LittlethorpeFox Posted 20 February 2017 Author Posted 20 February 2017 Just now, AKCJ said: You'd rather do without the distraction of the potential of winning the F.A. Cup? Each to their own, but IMO that's barmy. What's the point in being a football fan if you have no ambition of winning trophies? Yes but i am only saying that for the next 3 months of my life as a football fan that all i want is to get to 40 points. I have been going down since 1991 and i have two young lads who will be coming down with me soon for many years to come. i think premiership survival now will give us the platform to grow and get to fa cup finals in the future. i just will accept the short term pain now for long term gain. and be realistic, on current form we have 0% chance of winning the fa cup
Guest MattP Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 17 minutes ago, Lako42 said: I have no idea how anyone can say we had a chance of winning the FA Cup We can't even score a ****ing goal 17 minutes ago, Harry - LCFC said: Palace and Aston Villa got to the final and stayed up. On balance evidence runs the other way. 10 minutes ago, st albans fox said: With yanited or Chelsea and citeh plus arsenal all pretty well guaranteed to be in the semis then I would challenge your statement 8 minutes ago, Facecloth said: 5 of the top six are still in the cup, and we can't buy a goal against Swansea, let alone a win. I don't think we'd have got much further unless we'd drawn Lincoln, and that wouldn't have even been a given atm. Sure Chelsea or Man U will go next would, but in all likely hood, Spurs, Arsenal, one of Chelsea and Man Utd and Man City will progress, so even if we'd replaced on of those I think our run would be ending. It was unlikely we would win it of course, but we had a chance of doing so, we would have been three matches away and despite the travesty of the last couple of months we do still have a team who is capable of beating good sides, they have shown that in the odd game like Man City at home, Wigan had no chance of winning it but somehow managed it after a few things went their way, it's possible that could have happened to us. I just don't see how anyone can say what happened on Saturday could be good in anyway.
Dan Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 19 minutes ago, Lako42 said: I have no idea how anyone can say we had a chance of winning the FA Cup We can't even score a ****ing goal How did we get to the 5th round again? We are tripe but anyone pretending the weekends result isn't an absolute disgrace is kidding themselves.
The Doctor Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: I just don't see how anyone can say what happened on Saturday could be good in anyway. It could give us the kick up the arse to finally get in gear and get ourselves sorted... that's about the only way you could get a positive out of it
Harry - LCFC Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 32 minutes ago, LittlethorpeFox said: You can make that argument though. A rest isn't just about not playing in a fixture, its about the whole squad, management and back room staff not having to travel to an away game. Being able to spend more time on the training field. Not potentially having another damaging loss on record when the team can be preparing for a far more important league game. They can focus everything on the next league game with no distractions. I don't think having seven days training compared to six is likely to make much difference. The bit I've highlighted also supports my argument - if you say that losing to Spurs would be bad for morale then you certainly must conclude that losing to Millwall will be bad for morale. 31 minutes ago, LittlethorpeFox said: The argument was about our best chance of winning it though, not our best chance of being runners up like both Villa and Palace were. As if that was what made the difference? Villa, Palace and Wigan all expended roughly the same amount of effort to get to the final. The fact Villa and Palace lost in the final (after the league had ended) did not help them to perform better in the league.
lcfcben76 Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 The result vs millwall would have had no verdict on the Arsenal match being moved?? If Arsenal somehow lose then we will play them on the 11march which according to your logic would be bad?? If we'd have won then the Arsenal game would have definitely been moved to later in the season. absolutely woeful logic
CockneyFox Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 57 minutes ago, LittlethorpeFox said: I think Shaun Cummings who scored Millwall's late winner on Saturday could be the man who has saved our season. Things he has helped us avoid: 1. Liverpool at home on 12.30 Saturday 25th February, Within 70 hours of a flight back from Seville. The Millwall result was as depressing as they come, but 3 points against Liverpool on Monday and that is all forgotten. Liverpool are the last team you want to be playing with a short rest. 2. A week off for the weekend of 11th March. We play West Ham away on 18th March. And Sevilla at home 14th March. An FA Cup tie on 11th March weekend away at Spurs would have given us 3 very tough games in a week. I think having a weekend off gives us a much better chance against West Ham 3. The Arsenal away game comes later in the season if they beat Sutton, they would rip us apart at the moment, further down the season we could be in much better form Lets face it Saturday was an embarrassment, an absolute joke - but the last thing we needed was a replay, and i think in the long run better than a win as well. Maybe that result was the kick up the arse we need along with Swansea. People will tell me that you need to win in the cup to keep your momentum/morale up. Well on recent evidence, wins against Everton and Derby in the Cup have been followed by 3-0 and 2-0 losses by Chelsea and Swansea respectively - so not sure thats true at the moment. Our only loss in a cup competition this season? Porto away.... next result Leicester City 4 - 2 Man City Could be a turning point. We need to focus everything this club has on staying up, and then starting to learn from the mistakes of this season in the summer. If we stay up it will go down as a painful and frustrating season, but the lesssons learned by the owners i think will make us much better going forward around recruitment and club focus. Hi Claudio...
