Five charged over Forest FA Cup violence

[Daggers]

Yeh, shame the cops can't focus on real crimes like this...

 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

Fcking Craig Flint 😂. Hopefully he’ll learn his lesson this time.

[Manwell Pablo]

30 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Yeh, shame the cops can't focus on real crimes like this...

 

 

No offence Dave, as I know you don’t know what you’re on about.

 

Craig Flint has already been convicted of 21 counts of fraud (which is what Internet crime essentially is) A lot of which have been against the elderly. 

 

So forgive me for having more sympathy for them putting him (back) behind bars than I do with him.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Follow the money.
 

Police get a huge amount of money for policing games. It’s in their interest for it to be seen that there’s serious disorder and problems that need heavily policing.

[yorkie1999]

Just now, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Follow the money.
 

Police get a huge amount of money for policing games. It’s in their interest for it to be seen that there’s serious disorder and problems that need heavily policing.

Bit like the stewards and Leicester then.

[Matt_Lcfc]

2 hours ago, westernpark said:

The only frustration for me was that they had a DNA match! But yes I agree with your logic regarding seeking prosecution. Rivalries are fun, but if you’re incapable of understanding the boundaries of acceptable behaviour, then you deserve these sentences.

Oh, I fully share your frustration, I hope that came across in my post. 
 

Agree with your second point. It’s easy to get caught up in the heat of the moment, but when you think rationally, it’s minuscule it’s the grand scheme of things. 
 

I like to keep football as the most important of the least important things. 

[Manwell Pablo]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

 

 

I think its fair for society to call for those who are supposed to protect us to better serve the public. They may argue they aren't given the resources in which to do so and that's why it's then irksome when you consider lesser crimes are stamped down upon far more than other stuff that the police seem I'll equipped or unable to deal with.

 

Those that commit crimes get little sympathy but we can't necessarily control that. 

 

 

Again. The main perp has 21 criminal convictions already.

 

Apologies, is that 23 now?

 

Insane the police are even being questioned over this.

 

 

[Matt_Lcfc]

10 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

No offence Dave, as I know you don’t know what you’re on about.

 

Craig Flint has already been convicted of 21 counts of fraud (which is what Internet crime essentially is) A lot of which have been against the elderly. 

 

So forgive me for having more sympathy for them putting him (back) behind bars than I do with him.

A few google searches tells you everything you need to know. He really seems like a deeply unpleasant man…..

[Manwell Pablo]

1 hour ago, Daggers said:

Yeh, shame the cops can't focus on real crimes like this...

 

 

 

Apologies mate should have actually watched the video and saw it was from the IT crowd 😂

[Ric Flair]

49 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Again. The main perp has 21 criminal convictions already.

 

Apologies, is that 23 now?

 

Insane the police are even being questioned over this.

 

 

Got absolutely no issue with what's occurred here, especially for someone with a history of other muck they've done.

 

My stance on the way football disorder in general is treated compared to comparable similar trouble is what does baffle me but those that get caught up in it get little sympathy from me unless exceptional circumstances.

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Involved as a victim? Yes I would, doesn't mean I wouldn't demand that it be investigated and those brought to appropriate justice.

 

Doesn't sit well with me some of the serious crime that seems to get ignored or very poorly investigated and we should be demanding better. 

 

This is a similar scenario to the NHS.

...rape kits are too expensive to process so a massive stockpile is held in limbo!!!

  The states have the same problem. 

[FoyleFox]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Apologies for thread drift here, but the Burglary I had was years ago. Video nicked. Wtf do burglars.nick now? They wouldn't break into a house for a phone (you'd do street robbery for that) ... Second hand playstation would fetch 20 quid tops and no guarantee they'd find one. Nobody has cash anymore. No burglar gonna walk out with a 54 inch telly under their jumper..

 

What do they nick? 

In my parents case, the Dyson. 

[The whole world smiles]

It's hard to have too much sympathy as it's all pretty mindless.

 

But those sentences are unbelievably harsh when you consider what accctually happened. 16 months in prison for gesticulating and throwing a couple of flimsy metal chairs.  

 

Especially when you regularly see people sentenced for owning and distributing indecent images of kids get spared jail. 

 

Or people involved in vicious, violent bar fights get cautioned. 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

3 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

The pimp also always used my bin

 

One of the classic FT phrases

[sylofox]

9 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

 

 

Edit to add Burglary, not buggery. Just for Clarity x 🥺

So I take it you enjoyed the buggery then? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[grobyfox1990]

10 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

For nearly 6 months, I had a "pop up brothel" move in next door to me, with a pimp and at least 6 working women in residence. I live around the corner from Overdale, so it wasn't really a brothel area. Beyond the bother of the brothel, there was some gangland showboating involving toughs trying to intimidate each other; the pimp also always used my bin, since they had so much waste in the house. I complained to the police and they didn't do crap -- the brothel just disappeared one day, and a nice family bought the house about a year ago.

