Disciplinary Table

[Wymsey]

Noticed that the team has collected quite a few bookings recently.

 

Is there anyone close to being banned for a game for 5 bookings (or whatever the rule is now)?

One of the defenders must be now?

[Vacamion]

At last. A table we might dominate.

[LinekersApples]

So we are doing well in a table and have a yellow banner on SSN!

 

De Ja Vu 

[Corky]

Disciplinary Table Champions, you'll never sing that.

[Bezzanator89]

See below... Apologies.

[Swarles Barkley]

30 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

At last. A table we might dominate.

What about Home form in reverse order?

[davieG]

Yellows - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_yel_card

Reds - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_red_card

[Wymsey]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Yellows - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_yel_card

Reds - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_red_card

Thanks.

But am trying to find the stats to see who has the highest bookings, and see if theres anyone who's close to getting a ban soon.

[davieG]

11 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Thanks.

But am trying to find the stats to see who has the highest bookings, and see if theres anyone who's close to getting a ban soon.

Yellow cards per player, don't know if it includes yesterday or what the rules are

 

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/yellow_card

[Wymsey]

30 minutes ago, davieG said:

Yellow cards per player, don't know if it includes yesterday or what the rules are

 

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/yellow_card

There's currently 3 LCFC players on five yellows already, and a few on three.

 

The rules must have changed this season, as normally those with five bookings in a season (or so it was in recent seasons) get an automatic ban the gane after their fifth was made.

So, am surprised no player had got banned this season yet (iirc) for collecting a certain amount of bookings to warrant a suspension.

[brucey]

1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said:

There's currently 3 LCFC players on five yellows already, and a few on three.

 

The rules must have changed this season, as normally those with five bookings in a season (or so it was in recent seasons) get an automatic ban the gane after their fifth was made.

So, am surprised no player had got banned this season yet (iirc) for collecting a certain amount of bookings to warrant a suspension.

I thought the 5 yellow rule got reset on Dec 31 or something like that

[davieG]

3 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

There's currently 3 LCFC players on five yellows already, and a few on three.

 

The rules must have changed this season, as normally those with five bookings in a season (or so it was in recent seasons) get an automatic ban the gane after their fifth was made.

So, am surprised no player had got banned this season yet (iirc) for collecting a certain amount of bookings to warrant a suspension.

The Premier League returns this weekend with a few important tweaks to the rules and regulations. We highlight a few things to look out for.

Yellow cards

In the past, any yellow card picked up in the Premier League, EFL, FA Cup or Carabao Cup would be totted up together. When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban.

However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received. And this has led to the following changes.

Premier League:
- One-match ban if five yellow cards received before 19 Premier League fixtures (Dec. 26 round)
- Further two-match ban if 10 yellow cards received before 32 fixtures (weekend of March 30)
- Further three-match ban if 15 yellows received (no fixture limit)

FA Cup and Carabao Cup:
- One match ban when two yellow cards have been received
- Cut off point will be the quarterfinals, so no player can miss the final through cumulative yellows

Red cards remain unchanged and a player would miss the following matches in any competition, so a dismissal in the Carabao Cup could still see a player miss a Premier League match, and vice versa

Managerial misconduct

The FA is trialling a new system where "yellow and red cards will be issued by match officials for misconduct committed in the technical area." However, in the Premier League warnings shall be "issued verbally without the use of cards."

That means we will only see managers physically be shown yellow and red cards in the FA Cup, the Carabao Cup and also in the EFL.

Coaching staff who are booked/verbally warned will get a touchline ban for cumulative offences, just as players would be with yellow cards.

- 4 warnings = 1-match ban
- 8 warnings = 2-match ban
- 12 warnings = 3-match ban
- 16 warnings = Misconduct charge (ban decided by hearing)

The Football Association outlines irresponsible behaviour as:

- Inappropriate language and / or gestures towards the match officials which are an obvious show of dissent or an attempt to influence the decisions of the match officials
- Kicking or throwing water bottles, coats or other similar objects in an obvious show of dissent
- Sarcastic clapping and / or other gestures intended to undermine the authority of the match officials
- Entering the opponents' technical area in an inappropriate manner
- Gesturing waving an imaginary yellow/red card.

[ThaiFox]

Hate the red & yellow card system. It's totally unfair and often benefits the wrong team.

 

The offence should be a penalty (I don't mean penalty kick) against the team offended, not a potential rival team, which happens if a player is sent off in the 95th minute. That doesn't give much, if any, advantage to the offended team, but then gives the team in the next fixture a huge benefit of playing the team penalized without maybe their top player.

 

Yesterday Palace had 9 fouls, some quite dangerous with no-one booked, before our very first foul when N'Didi gets booked for a professional foul. So he is then on a tightrope for the rest of the match and those other players are free to make a further professional foul without the fear of being sent off.

 

The only way to avoid this would be either a sin bin situation, or the ban being carried over until those two teams meet again, although both these systems would also have major flaws.

 

However, It could have the benefit for giving referees more freedom to send a player to a sin bin for 10 minutes or so, as I'm sure they don't like sending players off (unless it's Moss or Dean!).

 

 

 

 

[StanSP]

Should do what they do in France - get 3 bookings within 10 games and you get a 1-game suspension.

[davieG]

2 hours ago, ThaiFox said:

Hate the red & yellow card system. It's totally unfair and often benefits the wrong team.

 

The offence should be a penalty (I don't mean penalty kick) against the team offended, not a potential rival team, which happens if a player is sent off in the 95th minute. That doesn't give much, if any, advantage to the offended team, but then gives the team in the next fixture a huge benefit of playing the team penalized without maybe their top player.

 

Yesterday Palace had 9 fouls, some quite dangerous with no-one booked, before our very first foul when N'Didi gets booked for a professional foul. So he is then on a tightrope for the rest of the match and those other players are free to make a further professional foul without the fear of being sent off.

 

The only way to avoid this would be either a sin bin situation, or the ban being carried over until those two teams meet again, although both these systems would also have major flaws.

 

However, It could have the benefit for giving referees more freedom to send a player to a sin bin for 10 minutes or so, as I'm sure they don't like sending players off (unless it's Moss or Dean!).

 

 

 

 

You could only use sin bins for red cards otherwise there’d be a lot of abandon games.

[ThaiFox]

5 minutes ago, davieG said:

You could only use sin bins for red cards otherwise there’d be a lot of abandon games.

It certainly would be interesting watching 5 a side on a full sized pitch!

 

10 minutes off the pitch for a yellow could work? Straight sending offs would only be for violent conduct. 

[WigstonWanderer]

I’d like to see the sin bin trialled. Too many good matches ruined by sendings off, particularly for 2 yellows received for relatively minor offences.