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Posted
1 hour ago, Bptiger said:

Again not having a go at u but , we need experience’s in the midfield not a kid like braybrooke , YOURI failed us because he was deadset slow and wanted to play backwards more than to go forward . Not sure what we can get now we are in the championship but there had to be some young talent in Europe who want a chance to break into the epl

That is what I was suggesting??

Posted
On 23/06/2023 at 00:24, Fightforever said:

           Iversen/New GK

      Justin  Souttar  Faes 

Pereira KDH Hamza/Soumare Kristiansen

              Praet/new CAM

      Vardy/Daka    Iheanacho

 

Soumare could play because no one wants him. Some French team will probably bid 6 million on deadline day.

 

Praet same as above but replace French team with Italian. 

 

If we can't shift anyone other than Maddison, Barnes and Castange we will probably use most of the sale money to just pay the wages of the rest of the squad for the season.

 

I think that team comfortably gets out of the championship. On the xG table we were 11th in the premier league and our defence was 13th for xGA and we will have almost the exact same defence in the Championship. Alongside the best tackler in the Championship last year Hamza. Meaning the fullbacks and Justin can bomb fowards.

 

I know the game is played in real life and not on paper but the discrepancy is too huge to ignore. 

 

The issue was Ward being so terrible he relegated us. 

 

As long as Maresca isn't terrible we will stomp the championship.

 

Justin and Ricardo on the same flank will terrify and Iheanacho would clean the league.

 

I think under the right manager, Soumare will blossom and become a very important player for us. When played properly towards the end of the season, in terms of effort, talent and effectiveness, he was streets ahead of Tielemans. I'm just so pleased to be rid of the latter and think our midfield will be far better for it.

 

I also think we'll quickly get over the loss of Maddison pretty soon too. He may have certain talents admittedly but, he also, at times, with his egotiatical one man show, slows things down which is why he'd never be suited, imo, to certain fast moving top sides like Manchester City or Liverpool at their best,  where team play and not individualism is a prerequisite. I also struggle to see how he'd improve Newcastle and is probably far better suited to serial failures Tottenham 😁.

 

Whilst we undoubtedly need more midfielders, even Choudhury, Soumare and KDH are more likely to perform better in the Championship for me than Tielemans, Praet and Maddison. We now quickly need rid of these players and arguably a few more too in order to exorcise the smell of lack of effort and unprofessionalism that half the squad wreaked off towards the end of last season.

 

Seagrave should be a place of work and endeavour, not a comfortable holiday camp! A few need barking at by an aggressive demanding Italian manager and bringing back down to earth a bit. Step up or ship out!

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Posted
1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

I think under the right manager, Soumare will blossom and become a very important player for us. When played properly towards the end of the season, in terms of effort, talent and effectiveness, he was streets ahead of Tielemans. I'm just so pleased to be rid of the latter and think our midfield will be far better for it.

 

I also think we'll quickly get over the loss of Maddison pretty soon too. He may have certain talents admittedly but, he also, at times, with his egotiatical one man show, slows things down which is why he'd never be suited, imo, to certain fast moving top sides like Manchester City or Liverpool at their best,  where team play and not individualism is a prerequisite. I also struggle to see how he'd improve Newcastle and is probably far better suited to serial failures Tottenham 😁.

 

Whilst we undoubtedly need more midfielders, even Choudhury, Soumare and KDH are more likely to perform better in the Championship for me than Tielemans, Praet and Maddison. We now quickly need rid of these players and arguably a few more too in order to exorcise the smell of lack of effort and unprofessionalism that half the squad wreaked off towards the end of last season.

 

Seagrave should be a place of work and endeavour, not a comfortable holiday camp! A few need barking at by an aggressive demanding Italian manager and bringing back down to earth a bit. Step up or ship out!

Jesus, he's not even out of the door and the anti-maddison talk is afoot!  Maddison would blow the championship apart.

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Posted (edited)

                         Iversen

    James    Faes  Souttar  kristiansen

 

                         Hamza

                 Scott           KDH

 

                        Iheanacho

                   Daka       Vardy

 

 

I think we could possibly only start with 1 new signing (hopefully Alex Scott) Subs could be made up with free or low cost signings and a few loans. 

