The problem is that our players are quitters.

[Ian Nacho]

2 minutes ago, davieG said:

You can argue the selection all day long but that doesn't excuse abject performances by seasoned, well paid professionals. We didn't lose that game because of Hamza, who was ok and at least up for the game or Morgan when his partner in defence Maguire as I said was woeful.

 

Puel may well be complicit with his selection and tactics but that wasn't why we lost FIVE nil. That was due to a lack of effort and the inability to perform the very basics  of being a professional footballer.

I agree we could have played any XI yesterday and we would have been battered. 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, davieG said:

You can argue the selection all day long but that doesn't excuse abject performances by seasoned, well paid professionals. We didn't lose that game because of Hamza, who was ok and at least up for the game or Morgan when his partner in defence Maguire as I said was woeful.

 

Puel may well be complicit with his selection and tactics but that wasn't why we lost FIVE nil. That was due to a lack of effort and the inability to perform the very basics  of being a professional footballer.

 

Of course I concur the players should perform for themselves irrespective of the manager, but it’s clear as daylight something needs to change we aren’t going to sack of all our players his selections are baffling each week. He has to go, and hopefully Rudkin will also get the bullet for someone who is more experienced.

[Fox92]

13 minutes ago, davieG said:

Well Maguire did himself no favours yesterday he was woeful and gave the ball away 4 or 5 times in the 1st half without any pressure on him with Southgate watching.

CP wanted the win the Leicester players didn't.

Also the penalty, regardless of whether he goes down easy or not, Maguire just pushing into a player who's got nowhere to go.

[copunk]

Whatever happens it's obvious we are going to see a massive squad overhaul ahead of next season, whilst some will think of our fans as fickle, which every football fan can be, but my anger has come more out of frustration then anything, because we all know the players can play better then they have done these last couple of months, personally I think getting Europa would have been a disaster for us, watch what happens to burnley next season, this team is nowhere near ready for another crack at Europe, recruitment wise on the whole has been a joke, we had the best chance we've ever had to really push on after winning the title, buy gambled on players who have done the business abroad but not in the prem, it's safe to say Morgan will be gone, along with fuchs, maybe Simpson too, king will leave permanently, mahrez is a no brainer, ulloa will leave permanently, the only player who I think we may keep is slimani, I don't get the love in for Chilwell at all, if we are to play 3 at the back then as a wing back maybe he finds a place in the side as going forward he's not too bad, as a full back hes awful, it's obvious how much we miss iborras influence too, he will be a massive player for us next season, vardy is so isolated up front it's crazy, playing one up top works for some teams but we really need to drop it, even with someone playing behind him, it doesn't work for us, I see us needing a RB, 2 CB, LB, a new RM and LM and a new ST, as dramatic as it looks it's evident we have become stale

[Walshy5]

I wouldn't say they quit on shakey. He was just out of his depth. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

2 hours ago, The Doctor said:

How many of them are actually playing for a world cup place? Take yesterday's line-up - Hamer will never get anywhere near even consideration for a call-up, albrighton gets overlooked, too soon for Chillwell, Choudhury and Gray even if they are going to be internationals. Morgan won't, Jamaica aren't in it, likewise Mahrez and algeria. Even the subs - Austria (Dragovic) and Mali (Diabate) haven't qualified. Silvas prospects are pretty much dead because of the transfer farce. That leaves Vardy, Maguire, Ndidi and Iheanacho interested, all of whom are pretty safely on the plane as is.

Who are the non triers then? 

 

Mahrez; we know he’s a bellend and to my mind this was where the rot set in; not dropping the **** when he upset fans, team mates and the hierarchy alike.

 

To save time, when you have got that list, please explain which employee of the club has it within his remit to select players, ensure they are performing to the best of their ability.

 

Said employee’s tools to rectify the situation if we do believe non triers are in situ are to omit them from the team. 

 

I just don’t buy it that they have downed tools. 

 

The fact is, they see he does not know what he’s doing just like anyone else with half a brain can see it.  Its very very difficult to put your heart and soul iinto something you don’t truly believe in. 

 

If there is any truth in what you say it’s subconscious, and not a ploy to get him sacked.

Edited 29 April 2018 by NotTheMarketLeader

[Dan]

5 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I think we need a fresh start and Puel is actually probably the man for the job.

