Leicester accused of forcing Mancity into a panic-buy

[TheFox1]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

It's not in the club's interest to tell player or agent the 'asking price'. Agents are constantly 'selling' their player - it's how they make money. 

They know it , not the exact figure ... but around 40 / 50 millions for Mahrez for example. 

57 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Well we know that price wasn't 50 million. Because like I said. It was widely reported at the end of they year, before the January window opened. That the 50 million quote given out in the summer was "Well below what Leicester value him" 

So what was the the value of Mahrez this summer  ?!  

[ARTY_FOX]

18 minutes ago, TheFox1 said:

They know it , not the exact figure ... but around 40 / 50 millions for Mahrez for example. 

So what was the the value of Mahrez this summer  ?!  

They never stated. Just that 50 million was Well below. So they wouldn't have quoted 50 million. They'd have quoted a much higher price if they did at all. As this story was being pretty well publicised before the window opened with mahrez playing well after it broke. I'm pretty confident that he agreed with the valuation they had given him. Which man city didn't pay. Not the owners fault they wouldn't pay the price for him. Blame man city 

Edited 7 February 2018 by ARTY_FOX

[TheFox1]

5 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

They never stated. Just that 50 million was Well below. So they wouldn't have quoted 50 million. They'd have quoted a much higher price if they did at all. As this story was being pretty well publicised before the window opened with mahrez playing well after it broke. I'm pretty confident that he agreed with the valuation they had given him. Which man city didn't pay. Not the owners fault they wouldn't pay the price for him. Blame man city 

I asked you a simple question, according to the club what was the Mahrez value this summer ?!!

[ARTY_FOX]

12 minutes ago, TheFox1 said:

I asked you a simple question, according to the club what was the Mahrez value this summer ?!!

I answered that very simply too. It wasn't said. What was said is that 50 is well below their valuation so it wouldn't be 50 would it. Very simple. 

Edited 7 February 2018 by ARTY_FOX

[oxtonfox]

£50m was well below the value. £50m + player with little experience in Prem was not £65m despite Man City’s view. 

Our club was right to turn it down especially that late in the window. Mahrez is contracted to play so get on with it man. No deal that’s my final offer. 

[TheFox1]

8 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

I answered that very simply too. It wasn't said. What was said is that 50 is well below their valuation so it wouldn't be 50 would it. Very simple. 

Even at 50 no one made an offer for him this summer, this says a lot about ...

The club can even say that his value is 1 billion , that doesn't mean he worth it .

6 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

£50m was well below the value. £50m + player with little experience in Prem was not £65m despite Man City’s view. 

Our club was right to turn it down especially that late in the window. Mahrez is contracted to play so get on with it man. No deal that’s my final offer. 

No one will offer more than that .

 

Man city may have shown interest before the end of the window ; and we don't know what was promised to Mahrez by the owner ...

 

We saw the result : Mahrez played very well the last games ... hopes he will still show his talents on the pitch this week ?

[ARTY_FOX]

5 minutes ago, TheFox1 said:

Even at 50 no one made an offer for him this summer, this says a lot about ...

The club can even say that his value is 1 billion , that doesn't mean he worth it .

No one will offer more than that .

 

Man city may have shown interest before the end of the window ; and we don't know what was promised to Mahrez by the owner ...

 

We saw the result : Mahrez played very well the last games ... hopes he will still show his talents on the pitch this week ?

No they didn't. But what's that got to do with us saying or not saying he's worth 50? It has nothing to do with that. 

[TheFox1]

14 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

No they didn't. But what's that got to do with us saying or not saying he's worth 50? It has nothing to do with that. 

What you forget is that Roma offered 30 millions this summer , and they get the price asked by the club : 50 millions .

[LestaFox92]

1 minute ago, TheFox1 said:

What you forget is that Roma offered 30 millions this summer , and they get the price asked by the club : 50 millions .

 

Marhez we know you wanna go but we want the right price 50 million in the summer isn't 50 million in january especially on the last day of the transfer window

[ARTY_FOX]

4 minutes ago, TheFox1 said:

What you forget is that Roma offered 30 millions this summer , and they get the price asked by the club : 50 millions .

They didn't get told that by the club though as was reported in novenmber/December. Nobody has ever told anyone that. 

 

You can keep saying it as many times as you like. It doesn't make it true.

Edited 7 February 2018 by ARTY_FOX

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, TheFox1 said:

I asked you a simple question, according to the club what was the Mahrez value this summer ?!!

How would we know when the club don’t want to reveal? The estimates were media talk.

[orangecity23]

If we really have overpriced Mahrez, and 50 million is a completely fair price, then it must be possible to get a player in the same position who is just as good as Mahrez, for the same money right? So why didn't Man City just buy someone else. Go to Monaco, offer them 50 million for Lemar. Offer Liverpool 50 million for Salah. Offer Spuds 50 million for Eriksen. I'm sure one of those clubs would have accepted such generous offers, instead of being bullied by mean old little Leicester.