Hamza could drop back to give full backs opportunities to get forward adding width also vady can run left channel and daka right channel. Nacho to sit in the holes and link midfield to attackers 

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Incorrect spelling
Posted
6 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

Jesus, he's not even out of the door and the anti-maddison talk is afoot!  Maddison would blow the championship apart.

He was certainly one of the players that helped get us there.

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Posted

Have to laugh at the 'he'll be a decent player in the Championship' comments I see on numerous posts, half of these lot are rubbish and we've not played Championship football for 10 years, we have some really tough teams to play, Blackburn turned us over and they didn't make the play offs! 

 

Goalkeeper and Defence needs sorting out first. 

 

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Posted
11 hours ago, NW fox said:

                         Iversen

    James    Faes  Souttar  kristiansen

 

                         Hamza

                 Scott           KDH

 

                        Iheanacho

                   Daka       Vardy

 

 

I think we could possibly only start with 1 new signing (hopefully Alex Scott) Subs could be made up with free or low cost signings and a few loans. 

Hamza could drop back to give full backs opportunities to get forward adding width also vady can run left channel and daka right channel. Nacho to sit in the holes and link midfield to attackers 

No way we’re getting Scott, Bristol want over £20m for him. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, SK3Blue said:

Have to laugh at the 'he'll be a decent player in the Championship' comments I see on numerous posts, half of these lot are rubbish and we've not played Championship football for 10 years, we have some really tough teams to play, Blackburn turned us over and they didn't make the play offs! 

 

Goalkeeper and Defence needs sorting out first. 

 

Depends who you are talking about. If the likes of Iverson, KDH and even Souttar, it’s based on them having played at that level in the recent past and excelling. 
 

Others like Daka and Soumare is harder to say as they have not played at that level but Soumare has definitely played at a higher level winning the French league. It more depends on style of play and desire than whether they have the quality.

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Posted
1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

Depends who you are talking about. If the likes of Iverson, KDH and even Souttar, it’s based on them having played at that level in the recent past and excelling. 
 

Others like Daka and Soumare is harder to say as they have not played at that level but Soumare has definitely played at a higher level winning the French league. It more depends on style of play and desire than whether they have the quality.

Thomas, Kristiansen, Daka, Soumare, Praet, Ndidi,  not good enough. Not sure how people can say they will be decent without seeing them at that level. They've been rubbish for 2 years (Viktor excluded)

 

Vestergaard, Ward useless. 

 

Goalkeeping situation is dire, Iverson can't kick accurately and positioning at times questionable. Ward is worse and Smithies, how good is he if he's been behind these 2. 

 

Then we have Justin, Ricardo, long term injuries, Championship much tougher in terms of a physical game, no evidence that these guys will be decent next season. 

 

I get that we need to be positive but we need 5 or 6 quality signings just to compete top 6 in my opinion.

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Posted
On 23/06/2023 at 11:23, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

pep-guardiola-man-city-2023-3-2-2-3-form

 

Not saying we will (or could!) replicate it, but this is how Man City played last season.

 

Justin would make sense to be the one flipping from a full back out of possession to a defensive midfielder in possession.

 

As the team is currently (* = replacement likely to be needed);

 

Ederson = Iversen

Ake = Kristiansen

Dias = Souttar

Akanji = Faes

Stones = Justin

Rodri = Dewsbury-Hall

Grealish = Barnes*

Gundogan = Iheanacho

de Bruyne = Maddison*

Mahrez = Albrighton*

Haaland = Vardy

 

Ha we'll lose every game. 

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The squad is getting a major revamp in the next 6 weeks. It’s impossible to call what the first team selection will look like.

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Posted
9 hours ago, SK3Blue said:

Thomas, Kristiansen, Daka, Soumare, Praet, Ndidi,  not good enough. Not sure how people can say they will be decent without seeing them at that level. They've been rubbish for 2 years (Viktor excluded)

 

Vestergaard, Ward useless. 

