Windows 11

[davieG]

Windows 11 launches with redesigned start menu

 

Windows 11, the latest version of Microsoft's computer operating system, launches worldwide on Tuesday as a free upgrade for Windows 10 users.

Windows chief product officer Panos Panay, told the BBC the latest version was built to be "clean and fresh and simpler" for the user.

He promised that the new operating system would not be an "extreme departure" from what people know.

And even the least tech-savvy users can upgrade easily, he added.

"I use the frame of my father - he's 89," Mr Panay said. "I'm so excited for him to hit that button and upgrade, you have no idea.

"Not because he's my dad - because I just want it to be easy for him."

He said expert users had already tested it extensively through Window's Insider trial programme and was confident there would be no teething issues, adding the upgrade is "ready now".

 

More here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58795119

 

 

[Zear0]

As with all OS upgrades, I'd advise people to hold off for a while to give them the opportunity to fix security exploits and bugs that are guaranteed with major OS updates.  Having tested the pre-build of this, I don't have the same confidence as Mr Panay!

[Fox92]

Always exciting but I'll hold off for a while on my upgrade.

[Xen]

You'll need TPM2.0 to be enabled before you can upgrade to Windows 11. Apparently this is enabled by default on pre-configured PCs sold since 2016, but anyone who has built their own (or had one built for them) will have to do some digging in the BiOS settings to enable it. As it turns out, off-the-shelf 'custom' PCs (such as mine, PCSpecialist brand bought from PCWorld 3 months ago) fall into the latter category, so I can imagine there'll be a fair few regular non-techy consumers tripped up by that and thinking they're unable to upgrade because of it. It's not the most complicated thing in the world to enable it, but it'll definitely scare a few people off...

Edited 5 October 2021 by Xen

[stripeyfox]

26 minutes ago, Xen said:

You'll need TPM2.0 to be enabled before you can upgrade to Windows 11. Apparently this is enabled by default on pre-configured PCs sold since 2016, but anyone who has built their own (or had one built for them) will have to do some digging in the BiOS settings to enable it. As it turns out, off-the-shelf 'custom' PCs (such as mine, PCSpecialist brand bought from PCWorld) fall into the latter category, so I can imagine there'll be a fair few regular non-techy consumers tripped up by that and thinking they're unable to upgrade because of it. It's not the most complicated thing in the world to enable it, but it'll definitely scare a few people off...

yeah, my gaming PC purchased from PC Specialist less than a year ago is "incompatable" apparently - but sounds like it might be ok with the tweak you mention.

 

Not in any rush though!
 

[Xen]

7 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

yeah, my gaming PC purchased from PC Specialist less than a year ago is "incompatable" apparently - but sounds like it might be ok with the tweak you mention.

 

Not in any rush though!
 

Yeah, I went through the process and its not particularly challenging - but it does require going into the advanced startup which had an entirely different user interface which'll definitely scare some off! The microsoft website's instructions are actually fairly straightforward and worked well, which is a nice change from what I was expecting

 

Haven't *actually* updated to Win11 yet though, launch day updates are never a great idea imo. I just wanted to see whether I was going to be able to do it at some point, and as far as I can tell I will be  

[String fellow]

I really don't get this insatiable desire to get the latest Windows OS. It probably has loads of embedded snoopware and be incompatible with old hardware. I've got a number of old computers and laptops running various OSs including Win 3.1, Win 95, Win XP, and several different Linux distributions. My favourite OS is undoubtedly Win 7. In China apparently, they are even more conservative, where XP was king until a few years ago.   

Edited 5 October 2021 by String fellow

[Beechey]

I'll get it once I'm tired of my unsupported Ryzen 7 1800x and fancy an upgrade.

[Suzie the Fox]

1 hour ago, Xen said:

You'll need TPM2.0 to be enabled before you can upgrade to Windows 11. Apparently this is enabled by default on pre-configured PCs sold since 2016, but anyone who has built their own (or had one built for them) will have to do some digging in the BiOS settings to enable it. As it turns out, off-the-shelf 'custom' PCs (such as mine, PCSpecialist brand bought from PCWorld 3 months ago) fall into the latter category, so I can imagine there'll be a fair few regular non-techy consumers tripped up by that and thinking they're unable to upgrade because of it. It's not the most complicated thing in the world to enable it, but it'll definitely scare a few people off...

That's a bummer I built my PC a couple of years ago and if there is 1 thing I hate is messing about with the BIOS, although its a lot easier now days than it was 10y ago.

 

But like others will wait until some of the bugs have been ironed out before I look into updating. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

2 hours ago, Xen said:

You'll need TPM2.0 to be enabled before you can upgrade to Windows 11. Apparently this is enabled by default on pre-configured PCs sold since 2016, but anyone who has built their own (or had one built for them) will have to do some digging in the BiOS settings to enable it. As it turns out, off-the-shelf 'custom' PCs (such as mine, PCSpecialist brand bought from PCWorld 3 months ago) fall into the latter category, so I can imagine there'll be a fair few regular non-techy consumers tripped up by that and thinking they're unable to upgrade because of it. It's not the most complicated thing in the world to enable it, but it'll definitely scare a few people off...

It was a while ago now, but I read some guy claiming most processors wont run, or at least take advantage of Win 11 features. This included relatively recent machines.

 

I guess as well as the TPM 2.0 you mention, a look at general system requirements will be in order, including compatible processors. It would equally be useful if MS made available a tool to check your system is fully compatible.

[lcfcsnow]

Will old software I use such as Photoshop CS6 still work or unlikely?

[Free Falling Foxes]

41 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

It was a while ago now, but I read some guy claiming most processors wont run, or at least take advantage of Win 11 features. This included relatively recent machines.

 

I guess as well as the TPM 2.0 you mention, a look at general system requirements will be in order, including compatible processors. It would equally be useful if MS made available a tool to check your system is fully compatible.

Ahhh! Talk of the devil. I've just gone into my system update (W10) and there's a message stating my PC isn't currently compatible with W11. It then takes me to a tool I can download to determine what needs to be done.

I'll try it later.

[davieG]

50 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

It was a while ago now, but I read some guy claiming most processors wont run, or at least take advantage of Win 11 features. This included relatively recent machines.

 

I guess as well as the TPM 2.0 you mention, a look at general system requirements will be in order, including compatible processors. It would equally be useful if MS made available a tool to check your system is fully compatible.

Not sure if this is what you mean, bottom of the page Health Check / Minimum System Requirements.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11

[Free Falling Foxes]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Not sure if this is what you mean, bottom of the page Health Check / Minimum System Requirements.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11

Seen it thanks davieG

Despite my processor being 64 bit, it isn't compatible.

That said, I've seen some folk claim to have successfully installed it on PCs that aren't compatible.

Edited 5 October 2021 by Free Falling Foxes

[davieG]

2 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Seen it thanks davieG

Despite my processor being 64 bit, it isn't compatible.

That said, I've seen some folk claim to have successfully installed it on PCs that aren't compatible.

I'm the same 64 bit but only i3