Five charged over Forest FA Cup violence

[Lcfc098]

3 minutes ago, John rayner said:

I'm not deciding, but do you want fans that bring the club into disrepute for their actions, 

Why are you worried about other fans? You attend the match and have fun. What they do doesn't affect you

[purpleronnie]

11 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

Why are you worried about other fans? You attend the match and have fun. What they do doesn't affect you

Unfortunately since the 70's its affected us all.

[Tommy Fresh]

14 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

Why are you worried about other fans? You attend the match and have fun. What they do doesn't affect you

So let's say we're in Europe and some fans act daft, I assume you'd be fine if UEFA dished out a behind closed doors punishment on the club? Because other fans actions don't affect other fans right. 

[coolhandfox]

27 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

Why are you worried about other fans? You attend the match and have fun. What they do doesn't affect you

English clubs got kicked out of European competition for 5 years because of the actions of a select group of Liverpool fans at Heysel Stadium in 1985.

 

For 5 years fans not involved with the incident were affected across the country.

 

So other fans behaviour can have a affect on other fans.

[Lcfc098]

7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

English clubs got kicked out of European competition for 5 years because of the actions of a select group of Liverpool fans at Heysel Stadium in 1985.

 

For 5 years fans not involved with the incident were affected across the country.

 

So other fans behaviour can have a affect on other fans.

 

21 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

So let's say we're in Europe and some fans act daft, I assume you'd be fine if UEFA dished out a behind closed doors punishment on the club? Because other fans actions don't affect other fans right. 

 

25 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Unfortunately since the 70's its affected us all.

I see no relevance between Europe and these hypotheticals you're creating

[purpleronnie]

Just now, Lcfc098 said:

 

 

I see no relevance between Europe and these hypotheticals you're creating

You don't think hooligan behaviour domestically has affected fans going to games now?

[Tommy Fresh]

11 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

 

 

I see no relevance between Europe and these hypotheticals you're creating

Because you said other fans behaviour doesn't affect anyone else, just pointing out it does 

[Lcfc098]

11 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Because you said other fans behaviour doesn't affect anyone else, just pointing out it does 

As i said, hypotheticals. I'm pretty sure what these choose to do with their own time won't stop you from following the team.

[purpleronnie]

11 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

As i said, hypotheticals. I'm pretty sure what these choose to do with their own time won't stop you from following the team.

Its not an hypothetical when changes were made due to hooliganism.

[grobyfox1990]

1 hour ago, Lcfc098 said:

Why are you worried about other fans? You attend the match and have fun. What they do doesn't affect you

It absolutely 100% does affect us. Allocations get cut, alcohol isn't served in the concourse, kick off times and dates get changed based on police advice, the club puts in more stringent regulations on buying tickets. Etc etc etc. To think some inbreds actions cannot affect the whole fanbase is naive in the extreme. Just look at Millwall.

[coolhandfox]

43 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

 

I see no relevance between Europe and these hypotheticals you're creating

Heysel happened as did the ban and it is fact that the behaviours of a few affected the many.

 

So please tell me what I've created and and which part is hypothetical.

Edited 17 February 2023 by coolhandfox

[Guest David Oldfields Gate]

22 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Sorry, I must have missed this. Who's had their collar felt for posting a fruity meme about nonces here? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202

[hackneyfox]

4 hours ago, Lcfc098 said:

As i said, hypotheticals. I'm pretty sure what these choose to do with their own time won't stop you from following the team.

You don't know your football history very well, age is no excuse for ignorance but how old are you?

[HighPeakFox]

I didn't realise that Heysel, Hillsborough and every other football related tragedy, or an event involving hooliganism, had been downgraded from 'known events that actually happened' to 'hypotheticals'. 

 

I must have missed that meeting. 

Edited 18 February 2023 by HighPeakFox
edited for @mickyblueeyes

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

7 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I didn't realise that Heysel, Hillsborough and every other football related tragedy or event involving hooliganism, had been downgraded from 'known events that actually happened' to 'hypotheticals'. 

 

I must have missed that meeting. 

It’s pretty poor to list Hillsborough as a  “tragedy or event involving hooliganism”. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

It’s pretty poor to list Hillsborough as a  “tragedy or event involving hooliganism”. 

It was a tragedy. You do understand the word 'or', presumably. 

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

Just now, HighPeakFox said:

It was a tragedy. You do understand the word 'or', presumably. 

Ok. Have a read of the sentence again. If you feel it reads fine, brilliant. I’m really not going to get into a childish debate. 

[Raj]

Jees, this threads showing up some numpties!!!

[coolhandfox]

6 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

It’s pretty poor to list Hillsborough as a  “tragedy or event involving hooliganism”. 

But in some ways indirectly it was.

 

Without pervious hooliganism at football match in the 70s and 80s, football fans wouldn't never have been caged in.

 

Edited 17 February 2023 by coolhandfox

[HighPeakFox]

17 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Ok. Have a read of the sentence again. If you feel it reads fine, brilliant. I’m really not going to get into a childish debate. 

Likewise - if anyone else has an issue with it, no doubt they'll say so. @Mickyblueeyes, made a slight edit at your behest.

Edited 18 February 2023 by HighPeakFox

[Manwell Pablo]

On 16/02/2023 at 13:55, Lcfc098 said:

How do you know they don't go to watch the game? Why does what they get up to pre game and post game show how much of a fan they are?

They do go to watch games, I’ll be quite honest I know this is not something they do week in week out.

 

I still don’t understand anyone having sympathy for them or be critical of the police force for doing their job.

[Lcfc098]

1 hour ago, hackneyfox said:

You don't know your football history very well, age is no excuse for ignorance but how old are you?

If you read the replies again you can see they are referring to “leicester” and not other clubs. My point being unless what these have done are directly affecting you there shouldn’t be an issue for you? 

[HighPeakFox]

3 hours ago, Lcfc098 said:

If you read the replies again you can see they are referring to “leicester” and not other clubs. My point being unless what these have done are directly affecting you there shouldn’t be an issue for you? 

Perhaps his point is that anything these twunts do in the name of Leicester directly or indirectly affects every decent Leicester fan that primarily seeks to support the team, and don't want any association with those that claim to support the team but use it as an excuse or a pretext to cause havoc. 

[hackneyfox]

19 hours ago, Lcfc098 said:

If you read the replies again you can see they are referring to “leicester” and not other clubs. My point being unless what these have done are directly affecting you there shouldn’t be an issue for you? 

We aren’t seen as individual fans and treated accordingly when it comes to plod planning or the attitudes of pub owners. Only takes a few twats to act like idiots and we are seen as a club with a potentially dangerous following and we all get treated accordingly. 

I don’t see how you can’t see this and why you seem to want to not slate the idiots amongst us.

[Lcfc098]

3 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

We aren’t seen as individual fans and treated accordingly when it comes to plod planning or the attitudes of pub owners. Only takes a few twats to act like idiots and we are seen as a club with a potentially dangerous following and we all get treated accordingly. 

I don’t see how you can’t see this and why you seem to want to not slate the idiots amongst us.

My point is more so how people can decide who is a “fan” and who isn’t. Definitely not agreeing with what they do but can’t say someone isn’t a fan because you don’t agree with their actions. If I was to say all the people who sit on their hands at home games and don’t make a noise to help the atmosphere were not proper fans I’m sure I’d get a reaction from a lot of people on here. I know you can’t compare singing and smashing up pubs but everyone has their own opinion on what a “proper” fan is