Harry Winks

[brookfox]

Pains me to say it but we’re in a relegation fight and need our best 11 on the pitch every match. Like it or not that team includes Winks. He just has an higher football IQ and technique than some of our other options and other players look better as a result. Attitude this, fell out with managers that… I want us to win football matches more than  take the moral high ground right now.

[old koppite]

4 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Best player on the pitch today by a mile, if we've any hope of staying up, we will need him, JJ and Skipp to be playing every minute 

Better that any of Charlton’s players by a mile? Hmm, not sure about that 

[Arkie Bennett]

I don't think he added much today, other than doing the bare minimum for his role. If that made him our best player it says more about the rest.

[CrazyKopCorner]

I thought he did okay.

 

You can see why no one’s come in for him though and he rarely gives the decisive pass or even the one before. 
 

He’s also probably known as a complete diva within the game 

[Raj]

3 hours ago, phoneticerror said:

If you’re one of the thousands of morons who clapped when he came on, give your head a wobble.

Exactly this.

Some saying he was MOM and all that bollox...who cares, the cvnt has rinsed this club, hes a mardy cvnt. FVCK HIM

[MrsJohnMurphy]

19 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Based on technical ability he's probably the best we have in midfield at the momet but I'd rather get relegated playing someone who actually cares about the club rather than someone who's only out for himself. 

You wouldn't play 75% of the squad then, none of them really care about City

[Headcase]

6 minutes ago, brookfox said:

Pains me to say it but we’re in a relegation fight and need our best 11 on the pitch every match. Like it or not that team includes Winks. He just has an higher football IQ and technique than some of our other options and other players look better as a result. Attitude this, fell out with managers that… I want us to win football matches more than  take the moral high ground right now.

Ronaldo is a prima donna, you dont see managers sidelining him, due to not wanting to dleep a night at the training ground,  winks is one of our best players if not the best, give him what he wants. 

Until were safe, promoted, or whatever he will play his best ....then decide to keep or sell....because hes going to be worth way more if you indulge him...

Its a bit late now though

[Freddy]

10 minutes ago, Raj said:

Exactly this.

Some saying he was MOM and all that bollox...who cares, the cvnt has rinsed this club, hes a mardy cvnt. FVCK HIM

Lazy to not see past Winks prima dona mentality. We're paying him to do a job that he can do really well, use him as much as possible, otherwise is money for nothing.

[funkyrobot]

He’s miles better than Hamza. Absolutey streets ahead of him in terms of ability on the ball and actually playing forwards. 

[LCFCJohn]

If Skipp and James were fit, he’d still be out the squad. I’m not sure King really had another option here. And I’m very anti-Winks as I don’t like what his way of playing stands for or his attitude.

[Marky mark]

Don’t care how good he was / is / thinks he is 

he dosent want to be here 

hopefully someone might be silly enough to give him 90 bags per week 

kind of hoping he’d run in to Cody at some point 

he can go back to the under 21s now 

[inckley fox]

25 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Yes bad attitude. Certainly not the way to conduct yourself as a professional. However, we need our best players. He was probably right about Cooper, RVN and MC.

If he's right about the next manager too, should we abide him putting in half-arsed performances and causing unrest behind the scenes? If all of the last three managers have been the problem, and not the application of the players they inherited, then is manager number four likely to be any different?

 

At some point we not only have to acknowledge that the manager isn't the biggest problem, but also grasp what that means. Good players will have to be excluded because they don't apply themselves, and occasionally they will come on and look better than the people who have supplanted them. But it doesn't stop said individuals being a fundamental part of the core problem, which is a cultural issue at the club, rather than one of technical ability.

 

Winks, like several others, has already shown himself to be a part of that problem. A relatively respectable display in a dreadful team performance shouldn't be enough for people to start saying 'the problem was manager a, b and c all along, and not Harry Winks.'