 

Goalkeeping situation is dire, Iverson can't kick accurately and positioning at times questionable. Ward is worse and Smithies, how good is he if he's been behind these 2. 

 

Then we have Justin, Ricardo, long term injuries, Championship much tougher in terms of a physical game, no evidence that these guys will be decent next season. 

 

I get that we need to be positive but we need 5 or 6 quality signings just to compete top 6 in my opinion.

I agree with some of this but broadly speaking, I think you are taking a negative view.

 

For example, you say you don’t understand how people can say some of them will be decent at Championship level without having seen them at this level. To flip this, you are stating that many of them are not good enough when the same argument can be used. Ultimately, with many of them, we won’t know until we are there. In some cases, it may not even be a case of not good enough quality wise but not suited to it as a league.

 

I mean 100% agree re Ward and Vestergard.

 

I think personally you have over exaggerated the goal keeping situation. Shot stopping wise I’d suggest Iverson will be the best in the league. He isn’t one to be doing cruff turns around oncoming attackers and tippy tapping from the back so depending on way of playing, maybe. But he’s definitely more than good enough for the level. 
 

I agree re the injury prone right backs. I have said elsewhere but I’d be comfortable keeping one but not both. Quality wise both are far superior for the league though. 
 

That top list, I’d expect Praet and Ndidi to go. Again, not that they wouldn’t be good enough but probably suited to other leagues, in Europe.

 

The other 4, as I say further up. How can you know they won’t do well when they haven’t played in the league? Just because a player have been relegated from the Premier League, doesn’t mean they are not good enough for the Championship. They’ve been piss poorly managed so Thomas, Kristiansen, Soumare and Daka could be excellent if Maresca knows what he’s doing. They may also not be if their mentality is not right but we won’t know this until we have seen so to state they are categorically not good enough is laughable really! 

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Posted
2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I agree with some of this but broadly speaking, I think you are taking a negative view.

 

For example, you say you don’t understand how people can say some of them will be decent at Championship level without having seen them at this level. To flip this, you are stating that many of them are not good enough when the same argument can be used. Ultimately, with many of them, we won’t know until we are there. In some cases, it may not even be a case of not good enough quality wise but not suited to it as a league.

 

I mean 100% agree re Ward and Vestergard.

 

I think personally you have over exaggerated the goal keeping situation. Shot stopping wise I’d suggest Iverson will be the best in the league. He isn’t one to be doing cruff turns around oncoming attackers and tippy tapping from the back so depending on way of playing, maybe. But he’s definitely more than good enough for the level. 
 

I agree re the injury prone right backs. I have said elsewhere but I’d be comfortable keeping one but not both. Quality wise both are far superior for the league though. 
 

That top list, I’d expect Praet and Ndidi to go. Again, not that they wouldn’t be good enough but probably suited to other leagues, in Europe.

 

The other 4, as I say further up. How can you know they won’t do well when they haven’t played in the league? Just because a player have been relegated from the Premier League, doesn’t mean they are not good enough for the Championship. They’ve been piss poorly managed so Thomas, Kristiansen, Soumare and Daka could be excellent if Maresca knows what he’s doing. They may also not be if their mentality is not right but we won’t know this until we have seen so to state they are categorically not good enough is laughable really! 

Agree..

Too many already taking the negative path…

New manager,new approach…
we have to wait & see.

Its now a new world new campaign….

The only thing that doesn’t change are the misogs & naysayers…

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Posted

 

---------------------------Iverson-----------------------

Ricardo------Souttar------Faes--------Justin

New RW-----New CM----KDH------New LW

----------------------Iheanacho------------------------

------------------------------------Daka------------------

 

Kept it simple with formation, but this only works if we sign and absolute beast CM - hardworking/leader type with a nasty side. Something we have missed for a long time! We then also need two wingers that are pacey but also capable passers. Not sure if Man City have any we can take on loan. 

I think Kel and Daka would score a load in that partnership. I also think KDH will be come good in the Championship and be a worthy starter. 

