Climate Change - a poll

[grobyfox1990]

47 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

There was some talk about this all in the cvnts thread recently, and I would invite those who still doubt the consensus of data to further explain their reasoning here. 

 

Genuine curiosity; I really want to get my head round why a person would choose that particular pathway and I've never heard a really fully decent explanation. 

You have defo heard them, you just don't believe them

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

You have defo heard them, you just don't believe them

Quite right: I don't quite believe how a human being can be so dismissive of everyone's future including their own, so I'm looking for further information to come to any conclusion other than the obvious one. 

[kenny]

 

Good news for this thread.

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdrv8m5v4lo

 

Only 64 countries have submitted new plans to cut carbon, the UN says, despite all being required to do so ahead of next month's COP30 summit.

Added together these national pledges would fail to keep the world from warming by more than 1.5C, a key threshold to very dangerous levels of climate change.

While the UN review does show progress in curbing carbon emissions over the next decade, the projected fall is not enough to stop temperatures surging past this global target.

 

Not so great news.

 

We really aren't doing the future many favours. 

[leicsmac]

Jamaica experiences the most severe hurricane in recorded history.

 

So far. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Jamaica experiences the most severe hurricane in recorded history.

 

So far. 

At least they don't get loads of illegal immigrants!

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04gqez4lkyo

 

A primer on COP30, and why it's important. 

[DJW1]

The drop in global greenhouse gas emissions in 2020-21 shows what their main source is

Temperatures have varied a lot over a time scale of thousands of years. The difference now is the speed of increase in the last 200 years

[DJW1]

The drop in global greenhouse gas emissions in 2020-21 shows what their main source is

Temperatures have varied a lot over a time scale of thousands of years. The difference now is the speed of increase in the last 200 years

[CornwallFox]

11 minutes ago, DJW1 said:

The drop in global greenhouse gas emissions in 2020-21 shows what their main source is

Temperatures have varied a lot over a time scale of thousands of years. The difference now is the speed of increase in the last 200 years

Also, the same scientists that came up with the theories and evidence behind long term climate changes are the same ones screaming at the top of their lungs about the damage humanity is causing, and the existential nature of the threat. 

[leicsmac]

25 minutes ago, DJW1 said:

The drop in global greenhouse gas emissions in 2020-21 shows what their main source is

Temperatures have varied a lot over a time scale of thousands of years. The difference now is the speed of increase in the last 200 years

 

13 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Also, the same scientists that came up with the theories and evidence behind long term climate changes are the same ones screaming at the top of their lungs about the damage humanity is causing, and the existential nature of the threat. 

Exactly. 

 

Our species has the rather dubious honour of being the first to be the cause of a mass extinction event. That is already happening. How that mass extinction compares to others in the past (rivaling the "Big Five" or a smaller event), and whether it will consume us as well when it's all over, is up to us. 

 

We have a choice, and that choice will be remembered by whoever and whatever observes in the future. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

We don't really have a choice. The billionaires are making the decisions for us and we have to go along with it.

 

Nothing we can do will change that.

[grobyfox1990]

8 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We don't really have a choice. The billionaires are making the decisions for us and we have to go along with it.

 

Nothing we can do will change that.

Defo do have a choice in a myriad of different ways. Anyway 1.5 and even prob 2 is long gone. Should concentrate on adaptation now and not be so focused on climate whilst forgetting other environmental factors 

[Grebfromgrebland]

23 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Defo do have a choice in a myriad of different ways. Anyway 1.5 and even prob 2 is long gone. Should concentrate on adaptation now and not be so focused on climate whilst forgetting other environmental factors 

I was thinking on a personal level we can't affect anything. 

 

But if our leaders came together and decided that unfettered capitalism wasn't the way forward then we would have a chance.  

 

Unfortunately you can count on one hand the countries that think this way.

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Defo do have a choice in a myriad of different ways. Anyway 1.5 and even prob 2 is long gone. Should concentrate on adaptation now and not be so focused on climate whilst forgetting other environmental factors 

Be ready for malarial mosquitoes to become much more widespread, with all that entails, for one such factor. 

 

35 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I was thinking on a personal level we can't affect anything. 

 

But if our leaders came together and decided that unfettered capitalism wasn't the way forward then we would have a chance.  

 

Unfortunately you can count on one hand the countries that think this way.

The power inequality is an issue all its own which affects a lot of others, including this one. 

[Wymsey]

Need more David Attemborough's etc to inspire the current and next generation to support the planet.

[grobyfox1990]

3 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Need more David Attemborough's etc to inspire the current and next generation to support the planet.

There’s plenty of enthusiasm. Unfortunately the most incompetent generation in living memory is still in charge. Once they’re washed away there may be change/may be too late 

[leicsmac]

23 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Need more David Attemborough's etc to inspire the current and next generation to support the planet.

We have them already. 

 

Unfortunately the self interested with the power are doing a very good job of convincing other people that they're "activists", "commies", "greenies" etc which is a difficult thing to counter sometimes. The legend that is Sir David is an exception by being pretty much universally loved. 

[UniFox21]

The fact it's 17degrees in November should be huge on the news 

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

The fact it's 17degrees in November should be huge on the news 

The underlying trend driving it should be too. 

[filthyfox]

On 29/10/2025 at 16:11, Trav Le Bleu said:

At least they don't get loads of illegal immigrants!

Long way for them to swim

[leicsmac]

The Colombian President absolutely tore into the current US administration on this matter. Good to see. 

[Lionator]

It’s worth watching Iran at the minute. Not a drop of rain for 40 days in their traditionally damp season, and early evacuation warnings for Tehran. Might be the first major city we lose to climate change.

[CornwallFox]

8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It’s worth watching Iran at the minute. Not a drop of rain for 40 days in their traditionally damp season, and early evacuation warnings for Tehran. Might be the first major city we lose to climate change.

Some of the things seen in recent years have been utterly absurd.

In Pakistan 2/3 years ago and area the size of England was flooded. 

China saw a huge long stretch of temperatures over 40° in a similar timeframe. 

40° starting to become a summer norm in southern Europe.

The UK wasn't supposed to see 40° for another 50 years even on the worst climate models yet we saw it on a similar timespan to the above. 

Really scary times are coming over the next 15 years. By then, nobody will be laughing any more.

[leicsmac]

13 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Some of the things seen in recent years have been utterly absurd.

In Pakistan 2/3 years ago and area the size of England was flooded. 

China saw a huge long stretch of temperatures over 40° in a similar timeframe. 

40° starting to become a summer norm in southern Europe.

The UK wasn't supposed to see 40° for another 50 years even on the worst climate models yet we saw it on a similar timespan to the above. 

Really scary times are coming over the next 15 years. By then, nobody will be laughing any more.

And the Asian typhoon season has been devastating this year, because of the obvious reason. 

 

By the timeframe stated here, it is entirely possible both no one will be laughing and it's too late to do anything other than leave a record for those left afterwards explaining exactly who is responsible for the vastly more shitty world they have inherited.

Edited 7 November 2025 by leicsmac