[funkyrobot]

6 minutes ago, Marky mark said:

Don’t care how good he was / is / thinks he is 

he dosent want to be here 

hopefully someone might be silly enough to give him 90 bags per week 

kind of hoping he’d run in to Cody at some point 

he can go back to the under 21s now 

You say that as if Coady is some sort of rock rather than a walking footballer who showed minimal defensive steel when he was with us.

[FoxinNotts]

Just now, inckley fox said:

If he's right about the next manager too, should we abide him putting in half-arsed performances and causing unrest behind the scenes? If all of the last three managers have been the problem, and not the application of the players they inherited, then is manager number four likely to be any different?

 

At some point we not only have to acknowledge that the manager isn't the biggest problem, but also grasp what that means. Good players will have to be excluded because they don't apply themselves, and occasionally they will come on and look better than the people who have supplanted them. But it doesn't stop said individuals being a fundamental part of the core problem, which is a cultural issue at the club, rather than one of technical ability.

 

Winks, like several others, has already shown himself to be a part of that problem. A relatively respectable display in a dreadful team performance shouldn't be enough for people to start saying 'the problem was manager a, b and c all along, and not Harry Winks.'

For the remainder of this season, and where we are at with players available to us, he should be starting every game he is available.

[Guppys Love Child]

21 minutes ago, Headcase said:

Ronaldo is a prima donna, you dont see managers sidelining him, due to not wanting to dleep a night at the training ground,  winks is one of our best players if not the best, give him what he wants. 

Until were safe, promoted, or whatever he will play his best ....then decide to keep or sell....because hes going to be worth way more if you indulge him...

Its a bit late now though

I can see your reasoning, but...

 

You indulge the mardy pr1ck just the once and he'll shift the goal posts (no pun) and keep on doing it.

 

Plus you can't set a precedence or you'll have the whole team taking the P1ss.

No one is bigger than club as the saying goes and giving him "privileged treatment " contravenes that.

 

He's paid a kings ransom anyway  he needs to start earning the "mother effer" and not pandering too.

[Product of 84]

You'd think relegation from the Championship would look pretty rubbish on his CV. Perhaps he will play a bit between now and the end of the season. After all he wants away and if he can't get a move right now he needs to secure a team for next season. I'm not sure how many clubs would be that interested in him.

[Raj]

Some of the comments in here are why this club is on its knees.

Some even saying give this cvnt what he want as long as he plays...how fecking dumb...🙄

[FoxinNotts]

14 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

You'd think relegation from the Championship would look pretty rubbish on his CV. Perhaps he will play a bit between now and the end of the season. After all he wants away and if he can't get a move right now he needs to secure a team for next season. I'm not sure how many clubs would be that interested in him.

This

[Marky mark]

29 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

You say that as if Coady is some sort of rock rather than a walking footballer who showed minimal defensive steel when he was with us.

Na they’d go in to a 50/50 

both a pair of cun&s 

[MGLCFC]

Everyone can have their opinions on what is right or wrong in regards Winks' situation, but for me we looked better today once he was introduced. Apart from James, he is our best midfielder IMO.

[FoxinNotts]

Fact is we won't be able to ship him out, due to our own stupidity on contracts 

New manager might as well use him

 

[beepee1984]

15 minutes ago, MGLCFC said:

Everyone can have their opinions on what is right or wrong in regards Winks' situation, but for me we looked better today once he was introduced. Apart from James, he is our best midfielder IMO.

I have to agree, although I can't condone his actions off the pitch - today he still looks composed and realistically is are best holding Midfielder - with him playing we can release James to play as a 2nd 8 when he is fit - how many goals and assists would James get if we played him higher

[Number 6]

Booed him on to the pitch. Will continue to boo him whenever he is selected.

[phoneticerror]

1 hour ago, MGLCFC said:

Yet we were far better in an attacking sense when he was on the pitch. 

And we’d be a lot better off being owned by the Saudi’s. Sometimes ethics matter.

[MGLCFC]

Just now, Number 6 said:

Booed him on to the pitch. Will continue to boo him whenever he is selected.

Even though we were better once he was introduced. With him playing we have a chance of survival. I take it you want us in this league.