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I've not seen one of these this season, but please merge if I missed it.

 

It looks like we are playing 4-4-2, so that usually means we need something like the following.

 

GK 3

LB 2

CB 5

RB 2

Wing 4

CM 5

FW 4

 

We need at least 8 home grown players, and U21 do not count towards the 25 man max.

 

I think the list is correct at the moment. Let me know if I have missed anyone. I don't think there is anything we haven't discussed a thousand times over.


Defenders - We do need another CB, or two.

Wingers - I know we have been playing Diabate as a wide forward, but we are really light in this area. We'll probably keep Kapustka but I've omitted him from the squad as I don't think he is good enough, and should be loaned out/sold.

CM - We need to let a number go here. King, James and Mendy - hopefully they can be loaned out as no one will buy. But then we are relying on Silva and Iborra to step up, which I think they should. But with Ndidi, Madisson, and Choudhury we have a good young and exciting trio. Amartey is a useful utility player imo (and a midfielder according to the club).

FW - A lot of people to let go here too. I'd rather we let Ulloa go than Slimani, but Ulloa is too old and costly, so I think we end up with him, while offloading Slim (I hope we can). We also need to let Okazaki go, and Josh Gordon won't step up to the seniors. However, it doesn't leave us with many options and I'd really like us to get in a good quality signing to compete with Vardy and Iheanacho. But I think we'll end up keeping Slimani or Okazaki. 

 

What do you guys think?

 

25 Man Squad 25 <25      
Home Grown 12 >8      
Under 21 5        
           
  Squad HG U21    
GK - 3          
Kasper Schmeichel S H      
Danny Ward S H      
Eldin Jakupovic S        
Sub-total excl. U21  3    
LB - 2          
Ben Chilwell S H      
Christian Fuchs S        
Callum Elder   H      
Sub-total excl. U21  2    
CB - 5          
Harry Maguire S H      
Jonny Evans S H      
Wes Morgan S H      
Yohan Benalouane S        
Darnell Johnson S H U21    
Josh Knight S H U21    
Sam Hughes S H U21    
Sub-total excl. U21  4    
RB - 2          
Ricardo Pereira S        
Danny Simpson S H      
Sub-total excl. U21  2    
Wingers - 4          
NEW WINGER S        
Fousseni Diabaté S        
Marc Albrighton S H      
Demarai Gray S H      
Bartosz Kapustka          
Sub-total excl. U21  4    
CM - 5          
Wilfred Ndidi S        
James Maddisson S H      
Adrien Silva S        
Vicente Iborra S        
Matty James   H      
Daniel Amartey S        
Nampalys Mendy          
Andy King   H      
Hamza Choudhury S H U21    
Sub-total excl. U21  5    
FW - 4          
Jamie Vardy S H      
Kelechi Iheanacho S H      
Islam Slimani S        
Shinji Okazaki S        
Leonardo Ulloa S        
George Thomas   H U21   Loan to Scunthorpe
Layton Ndukwu S H U21    
Josh Gordon   H      
Sub-total excl. U21  5    
TOTAL excl. U21  25    

 

03/08/2018 16:00 (Lusaka time!): I've updated to with George Thomas off to Scunthorpe, I've put Diabate as a winger and included Shinji and Slimani. Which means James, Mendy and King are losing out at the moment.

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Updated to send Thomas on loan.
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2 minutes ago, LinekersApples said:

2 mistakes:

 

you're classing Amartey as a midfielder and Benalouane as a footballer. 

 

1 thing I'd disagree on:

 

Don't sell Shinji.  :(

 

Other than that, spot on.

Haha!

 

Yeah, the club have Amartey as a midfielder. I see him as more of a utility player, for defence and midfield, but not getting much game time unless we have injuries, which we seemed to get a lot of last season. Benny... I wish we could get rid, but I think we are stuck with him!

 

With Shinji, we need to make space. He seemed to have reached the end of his usefulness for us last season. We need the squad number unfortunately.

 

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That's our first mistake.

No Manager expected to be successful can manage that many players.