[TheFox1]

4 minutes ago, LestaFox92 said:

 

Marhez we know you wanna go but we want the right price 50 million in the summer isn't 50 million in january especially on the last day of the transfer window

It all depends on what was promised to Mahrez by the owner .

50 millions in january  , so what's will be the price this summer after a strike  or "depression " of the player ?! 

3 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

They didn't get told that by the club though as was reported in novenmber/December. Nobody has ever told anyone that. 

 

You can keep saying it as many times as you like. It doesn't make it true.

 

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

How would we know when the club don’t want to reveal? The estimates were media talk.

It's quite simple , Roma made many offers this summer , refused by Leicester ... it's logic that they asked the club how much they want for Mahrez ?! .

[TheFox1]

3 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

If we really have overpriced Mahrez, and 50 million is a completely fair price, then it must be possible to get a player in the same position who is just as good as Mahrez, for the same money right? So why didn't Man City just buy someone else. Go to Monaco, offer them 50 million for Lemar. Offer Liverpool 50 million for Salah. Offer Spuds 50 million for Eriksen. I'm sure one of those clubs would have accepted such generous offers, instead of being bullied by mean old little Leicester.

The market decide the price of the player ,   and many parameters are taken into account (country, national team ...)

[orangecity23]

11 minutes ago, TheFox1 said:

The market decide the price of the player ,   and many parameters are taken into account (country, national team ...)

Salah is Egyptian. Are you seriously suggesting that Mahrez is worth less than Salah, because of some magical Algerian discount that doesn't apply to an Egyptian player? Because I notice Slimani cost us 30 million pounds, and he was Algerian, surely he should've cost us 10 million if Algeria is so unprestigious, plus we were the only club bidding, so surely Sporting Lisbon should have rolled over and accepted a low offer because the market was determining the price, and it was a move to a better club for the player? Oh, no, that's right, we got hosed for a big fee, because we were buying at the last minute and Sporting knew we would pay because we were desperate. The price is decided as the amount that the seller is willing to accept, and the buyer is willing to offer. Man City were trying it on with a shit offer, they got told what the price we would accept was, they then decided to try and save cash by getting the player to cause problems, without trying to get anywhere near a price that would enable Leicester to get a replacement for Mahrez.

[KansasFox]

1 hour ago, TheFox1 said:

It all depends on what was promised to Mahrez by the owner .

50 millions in january  , so what's will be the price this summer after a strike  or "depression " of the player ?! 

 

It's quite simple , Roma made many offers this summer , refused by Leicester ... it's logic that they asked the club how much they want for Mahrez ?! .

It's not that simple.  They may have asked, but it would not be logic for us to say unless we really wanted to sell.  They are free to bid.  We are free to accept or decline, but we don't have to tell them a price.

I don't want to sell my house.  I don't have a price in mind for it.  But if someone makes me an offer, I'll decide if that's worth it too me.  Offer me $100,000 I'll say no; but keep raising it and eventually you'll tempt me to sell.  But I'm not telling you what I want for it, because it is my intention at the moment to keep my house.

[ARTY_FOX]

2 hours ago, TheFox1 said:

It all depends on what was promised to Mahrez by the owner .

50 millions in january  , so what's will be the price this summer after a strike  or "depression " of the player ?! 

 

It's quite simple , Roma made many offers this summer , refused by Leicester ... it's logic that they asked the club how much they want for Mahrez ?! .

Is It? Because logic would say if they asked they'd have bid more than 25-35 million. You've done yourself over with your own logic there. 

 

You can keep saying it as much as you like. It won't make it true.

[Max Wall]

On 06/02/2018 at 15:06, Paddy. said:

I wish the media would get some perspective and stop likening having to stay at Leicester to being held in some sort of concentration camp. The guy earns £100k a week and gets to play football for a living, all this 'poor Riyad, he's so depressed' BS is frankly insulting. It's disappointing for him I'm sure, but if he was to exorcise some self-awareness for all of 5 minutes, he'd realise he's in a position now that 99.99% of us would love to be in. Footballers have every right to make the most of their career but they'd also do well to appreciate their privileged position once in a while.

 

[Max Wall]

On 07/02/2018 at 19:48, TheFox1 said:

The market decide the price of the player ,   and many parameters are taken into account (country, national team ...)

No it doesn't. The selling club dictates the price of the player when he's under contract. 

[Max Wall]

On 07/02/2018 at 20:08, orangecity23 said:

Salah is Egyptian. Are you seriously suggesting that Mahrez is worth less than Salah, because of some magical Algerian discount that doesn't apply to an Egyptian player? Because I notice Slimani cost us 30 million pounds, and he was Algerian, surely he should've cost us 10 million if Algeria is so unprestigious, plus we were the only club bidding, so surely Sporting Lisbon should have rolled over and accepted a low offer because the market was determining the price, and it was a move to a better club for the player? Oh, no, that's right, we got hosed for a big fee, because we were buying at the last minute and Sporting knew we would pay because we were desperate. The price is decided as the amount that the seller is willing to accept, and the buyer is willing to offer. Man City were trying it on with a shit offer, they got told what the price we would accept was, they then decided to try and save cash by getting the player to cause problems, without trying to get anywhere near a price that would enable Leicester to get a replacement for Mahrez.