Ricardo and Justin, IF they stay fit, should be some of the best fullbacks in the league. Iverson is solid at this level. The concern is Souttar and Faes. Part of me prefers 3 CBS with flying full backs, to shore up that defence, but I just hope we didn't see enough of Souttar, and Faes somehow looks like the player he was in his first few games with us. The absolute key signing this summer is that CM! We need a huge personality in there.

 

Posted
2 hours ago, STUHILL said:

 

---------------------------Iverson-----------------------

Ricardo------Souttar------Faes--------Justin

New RW-----New CM----KDH------New LW

----------------------Iheanacho------------------------

------------------------------------Daka------------------

 

Kept it simple with formation, but this only works if we sign and absolute beast CM - hardworking/leader type with a nasty side. Something we have missed for a long time! We then also need two wingers that are pacey but also capable passers. Not sure if Man City have any we can take on loan. 

I think Kel and Daka would score a load in that partnership. I also think KDH will be come good in the Championship and be a worthy starter. 

Ricardo and Justin, IF they stay fit, should be some of the best fullbacks in the league. Iverson is solid at this level. The concern is Souttar and Faes. Part of me prefers 3 CBS with flying full backs, to shore up that defence, but I just hope we didn't see enough of Souttar, and Faes somehow looks like the player he was in his first few games with us. The absolute key signing this summer is that CM! We need a huge personality in there.

 

.. pretty much with the amount of new players coming in, Maresca will be able to start off with his preferred formation of 3-4-1-2!!!

  We will be focusing on technical players to take up the roles and if you are looking for a physical presence in the middle then it will have to be KDH. 

  We will desperately need creativity in the centre,  we will also be playing with #10 and with two upfront, it will be most likely Nacho and Vardy.

  Perhaps the loan market would be our saviour in this instance.

Posted
21 hours ago, SK3Blue said:

Thomas, Kristiansen, Daka, Soumare, Praet, Ndidi,  not good enough. Not sure how people can say they will be decent without seeing them at that level. They've been rubbish for 2 years (Viktor excluded)

 

Vestergaard, Ward useless. 

 

Goalkeeping situation is dire, Iverson can't kick accurately and positioning at times questionable. Ward is worse and Smithies, how good is he if he's been behind these 2. 

 

Then we have Justin, Ricardo, long term injuries, Championship much tougher in terms of a physical game, no evidence that these guys will be decent next season. 

 

I get that we need to be positive but we need 5 or 6 quality signings just to compete top 6 in my opinion.

Agree with this. While I do believe Iversen is good enough for the Championship, I don’t believe he’s a PL-class keeper, which is what we need if we want to gain swift promotion next season. 

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Posted
On 24/06/2023 at 15:34, Lillehamring said:

Jesus, he's not even out of the door and the anti-maddison talk is afoot!  Maddison would blow the championship apart.

Agreed, 

 

They're more than likely the same people who slated Mahrez, saying we'd be better off without him and how he'd fail at Man City......  just bitter, or clueless 

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

If the club continues to underestimate the goalkeeper situation, I believe we will remain in Championship limbo for a while.

bit harsh that, Iversen is more than good enough for the championship, imo if he'd a start for us from the start last season we wouldnt have gone down

only concern is his footwork at times

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Posted
12 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

bit harsh that, Iversen is more than good enough for the championship, imo if he'd a start for us from the start last season we wouldnt have gone down

only concern is his footwork at times

His shot stopping is definitely at a Premier League level. However, where he lacks is, as you mentioned, his subpar footwork. Additionally, I don't see him as a commanding goalkeeper, which is equally important.
 

Preferably I’d see us sign a whole package no1, if not, at the very least a capable no2 behind Iversen.

Posted
Just now, FoxTimmy2 said:

His shot stopping is definitely at a Premier League level. However, where he lacks is, as you mentioned, his subpar footwork. Additionally, I don't see him as a commanding goalkeeper, which is equally important.
 

Preferably I’d see us sign a whole package no1, if not, at the very least a capable no2 behind Iversen.

thing with iversen he can improve on the other 2 areas imo, and hes young in goalkeeping terms too

and there is no whole package keeper imo, some have always got their faults in some areas

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