FuchingKante Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 39 minutes ago, Babylon said: Every manager is a disaster for England because a) he's got to pick English players b) the pressures from the press and fans etc. Hodgson lost his way due to that and never really stuck to his principles. I'm not going to judge him on England. He did good jobs at Fulham and West Brom when expectation wasn't so high and he could do it his way without too much outside influence. As a long term manager, no thanks. But if we got into deeper doo doo than we are now then I think he'd be an ideal candidate to call upon until the end of the season. As I mentioned before, he knows the league, all our opposition, many of our players. Despite England I think he's still get respect from the players, he's used to dealing with fragile egos at the highest levels and can sort teams out tactically. A steadying hand who can make himself clear and the players understand what he's saying and what he want. Again, long term no. But if you're sacking people in February / March you're only going to get people who "failed" in their last job. Anyone doing a good job elsewhere probably won't be available. You're talking about a bloke who put Harry Kane on corners. The fact that he is even being considered is scary.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 If we could convince him to come here then I'd love to see Cambiasso given the job
Babylon Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 3 minutes ago, FuchingKante said: You're talking about a bloke who put Harry Kane on corners. The fact that he is even being considered is scary. How did the others do when they went on corners? If he was the best in training then it's not hard to understand why, Kane and the others were bottle jobs are shown for Spurs and as shown for England. Out of your depth for England is something very different to managing Leicester City.
FuchingKante Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Just now, Babylon said: How did the others do when they went on corners? If he was the best in training then it's not hard to understand why, Kane and the others were bottle jobs are shown for Spurs and as shown for England. Out of your depth for England is something very different to managing Leicester City. You also remember he took 5 strikers to the Euros instead of taking Drinkwater? The man is clueless.
Babylon Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 2 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: If we could convince him to come here then I'd love to see Cambiasso given the job Yeah because the players clearly loved him....
Babylon Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Just now, FuchingKante said: You also remember he took 5 strikers to the Euros instead of taking Drinkwater? The man is clueless. I'll refer you to my very first post. You could pick out stupid decisions made by any manager you could list as his replacement.
1972 Fox Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 5 hours ago, Babylon said: Every manager is a disaster for England because a) he's got to pick English players b) the pressures from the press and fans etc. Hodgson lost his way due to that and never really stuck to his principles. I'm not going to judge him on England. He did good jobs at Fulham and West Brom when expectation wasn't so high and he could do it his way without too much outside influence. As a long term manager, no thanks. But if we got into deeper doo doo than we are now then I think he'd be an ideal candidate to call upon until the end of the season. As I mentioned before, he knows the league, all our opposition, many of our players. Despite England I think he's still get respect from the players, he's used to dealing with fragile egos at the highest levels and can sort teams out tactically. A steadying hand who can make himself clear and the players understand what he's saying and what he want. Again, long term no. But if you're sacking people in February / March you're only going to get people who "failed" in their last job. Anyone doing a good job elsewhere probably won't be available. Best if we agree to disagree on this one. I for one do not want him anywhere near our shortlist if Ranieri was to leave. I note that you say you don't want to judge him on his England reign but come on, he was absolutely clueless at the recent Euros and just as bad at the 2014 World Cup. No, no and no again.
Babylon Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 33 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Best if we agree to disagree on this one. I for one do not want him anywhere near our shortlist if Ranieri was to leave. I note that you say you don't want to judge him on his England reign but come on, he was absolutely clueless at the recent Euros and just as bad at the 2014 World Cup. No, no and no again. So who's available that's not been a failure somewhere? You aren't going to get someone who is in a job and doing well half way or three quarters of the way into a season. I'd rather have someone experienced in our league, who knows our team and players and the opposition. As a short term option he looks the best of that bunch.