old koppite Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 We wouldn't get past spurs anyway- they played almost full strength yesterday- God , bet they wish we had got through to give us a good thrashing and they wouldn't have the bother with millwall
blurryface Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 1 hour ago, LittlethorpeFox said: I think Shaun Cummings who scored Millwall's late winner on Saturday could be the man who has saved our season. Things he has helped us avoid: 1. Liverpool at home on 12.30 Saturday 25th February, Within 70 hours of a flight back from Seville. The Millwall result was as depressing as they come, but 3 points against Liverpool on Monday and that is all forgotten. Liverpool are the last team you want to be playing with a short rest. 2. A week off for the weekend of 11th March. We play West Ham away on 18th March. And Sevilla at home 14th March. An FA Cup tie on 11th March weekend away at Spurs would have given us 3 very tough games in a week. I think having a weekend off gives us a much better chance against West Ham 3. The Arsenal away game comes later in the season if they beat Sutton, they would rip us apart at the moment, further down the season we could be in much better form Lets face it Saturday was an embarrassment, an absolute joke - but the last thing we needed was a replay, and i think in the long run better than a win as well. Maybe that result was the kick up the arse we need along with Swansea. People will tell me that you need to win in the cup to keep your momentum/morale up. Well on recent evidence, wins against Everton and Derby in the Cup have been followed by 3-0 and 2-0 losses by Chelsea and Swansea respectively - so not sure thats true at the moment. Our only loss in a cup competition this season? Porto away.... next result Leicester City 4 - 2 Man City Could be a turning point. We need to focus everything this club has on staying up, and then starting to learn from the mistakes of this season in the summer. If we stay up it will go down as a painful and frustrating season, but the lesssons learned by the owners i think will make us much better going forward around recruitment and club focus. So point 1 has a an 'if' (beating Liverpool) point 2 has a 'chance' (against west ham) and point 3 has a 'could' (be in better form) based on that, I do not think Shaun Cummings has potentially saved our season. More then happy to buy you a Milwall shirt with his name on when you prove me wrong
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Got to say that was not a great chance to win the FA cup. If for no other reason in case we haven't noticed we're shit and would get soundly beaten by the first decent team we played against.
stevelcfc Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 We're going to lose every game in the league and CL anyway, least if I'd have got a draw I could have bought one of those blue plaques to say I was there when...
norwichfox Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Possibly our best recent chance of winning the cup blown.Looking at who's left, not many of those selected for the gsme would be affected by short time between fixtures, as they wouldn't have been playing anyway. Having said that, I wouldn't relish the thought of losing to Sutton or Lincoln further down the line.....but still would have liked the chance to see it.
jmono84 Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 I agree with his point bout short term pain hopefully equals long term gain in the sense we can concentrate more on the league. stayin in the prem is the priority but still, losing like that against 10 man lge 1 team is unforgivable!
Foxxed Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 If our extra rest gives us extra points, and we use those extra points to stay up, then I'll take your point, since I'd prefer us to take the current squad back into the premiership, than take the FA cup into the championship.
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 2 hours ago, LittlethorpeFox said: I think Shaun Cummings who scored Millwall's late winner on Saturday could be the man who has saved our season. Things he has helped us avoid: 1. Liverpool at home on 12.30 Saturday 25th February, Within 70 hours of a flight back from Seville. The Millwall result was as depressing as they come, but 3 points against Liverpool on Monday and that is all forgotten. Liverpool are the last team you want to be playing with a short rest. 2. A week off for the weekend of 11th March. We play West Ham away on 18th March. And Sevilla at home 14th March. An FA Cup tie on 11th March weekend away at Spurs would have given us 3 very tough games in a week. I think having a weekend off gives us a much better chance against West Ham 3. The Arsenal away game comes later in the season if they beat Sutton, they would rip us apart at the moment, further down the season we could be in much better form Lets face it Saturday was an embarrassment, an absolute joke - but the last thing we needed was a replay, and i think in the long run better than a win as well. Maybe that result was the kick up the arse we need along with Swansea. People will tell me that you need to win in the cup to keep your momentum/morale up. Well on recent evidence, wins against Everton and Derby in the Cup have been followed by 3-0 and 2-0 losses by Chelsea and Swansea respectively - so not sure thats true at the moment. Our only loss in a cup competition this season? Porto away.... next result Leicester City 4 - 2 Man City Could be a turning point. We need to focus everything this club has on staying up, and then starting to learn from the mistakes of this season in the summer. If we stay up it will go down as a painful and frustrating season, but the lesssons learned by the owners i think will make us much better going forward around recruitment and club focus. The sort of pathetic attitude that has plagued our season. Yes, the attitude of the fans too.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.