15 to 16 first Team players is all that's needed. Then use the development squad for backup if and when needed. 

Players need to be told which group they're in from the start of season.

Then let the Manager work his squad into a tight knit group.

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4 minutes ago, LinekersApples said:

Elder left back

Amartey right back

 

Sell Benny.  New CB and Winger needed, then we are all set for midtable obscurity and a couple of quarter finals :ph34r:

I'll move Elder to LB, but not Amartey to RB, just because the club have him as a midfielder (as I mentioned above).

 

I guess Elder will not be in the final 25 man squad as both Chilwell and Fuchs ahead of him.

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We obviously wouldn't register Ulloa ahead of Shinji and I would guess that at least one of Mendy/James is in the squad.

 

But I also wouldn't be entirely surprised if we dumped Simpson and Amartey was the back up RB which frees up another spot

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

We obviously wouldn't register Ulloa ahead of Shinji and I would guess that at least one of Mendy/James is in the squad.

 

But I also wouldn't be entirely surprised if we dumped Simpson and Amartey was the back up RB which frees up another spot

 

 

We would. Shinji will be easier to sell/loan out than Ulloa. So is Slimani. And we need a 'big man', so unless we get another 'big man' in, we'd be keeping him.

 

I think we'll keep Mendy, as he was Captain for Puel. Both James and Mendy are going to be difficult to shift because of injuries.

 

Interesting call on Simpson, but I think he has been a consistent performer for us, so I think we'd see out his contract. But he would be an easy sell to another "lower Prem" team or Championship team.

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14 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

That's our first mistake.

No Manager expected to be successful can manage that many players.

15 to 16 first Team players is all that's needed. Then use the development squad for backup if and when needed. 

Players need to be told which group they're in from the start of season.

Then let the Manager work his squad into a tight knit group.

Are you my Dad?! We had the same discussion this morning, which is why I thought I'd up date my spreadsheet. It's a big squad. Definitely needs tightening up.

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40 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

 

25 Man Squad 22 <=25    
Home Grown 12 >=8    
Under 21 6      
         
  DOB Squad HG U21
GK - 3        
Kasper Schmeichel 05/11/1986 S H  
Danny Ward 22/06/1993 S H  
Eldin Jakupovic 02/10/1984 S    
Sub-total excl. U21  3
LB - 2        
Ben Chilwell 21/12/1996 S H  
Christian Fuchs 07/04/1986 S    
Callum Elder 23/01/1995   H  
Sub-total excl. U21  2
CB - 5        
Harry Maguire 05/03/1993 S H  
Jonny Evans 03/01/1988 S H  
Wes Morgan 21/01/1984 S H  
Yohan Benalouane 28/03/1987 S    
Darnell Johnson 03/09/1998 S H U21
Josh Knight 07/09/1997 S H U21
Sam Hughes 15/04/1997 S H U21
Sub-total excl. U21  4
RB - 2        
Ricardo Pereira 06/10/1993 S    
Danny Simpson 04/01/1987 S H  
Sub-total excl. U21  2
Wingers - 4        
NEW WINGER        
NEW WINGER        
Marc Albrighton 18/11/1989 S H  
Demarai Gray 28/06/1996 S H  
Bartosz Kapustka 23/12/1996      
Sub-total excl. U21  2
CM - 5        
Wilfred Ndidi 16/12/1996 S    
James Maddisson 23/11/1996 S H  
Adrien Silva 15/03/1989 S    
Vicente Iborra 16/01/1988 S    
Matty James 22/06/1991   H  
Daniel Amartey 21/12/1994 S    
Nampalys Mendy 23/06/1992      
Andy King 29/10/1988   H  
Hamza Choudhury 01/10/1997 S H U21
Sub-total excl. U21  5
FW - 4        
Jamie Vardy 11/01/1987 S H  
Kelechi Iheanacho 03/10/1996 S H  
Fousseni Diabaté 18/10/1995 S    
Islam Slimani 18/06/1988      
Shinji Okazaki 16/04/1986      
Leonardo Ulloa 26/07/1986 S    
George Thomas 24/03/1997 S H U21
Layton Ndukwu 07/09/1998 S H U21
Josh Gordon 19/01/1995   H  
Sub-total excl. U21  4
TOTAL excl. U21  22

 

 

 

Have highlighted the players that I personally feel, aren't good enough to contribute over the season and although the numbers are still there, I don't think we are looking too strong. 