100% correct

[Wymsey]

Sometimes you have to do your job well in a place you don't like, in a company you wish to leave, but still need to impress there in order to get what you wish to get/deserve later on.

This is something that Mahrez needs to think about as his actions are notbguving anyone favours.

[MC Prussian]

On 7.2.2018 at 16:40, TheFox1 said:

He wanted to leave the club this summer ... the first thing he and his agent probably made is asking the owner the price for a transfer .

Even if he or his agent asked the owner about the transfer (fee), which never happens btw, it still doesn't change a thing about us not having to sell.

I can ask my boss about his salary, but it has nothing to do with my existing contract. They are two separate things altogether.

 

And this is what you Algerians simply don't understand.

 

Riyad Mahrez is under contract and as long as he is a player contracted to the club, he's required to fulfill his part of the bargain - just like any other player.

What gives Riyad and/or his agent the right to revolt and make this a personal issue, not showing up for training?

Is this how Algerians fight alleged disrespect? By disrespecting a written obligation (which trumps oral agreements, I might add)? Shoddy logic.

By that same token, Algerian players can't be trusted because they'd rather throw a hissy fit instead of remaining professional and true to a legal document.

 

What you lot also don't realize is that without playing for us or the U23, Riyad's chances of playing for the national squad also diminishes with each week passing.

No national team manager will want to call up a player with no recent first team experience.

 

But hey, go ahead and make my day.

#freemehrez

[Leeds Fox]

1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Even if he or his agent asked the owner about the transfer (fee), which never happens btw, it still doesn't change a thing about us not having to sell.

I can ask my boss about his salary, but it has nothing to do with my existing contract. They are two separate things altogether.

 

And this is what you Algerians simply don't understand.

 

Riyad Mahrez is under contract and as long as he is a player contracted to the club, he's required to fulfill his part of the bargain - just like any other player.

What gives Riyad and/or his agent the right to revolt and make this a personal issue, not showing up for training?

Is this how Algerians fight alleged disrespect? By disrespecting a written obligation (which trumps oral agreements, I might add)? Shoddy logic.

By that same token, Algerian players can't be trusted because they'd rather throw a hissy fit instead of remaining professional and true to a legal document.

 

What you lot also don't realize is that without playing for us or the U23, Riyad's chances of playing for the national squad also diminishes with each week passing.

No national team manager will want to call up a player with no recent first team experience.

 

But hey, go ahead and make my day.

#freemehrez

 

Have you seen his recent comments in to the press?

 

Their squad is worse than average anyway so I’m sure Riyad will still get called up! Even after missing an important WC qualifier to wait around in CDG Airport on deadline day. 

[TheFox1]

On 07/02/2018 at 21:50, KansasFox said:

It's not that simple.  They may have asked, but it would not be logic for us to say unless we really wanted to sell.  They are free to bid.  We are free to accept or decline, but we don't have to tell them a price.

I don't want to sell my house.  I don't have a price in mind for it.  But if someone makes me an offer, I'll decide if that's worth it too me.  Offer me $100,000 I'll say no; but keep raising it and eventually you'll tempt me to sell.  But I'm not telling you what I want for it, because it is my intention at the moment to keep my house.

It's not a nuclear bomb secret, it's just the price of a player !  

[TheFox1]

14 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Even if he or his agent asked the owner about the transfer (fee), which never happens btw, it still doesn't change a thing about us not having to sell.

I can ask my boss about his salary, but it has nothing to do with my existing contract. They are two separate things altogether.

 

And this is what you Algerians simply don't understand.

 

Riyad Mahrez is under contract and as long as he is a player contracted to the club, he's required to fulfill his part of the bargain - just like any other player.

What gives Riyad and/or his agent the right to revolt and make this a personal issue, not showing up for training?

Is this how Algerians fight alleged disrespect? By disrespecting a written obligation (which trumps oral agreements, I might add)? Shoddy logic.

By that same token, Algerian players can't be trusted because they'd rather throw a hissy fit instead of remaining professional and true to a legal document.

 

What you lot also don't realize is that without playing for us or the U23, Riyad's chances of playing for the national squad also diminishes with each week passing.

No national team manager will want to call up a player with no recent first team experience.

 

But hey, go ahead and make my day.

#freemehrez

Imagine that your boss promised to you a promotion , you made efforts to get it ... but at the end the boss doesn't keep his words , I'm sure you will react similarly .

 

He respect the contract, he can't play for the moment because he suffers from a depression ... and one day he return to the training  , I see him having suffering from imaginary ill before games like backach ,  sore feet/tigh ... 

 

How you can generalise to all Algerians ?! it's an individual case,  everyone react differently  

 

There is no important match, only friendly ones . This decision is up to the national coach.