 

He just needs to grow a massive pair and sort out this squad. Apparently he does better in his second season so let's see.

 

He has essentially given some players enough rope to hang themselves so it won't be so hard to drop or move them on. 

 

We have to give him till Christmas unless a really good manager becomes available like a Benitez or a Hiddink. 

What worries me though is that this is exactly how I felt when he came in. A fresh pair of eyes with a different view on things.

 

How anyone could possibly have any faith in our next manager to turn it around, unless it is someone like a Benitez, then I've no idea.

[HighPeakFox]

Using a phrase our erstwhile sports psychologist used, I suspect we may have a terrorist or 3 in our squad... 

[indierich06]

22 hours ago, Tuna said:

Did our players give up on the managers? Do we have a toxic element in the dressing room? Do we have players who think they are bigger than the club?

 

Or is all it just a convenient narrative invented by Journalists who were unhappy that our owners ruined the fairy-tale by sacking Claudio? 

 

 

Exactly, Leicester also seems to be the only club where this accusation is ever made. There are teams at the bottom of the league whose players are never blamed for their predicament. 

 

All stems from the narrative that because Ranieri won the league, he’s a genius and when we bombed the season after it couldn’t have been his fault. It’s bizarre that this weird theory seems to have stretched to subsequent managers - oh, it can’t be the inexperienced first-time manager’s fault, the players have just downed tools. Puel can’t be having the exact same problems that he had at Southampton, which their fans warned us about, it must be the players. Bizarre.

[TeaMen Tom]

In trying to get the club to change to his style, Claude is putting a round peg in a square hole.  Couple that with this squad's tendency to play like crap when they're comfortable and you have a major problem. They're going up against teams that are playing hard - many trying to stay in the league -  while LCFC is just biding time till the end of the season.  Claude could play people based on merit - only problem is most the the young players he's plugged in have done little to nothing. Backline and some of mid field lack grit - and they still can't find anyone to pair with Vardy.   I think the answer may be to overhaul the club but I'm not sure whether Claude is the one to do it.  

 

I think ownership has to come out this week and either say Claude's staying - or fire him and figure out a long term solution.  Personally, if I can get Dyche, Benitez or even Wenger - I make the change.  Otherwise you say Claude's here for the long haul - we'll sell players who won't or can't buy in - and give him a real chance.  

 

Problem with keeping Claude is the supporters have turned on him.  And they have to create some optimism for next season - as I said in one of my posts yesterday, Claude may very well have coached himself out of a job.

Edited 29 April 2018 by TeaMen Tom

[TeaMen Tom]

6 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Who are the non triers then? 

 

Mahrez; we know he’s a bellend and to my mind this was where the rot set in; not dropping the **** when he upset fans, team mates and the hierarchy alike.

 

With Mahrez yes he has periods where he's disinterested and does nothing - but he's also someone who creates that moment of magic that wins matches.  Despite all that's happened since the Man City debacle - Mahrez (along with Vardy) is the reason this club isn't fighting to stay in the league. Regardless of what they sell him for they're not going to replace the positives he brings.  They just won't be as good an attacking team -especially vs the good clubs.

[The Doctor]

6 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Who are the non triers then? 

 

Mahrez; we know he’s a bellend and to my mind this was where the rot set in; not dropping the **** when he upset fans, team mates and the hierarchy alike.

 

To save time, when you have got that list, please explain which employee of the club has it within his remit to select players, ensure they are performing to the best of their ability.

 

Said employee’s tools to rectify the situation if we do believe non triers are in situ are to omit them from the team. 

 

I just don’t buy it that they have downed tools. 

 

The fact is, they see he does not know what he’s doing just like anyone else with half a brain can see it.  Its very very difficult to put your heart and soul iinto something you don’t truly believe in. 

 

If there is any truth in what you say it’s subconscious, and not a ploy to get him sacked.

Eh, after the last two matches that's an easy list - practically all of them.

 

With Mahrez he's damned any which way. Sells him and gets pilloried by fans, keeps him and leaves him in the reserves until the summer, gets pilloried by fans. Plays him, what are we seeing now - getting pilloried by fans. 

 

That assumes Puel is in a position to do so, if those undermining him are the senior players then he's pretty much screwed at trying to fix it.

[NorthfieldsFox]

Something rotten at the core of this group