 

Despite the police not doing anything about the brothel, I have no problem with them going after the yobs smashing windows Nottingham. I take my family to games, and I want this kind of behavior stopped: And it's like a forest fire, you gotta stamp out the embers to keep it from flaring up again.

Similar story happened to my friend. Rented a house out, the tenants passed the as usual stringent estate agent reference checks and moved in. Turns out they were a gang running a brothel. Police made aware, given all evidence, refused to do a thing. Gang made threats to my friend, so there’s nothing he can do apart from wait for the lease term to end before the gang leave, they paid rent on time every month.

 

These inbreds deserve to be punished clearly, especially the strange looking middle aged inbred leader who has committed loads of previous, but my god the sentences are lengthy..

[nnfox]

11 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Apologies for thread drift here, but the Burglary I had was years ago. Video nicked. Wtf do burglars.nick now? They wouldn't break into a house for a phone (you'd do street robbery for that) ... Second hand playstation would fetch 20 quid tops and no guarantee they'd find one. Nobody has cash anymore. No burglar gonna walk out with a 54 inch telly under their jumper..

 

What do they nick? 

Gold jewellery

Luxury watches

Car keys (particularly for "prestige" cars, but not exclusively)

Cash (people do still keep cash, particularly the elderly)

[lcfc old boy]

9 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Follow the money.
 

Police get a huge amount of money for policing games. It’s in their interest for it to be seen that there’s serious disorder and problems that need heavily policing.

from who 

[Guest Lcfc82]

1 minute ago, lcfc old boy said:

from who 

The clubs involved ?

[lcfc old boy]

1 minute ago, Lcfc82 said:

The clubs involved ?

im not 100% sure here but i think the clubs only pay for the police while the game is in progress thats why they have stewards which is a much cheaper option, the policing away from the ground is funded by the taxpayer , which i should imagine is a huge amount of money throughout the football season, do your homework on this

[Daggers]

9 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Apologies mate should have actually watched the video and saw it was from the IT crowd 😂

Yep 😁 I was having an oblique pop at the proper twunts who either excuse their behaviour or make out it’s not as bad as that time the police didn’t investigate when someone let their bicycle tyre down.

 

The group who did this are a right bunch of Kipper cockends - and the pair of sad old gammon twats really need to get a life, dicking about like this at their age is just pure embarrassment.

 

Hopefully this post is less open to misinterpretation 😉

[Tommy G]

Can't believe some of them were 50/60. These aren't proper leicester fans, just out to cause trouble and give the club a bad name. Glad they are locked up and a shame a few have been given suspended sentances.

[Guest TamworthFoxes]

18 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Can't believe some of them were 50/60. These aren't proper leicester fans, just out to cause trouble and give the club a bad name. Glad they are locked up and a shame a few have been given suspended sentances.

Always makes me laugh this "They are not proper Leicester fans", or they are "not proper England fans" which is spouted when lads get locked up.

 

I hat to break it to you mate but majority of the time they most certainly are proper fans.  Just because you don't like what they get up to doesn't make them not fans.

If people want to fight they can fight anywhere.  If football lads travel half way round the world (In England fans cases) often with no tickets they certainly are proper fans.

Bigger fans than the majority.  Like I say just because you don't like what they do doesn't make them not real fans.

 

I dont know any of this group personally but I would stake a large wedge of next months wages they have been Leicester fans for years and have been to more games than 95% of people on here.

[Ric Flair]

The question I am interested in an answer on from the prosecution service is, if a few prats lobbed some chairs and had a bit of a scrap in town would they get a 16 month prison sentence for the same offence? 

 

You're a prat whether you do this at the football or not at the football, could you get embroiled in either without going looking for it? Possibly, but you'd be far more likely for that to be taken in to consideration if it occurred at a non-footballing event. 

[Tommy G]

8 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

Always makes me laugh this "They are not proper Leicester fans", or they are "not proper England fans" which is spouted when lads get locked up.

 

I hat to break it to you mate but majority of the time they most certainly are proper fans.  Just because you don't like what they get up to doesn't make them not fans.

If people want to fight they can fight anywhere.  If football lads travel half way round the world (In England fans cases) often with no tickets they certainly are proper fans.

Bigger fans than the majority.  Like I say just because you don't like what they do doesn't make them not real fans.

 

I dont know any of this group personally but I would stake a large wedge of next months wages they have been Leicester fans for years and have been to more games than 95% of people on here.

A proper fan goes to watch a game, not to tear it up in the local town. Your argument is void and a bit sad