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4 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Have highlighted the players that I personally feel, aren't good enough to contribute over the season and although the numbers are still there, I don't think we are looking too strong. 

Looks like we are largely in agreement @Foxy_Bear it certainly looks like we are quite weak in a number of areas.

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32 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

We would. Shinji will be easier to sell/loan out than Ulloa. So is Slimani. And we need a 'big man', so unless we get another 'big man' in, we'd be keeping him.

 

I think we'll keep Mendy, as he was Captain for Puel. Both James and Mendy are going to be difficult to shift because of injuries.

 

Interesting call on Simpson, but I think he has been a consistent performer for us, so I think we'd see out his contract. But he would be an easy sell to another "lower Prem" team or Championship team.

Shinji is much better at football than Ulloa though lol

 

We didn't really use a big man at all last year, can't see us suddenly starting now.

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3 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

Shinji is much better at football than Ulloa though lol

 

We didn't really use a big man at all last year, can't see us suddenly starting now.

We didn't, and I don't know why! We do need to have a plan B if it isn't working for Vardy. Iheanacho is too similar in style, i.e. he can run on to balls, but isn't that good at holding up the play. At times, we need to have a player who can hold up play and slow things down up front. Ulloa can do that. And act as the 'target man'. Maybe Maddison will be a better link man and be able to slow the play down. Shinji did that to some extent, but I am tired of his falling over as he'd often just lose possession. Also, as I said, he's easier to move on that Ulloa. However, we'll probably keep him for this season though.

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1 hour ago, Clever Fox said:

That's our first mistake.

No Manager expected to be successful can manage that many players.

15 to 16 first Team players is all that's needed. Then use the development squad for backup if and when needed. 

Players need to be told which group they're in from the start of season.

Then let the Manager work his squad into a tight knit group.

So you'd have a smaller senior squad than match day squad? :unsure:

 

15/16 man squad and you're one suspension or injury from the bench being mostly the youth team

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12 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

So you'd have a smaller senior squad than match day squad? :unsure:

 

15/16 man squad and you're one suspension or injury from the bench being mostly the youth team

Yes I would. It's too hard to manage a large number of players. i'd have a hardcore of solid first teamers. With a few extras to step in for suspensions and injury. If shit happens then draw on the Development squad.

That way everyone knows where they stand and the first 16 all know they have a chance of playing week to week.

 

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1 hour ago, Merging Cultures said:
         
         
         
         
  DOB Squad HG U21
GK - 3        
Kasper Schmeichel 05/11/1986 S H  
Danny Ward 22/06/1993 S H  
Eldin Jakupovic 02/10/1984 S    
Sub-total excl. U21  3
LB - 2        
Ben Chilwell 21/12/1996 S H  
Christian Fuchs 07/04/1986 S    
Callum Elder 23/01/1995   H  
Sub-total excl. U21  2
CB - 5        
Harry Maguire 05/03/1993 S H  
Jonny Evans 03/01/1988 S H  
Wes Morgan 21/01/1984 S H  
Yohan Benalouane 28/03/1987 S    
Darnell Johnson 03/09/1998 S H U21
Josh Knight 07/09/1997 S H U21
Sam Hughes 15/04/1997 S H U21
Sub-total excl. U21  4
RB - 2        
Ricardo Pereira 06/10/1993 S    
Danny Simpson 04/01/1987 S H  
Sub-total excl. U21  2
Wingers - 4        
NEW WINGER        
NEW WINGER        
Marc Albrighton 18/11/1989 S H  
Demarai Gray 28/06/1996 S H  
Bartosz Kapustka 23/12/1996      
Sub-total excl. U21  2
CM - 5        
Wilfred Ndidi 16/12/1996 S    
James Maddisson 23/11/1996 S H  
Adrien Silva 15/03/1989 S    
Vicente Iborra 16/01/1988 S    
Matty James 22/06/1991   H  
Daniel Amartey 21/12/1994 S    
Nampalys Mendy 23/06/1992      
Andy King 29/10/1988   H  
Hamza Choudhury 01/10/1997 S H U21
Sub-total excl. U21  5
FW - 4        
Jamie Vardy 11/01/1987 S H  
Kelechi Iheanacho 03/10/1996 S H  
Fousseni Diabaté 18/10/1995 S    
Islam Slimani 18/06/1988      
Shinji Okazaki 16/04/1986      
Leonardo Ulloa 26/07/1986 S    
George Thomas 24/03/1997 S H U21
Layton Ndukwu 07/09/1998 S H U21
Josh Gordon 19/01/1995   H  
Sub-total excl. U21  4
TOTAL excl. U21  22