spudfox2911 Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 6 hours ago, Koke said: Rodgers took over a shambolic Liverpool side tbf. We're not Liverpool and we don't demand top 4, so for us he'd probably do alright. Rodgers is not a bad manager. He's not a top 4/5 manager but he certainly isn't too shit for us. £300million spent Decent or at least above average inherited. don't forget he would always blame the transfer committee, conviently forgetting he was in that committee. he wasn't sacked for not challenging, he was sacked because he insisted the board give him even more money to waste! You don't go to SPL from the EPL or even EFL to further your career, You go there as no one else wants you. (starting out players and managers from Scotland excluded) Other than Swansea, not his team or philosphy, he has achieved nothing of worth and infact failed miserably ie watfird and reading, he is a cheque book manager that relies on expensive talent rather than good coaching or scouting to disguise him as a good manager. reiterate thanks but no thanks. whoever said Hodgson or pardew. Well.....does not merit a response really, i would tolerate the above Rodgers for the club but either of those two i would be sickened, absolute despair just at the thought.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Hodgson Just laughable Admittedly did a good job at Fulham and Wba but judging on his England decisions seems like he's gone senile.
st albans fox Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Page 9 and I haven't read a name of someone who would be interested in coming that is better than what we already have.
1972 Fox Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 18 minutes ago, Babylon said: So who's available that's not been a failure somewhere? You aren't going to get someone who is in a job and doing well half way or three quarters of the way into a season. I'd rather have someone experienced in our league, who knows our team and players and the opposition. As a short term option he looks the best of that bunch. Yes it will be a difficult task to find the right replacement at this point in time. Ideally Claudio is given time and he manages to turn it round. I can't accept Hodgson as a credible candidate though if we were to replace Ranieri. Would rather have Pearson back. Would even have Redknapp as a short term replacement until the end of the season but please not Hodgson.
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Sacking CR is not the answer the players need to take a good look at themselves. If they can do it in the Champions league as they have they should be able to do it in the league
Leamington Fox Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 Can we just close down this silly thread? I cannot see a rational argument for sacking Claudio before the end of the season.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 23 January 2017 Posted 23 January 2017 7 hours ago, mikey54 said: Quique Flores I like this suggestion except he does play possession football. Something we are not very good at.
Dan Posted 24 January 2017 Posted 24 January 2017 Playing possession football isn't an issue at all. If a manager can coach that into this lot then he's a ****ing genius.
Guy Posted 24 January 2017 Posted 24 January 2017 20 hours ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said: What have you seen to Base this on? Fact? Or your own bias? The only thing I have seen in interviews or writing since ranieri has been here is when vardy got banned and he referred to the club as his "beloved leicester city" But no I'm sure you are in the know and go for a cup of tea with the owners and they tell you all of this Unless you have fact don't speculate bull shit you just make yourself sound daft Maybe so, please understand I'm on here for pleasure, I don't see it as a matter of life or death
Guy Posted 24 January 2017 Posted 24 January 2017 14 hours ago, hackneyfox said: If NFP acted in the way I've been told then the owners had no choice but to sack him, there was no longer anything like a working relationship. He's clearly not an easy person to work with, hence the amount of 'gardening leave'. Well maybe so It is a 'results business' though of course but maybe managers can only push matters to a certain extent before they feel the wrath of the owner(s).....as Pearson has since found to his cost twice over. Maybe why he's still possibly seeking work....
RizLCFC Posted 24 January 2017 Posted 24 January 2017 On 22/01/2017 at 17:52, Tuna said: I saw someone suggest David Wagner in another thread. I like the sound of that, mini Klopp and has Huddersfield playing great football. Turned them around when they were struggling last season as well. That was me. He was very close to joining Wolfsburg a few weeks ago but turned them down at the last minute, probably because he wants to see out this season with Huddersfield. Along with him I suggested Julian Nagelsmann, 29 year old manager of Hoffenheim, he's currently lead them to 3rd in the Bundesliga. It's his first season in management but he's a fresh face with fresh ideas and tactics. He'd be more difficult to lure than Wagner. Anyway, both would be summer targets for me. I'm still convinced we won't go down and I'd give it to Claudio until then to sort it out.
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