Posted 27 December 2016 Posted 27 December 2016 Can we have a round of applause for the 7 Very Bad voters? I also think we should expose anyone who voted anything other than average. Name and shame @Mark name and shame.
Guest Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 I'm still confident in the summer signings and I'm still expecting us to finish 5th in the league. Second half of the season is going to be incredible...
ZeGuy Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 47 minutes ago, winchesterton said: I'm still confident in the summer signings and I'm still expecting us to finish 5th in the league. Second half of the season is going to be incredible... Are you for real? That's beyond clutching at straws... Chelsea, Liverpool, ManCity, ManU and Arsenal are absolutely out of reach. Same goes for Tottenham. We actually have 17 pts in 18 games, a tally representing half of the points of the actual 7th (ManU who seem to have turned up). How do you exactly expect to fill the gap?
lcfcben76 Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 58 minutes ago, winchesterton said: I'm still confident in the summer signings and I'm still expecting us to finish 5th in the league. Second half of the season is going to be incredible... Come on mate I'm usually optimistic but to put it plainly that is taking the piss, 8th at very best
bpfox Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 18 hours ago, lcfcben76 said: Come on mate I'm usually optimistic but to put it plainly that is taking the piss, 8th at very best I hope for ur sake santa gave u a copy of last seasons games, to help ease the pain of been relegated, because if we don't sign 3-4 guns we are gone.
trabuch Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 We are building a decent 1st div side. This season was always going to be weird - let's face it. PS I blame Shakespeare.
Guest Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 1 hour ago, ZeGuy said: Are you for real? That's beyond clutching at straws... Chelsea, Liverpool, ManCity, ManU and Arsenal are absolutely out of reach. Same goes for Tottenham. We actually have 17 pts in 18 games, a tally representing half of the points of the actual 7th (ManU who seem to have turned up). How do you exactly expect to fill the gap? Actually, now that you've clarified the situation. no.
dylanlegend Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 This seasons summer signings actually makes the summer we signed Kaebi, Hellings and Laczko look successful
WigstonWanderer Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 Haha judging by the results of the poll most of us are implicated and can't really complain
VLC86 Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 Announce the 7 and set up a transfer hit squad. Who knows, they might even make a film about it
Barky Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 Just goes to show how few people could see the issues with our summer recruitment at the time, in contrast to the armchair experts currently talking as if it was obvious all along.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 I'm still not convinced that some of our signings weren't good and exciting. I maintain, the issue at present is a TEAM problem. And if you got Slimani and Musa for example, playing in a confident team that was free flowing and scoring goals, they'd look two very different players. It's too easy to claim they are shite. They aren't...We've all seen they can score goals for fun (although I do concede, at a different level). I'm not writing them off yet. If we somehow go out and reinforce our defence and midfield in Jan, watch these strikers start playing much much better.
WigstonWanderer Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 Just now, Col city fan said: I'm still not convinced that some of our signings weren't good and exciting. I maintain, the issue at present is a TEAM problem. And if you got Slimani and Musa for example, playing in a confident team that was free flowing and scoring goals, they'd look two very different players. It's too easy to claim they are shite. They aren't...We've all seen they can score goals for fun (although I do concede, at a different level). I'm not writing them off yet. If we somehow go out and reinforce our defence and midfield in Jan, watch these strikers start playing much much better. Hope you are right
DelBoy73 Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 I never give any credit to the ones claiming " i told you so", since it is always easy to assert a view on new signings when you are 20 games deep in a season. Transfer windows are something like hit & miss, and this time we missed by a bloody fair margin. Every man and his dog can see now that our aging CB pairing are way past there A-game and not PL caliber anymore, period. Also obvious that since Kante's gone we are void of any efficiency to switch from defensive position to attack builds-up So we found us now in desperate need to bring in a decent CB and a quality CM or versatile DM in the mold of Drinky. In the light of how the season unfolded it looks like the signing of Musa and Slimani were an utter waste of money. Have we got the cash and enough attractiveness to sign quality players that would fancy a relegation battle in January ?
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 2 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said: Hope you are right What I would say is that we targeted the wrong areas. We needed a quality young centre back (and please no one try to tell me that we couldn't have gotten one) together with a very good CM. I don't mean Mendy (a strong DM) but a real ball player. A key to unlocking defences. Silva would have been a superb signing. The shame is we are writing off our strikers BEFORE we have signed the right type of player to give them the team play that they need.