 

 

 

Apart from Benny, sounds about right.

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41 minutes ago, Ross-Kemp said:

Out:

Simpson: Consistent, and no time to replace. Amartey isn't good enough in that position to be number 2.

Morgan: Not going anywhere.

Benny: Unless we get in two CBs he won't be leaving.

James: No one will take him as he is too injury prone.

King: Yep, out on loan I am sure.

Ulloa: No one will take him. But if we could offload, I'd have Slimani over him.

 

In:

A winger: or two

A CB: or two

We also need another top quality striker imo. But unlikely to happen.

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1 hour ago, Clever Fox said:

Yes I would. It's too hard to manage a large number of players. i'd have a hardcore of solid first teamers. With a few extras to step in for suspensions and injury. If shit happens then draw on the Development squad.

That way everyone knows where they stand and the first 16 all know they have a chance of playing week to week.

 

Strange how there's not a single manager in professional football who agrees with that idea... Almost like it's a terrible one that sees you screwed the moment the season gets going, with no scope to rotate and no depth or protection to any injuries or suspensions. Squad depth is crucial, if you can't even fill a match day squad you're in trouble. 

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6 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Strange how there's not a single manager in professional football who agrees with that idea... Almost like it's a terrible one that sees you screwed the moment the season gets going, with no scope to rotate and no depth or protection to any injuries or suspensions. Squad depth is crucial, if you can't even fill a match day squad you're in trouble. 

I just tried to get it down to 16! Assuming one player to cover two, I can only get it to 18! Any injuries or suspensions and we'd be totally screwed - even using our very good youth team. Potentially, it could get down to 17, if you classified the LB/RBs as full backs and assume they could switch sides easily.

 

GK
1. Kasper Schmeichel
2. Danny Ward
LB
3. Ben Chilwell
4. Christian Fuchs
CB 
5. Harry Maguire
6. Jonny Evans
7. Wes Morgan
RB
8. Ricardo Pereira
9. Danny Simpson
Wingers
10. Fousseni Diabaté
11. Marc Albrighton
12. Demarai Gray
CM 
13. Wilfred Ndidi
14. James Maddisson
15. Adrien Silva
FW
16. Jamie Vardy
17. Kelechi Iheanacho
18. Islam Slimani

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

 

I just tried to get it down to 16! Assuming one player to cover two, I can only get it to 18! Any injuries or suspensions and we'd be totally screwed - even using our very good youth team. Potentially, it could get down to 17, if you classified the LB/RBs as full backs and assume they could switch sides easily.

 

GK
1. Kasper Schmeichel
2. Danny Ward
LB
3. Ben Chilwell
4. Christian Fuchs
CB 
5. Harry Maguire
6. Jonny Evans
7. Wes Morgan
RB
8. Ricardo Pereira
9. Danny Simpson
Wingers
10. Fousseni Diabaté
11. Marc Albrighton
12. Demarai Gray
CM 
13. Wilfred Ndidi
14. James Maddisson
15. Adrien Silva
FW
16. Jamie Vardy
17. Kelechi Iheanacho
18. Islam Slimani

 

 

 

 

 

You get get rid of Wes Morgan and Simpson for a start lol

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