ZeGuy Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 12 minutes ago, Col city fan said: What I would say is that we targeted the wrong areas. We needed a quality young centre back (and please no one try to tell me that we couldn't have gotten one) together with a very good CM. I don't mean Mendy (a strong DM) but a real ball player. A key to unlocking defences. Silva would have been a superb signing. The shame is we are writing off our strikers BEFORE we have signed the right type of player to give them the team play that they need. I know Youtube videos aren't a very reliable indicator of the player's quality, but from what I saw Ndidi could indeed be the box-to-box midfielder we actually need. His vision first touch is good, long range passing more than okay, not afraid to his chances near the box (something we miss since none of our players aren't able to shoot on target at more than 16 yards) and seems to have some solid defensive skills. More than everything he's comfortable with the ball and that's something youtube can't fake.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 I'm in the minority but I still believe we haven't seen the best of our signings yet. @Col city fan made a great post above, one which I agree with and it's similar to what I'm trying to suggest. I don't feel the signings and squad in fact, are being utilised to their qualities. This is because of the formation situation & tactics. If we try something different, i.e 4-3-3 or 3-5-2, it's going to suit some of our players and signings much better. Musa for instance would flourish in a front three, Albrighton would be far more effective in my opinion on the right wing, Hernandez might be solid in a back three, and Mahrez needs to stop having the defensive responsibility at RM - perhaps we should try him in a front three as well, or in the CAM position. It's stuff like I've mentioned which needs looking at, to get the best out of this squad. I keep coming back to that point about utilising players, and that's why players are not showing their full potential because they're playing in a system which isn't working at this time. The dilemma lies though, where the players reportedly wanted to stick with 4-4-2. I almost feel like they're so used to the formation/system, they don't know any other.
ZeGuy Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 3 minutes ago, CityFan 06 said: I'm in the minority but I still believe we haven't seen the best of our signings yet. @Col city fan made a great post above, one which I agree with and it's similar to what I'm trying to suggest. I don't feel the signings and squad in fact, are being utilised to their qualities. This is because of the formation situation & tactics. If we try something different, i.e 4-3-3 or 3-5-2, it's going to suit some of our players and signings much better. Musa for instance would flourish in a front three, Albrighton would be far more effective in my opinion on the right wing, Hernandez might be solid in a back three, and Mahrez needs to stop having the defensive responsibility at RM - perhaps we should try him in a front three as well, or in the CAM position. It's stuff like I've mentioned which needs looking at, to get the best out of this squad. I keep coming back to that point about utilising players, and that's why players are not showing their full potential because they're playing in a system which isn't working at this time. The dilemma lies though, where the players reportedly wanted to stick with 4-4-2. I almost feel like they're so used to the formation/system, they don't know any other. Agree. I have a problem with players dictating the formation though. Even more when this formation showed its limits for months and is leading us to the bottom of the table. I genuinely thought it was the coach's job to decide which formation would suit the team best. it is apparently not the case and I have a hard time to make anything out of it.
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 26 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: I know Youtube videos aren't a very reliable indicator of the player's quality, but from what I saw Ndidi could indeed be the box-to-box midfielder we actually need. His vision first touch is good, long range passing more than okay, not afraid to his chances near the box (something we miss since none of our players aren't able to shoot on target at more than 16 yards) and seems to have some solid defensive skills. More than everything he's comfortable with the ball and that's something youtube can't fake. Oh believe you me it can As I said elsewhere the signing worries me if it's suppose to be the answer to the middle of the park problems, massive ask to expect a lad who's just turned 20 to completely reinvigorate the team in a short time period in a league which has a higher tempo and level of quality than anything you've experienced before...... and that is what we need.
ZeGuy Posted 28 December 2016 Posted 28 December 2016 20 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Oh believe you me it can As I said elsewhere the signing worries me if it's suppose to be the answer to the middle of the park problems, massive ask to expect a lad who's just turned 20 to completely reinvigorate the team in a short time period in a league which has a higher tempo and level of quality than anything you've experienced before...... and that is what we need. I don't know, I might be wrong but the way he moves with ball and how he passes lead to believe he's naturally comfortable with it. Didn't see it with Amartey or any other player beside Mahrez naturally and Drinkwater or Fuchs to a certain extent. Just a feeling. His shooting technique definitely needs improvement though. i found him pretty confident as a sentinel and has a natural authority that can really, really help the team. Naturally it's a gamble and the lad is young, but it can't be worse than now. We're not getting any quality midfielder (or player) in january and anyone who's thinking the contrary is deluded. After the catastrophic display of the first half season, I doubt there are many daredevils willing to come to a club seemingly in a free fall.
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