Steve Cooper - New Manager

[coolhandfox]

11 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

how do you know if coady didnt concede that pen then we win? they were all over us.

So you don't think we would have more chance if we didn't conceded the penalty 

 

Well done sir.

[v6rat]

No Premier League wins in his last 15 matches for Forest before he got the sack, no wins in his first 4 Premier League matches with Leicester City.

 

Winless Premier League streak 19 and counting.

 

Indefensible.

Edited 14 September 2024 by v6rat

[coolhandfox]

13 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Throwing another defender on who's barely kicked a ball for us. He breeds negativity and ultimately it cost us

Does his job we win.

[foxfanazer]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

Does his job we win.

You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're just on a wind up

[winteriscoming]

There are so many better options than him. My worry is if we do get rid our stupid board will give it Southgate. 

[foxfanazer]

Oh wait am I missing something? Did Coady sub himself on?

[Arkie Bennett]

2 minutes ago, v6rat said:

No Premier League wins in his last 15 matches for Forest before he got the sack, no wins in his first 4 Premier League matches with Leicester City.

 

Winless Premier League streak 19 and counting.

 

In defensible.

Half a season's worth.

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're just on a wind up

So you don't think Coady should have dealt we the initial ball? 

 

I didn't have the best angle from in the ground but it looked easy enough for him to deal with.

 

 

Edited 14 September 2024 by coolhandfox

[foxfanazer]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

So you don't think Coady should have dealt we the initial ball? 

 

 

Of course he should. I also think he shouldn't have been on the pitch to make that mistake 

[Brizzle Fox]

14 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

So Coady doesn't have a brain fart we win.

 

We also gave the ball away in our own third for the first a minute after we scored.

 

Doesn't matter what tactics you play if players make massive errors.

 

Knee jerk reactions on here as always.

 

If he'd have brought on attacking players and we conceded people would be blame him for not shutting up shop.

 

 

Err he brought Coady on and also thought he was worthy of a place in the match day squad over Vesty.

 

The guy is out of his depth and only got the gig cos no other ****er wanted it with the points deduction hanging over our heads.

 

That situation has now changed so let's cut our cloth accordingly and move on from this poverty appointment. 

[Jakemoore]

No real blame attached to Cooper from me. Some of you lot just can’t get over his forest connections and you’re blinded by it. He could win us the league and you still wouldn’t be convinced. 
 

I didn’t like his choice of 11 again today but at 2-0 up he had got it right. We pressed them well and created the 3 best chances of that game at that point. Conceding straight after going 2 up isn’t coopers fault. Sending an extremely experienced CB on who got bullied by a kid half his size and then made a crap challenge in the box also isn’t his fault.
 

Could we have gone at them a bit more and tried to make it 1-3? Yes maybe. But that aside I’m not blaming cooper. There’s a culture of blaming the manager in football. Sometimes the players just need to make better decisions. 

[TrickyTrevLeftPeg]

The sad thing and the reality of the situation is .

 

Thousands of fans wouldn't have made them negative subs if they were in charge. Most would have made positive subs that would have provided an outlet up front.

 

He's too quick to concede ground instead of imposing ourselves on the opposition.

Edited 14 September 2024 by TrickyTrevLeftPeg

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Just now, Jakemoore said:

No real blame attached to Cooper from me. Some of you lot just can’t get over his forest connections and you’re blinded by it. He could win us the league and you still wouldn’t be convinced.

That was bollocks when Megson was manager and it's bollocks now.

 

It's crap going into games hoping for less than 1 point per game.

[lfu]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Does his job we win.

Coady hasn't shown any glimpses of being a PL-calibre defender in about 3 years

Why should Cooper not be given the blame for chucking him on to defend a 1 goal lead with over 20 minutes including stoppage time left to play?

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, Brizzle Fox said:

Err he brought Coady on and also thought he was worthy of a place in the match day squad over Vesty.

 

The guy is out of his depth and only got the gig cos no other ****er wanted it with the points deduction hanging over our heads.

 

That situation has now changed so let's cut our cloth accordingly and move on from this poverty appointment. 

So any mistake a players makes is the manager fault? 

 

 

 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, lfu said:

Coady hasn't shown any glimpses of being a PL-calibre defender in about 3 years

Why should Cooper not be given the blame for chucking him on to defend a 1 goal lead with over 20 minutes including stoppage time left to play?

He didn't even get games last season in the championship. Cooper should be able to identify that he ain't up to it

[Brizzle Fox]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Oh wait am I missing something? Did Coady sub himself on?

Yes he did. Took matters into his own hands. Nothing to do with Cooper.  

[Samilktray]

I think we need to stop with the ex Forest thing.

 

Steve Cooper isn't a crap manager because he's ex forest, he's a crap manager because he is quite simply just a crap manager. That's it. 

 

[Weller Wing]

4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Coadys fault today. If he doesn’t boot their lad in our area we win and are all saying how well Cooper has done.

 

shocking from a senior pro.

Shocking from Coady as an experienced player. 

Doesn't take away the fact we completely let them dominate the 2nd half.

 

You get the feeling that if we beat Everton next week they'll sack Dyche, our owners will think alls well and they'll stay up with us going down.

 

I'd get rid whatever happens next week 

[Brizzle Fox]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

So any mistake a players makes is the manager fault? 

 

 

 

As someone else said you're either being purposely obtuse or a bit thick.

 

Could be both though. 

[coolhandfox]

2 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

As someone else said you're either being purposely obtuse or a bit thick.

 

Could be both though. 

Answer the question? 

 

Is every mistake a player makes the managers fault?

 

Yes or no?

 

It's not that hard...

 

I'm not a Cooper fan but some total over reactions on here.

Edited 14 September 2024 by coolhandfox

[Jakemoore]

2 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

That was bollocks when Megson was manager and it's bollocks now.

 

It's crap going into games hoping for less than 1 point per game.

Who says we went in to the game hoping for less than anything in particular? Cooper picked the team he felt was best for the win. I didn’t like that team. But that team at 47 minutes gone was 2-0 up and should have seen it out. Someone gave the ball away in the middle of the park and we concede. The rest is history. 
 

Totally unfair to compare Megson and Cooper. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Our players did their bit...we just needed a manager to do his bit.

Textbook stuff on how draw a game from being 2 up

[Jakemoore]

5 minutes ago, TrickyTrevLeftPeg said:

The sad thing and the reality of the situation is .

 

Thousands of fans wouldn't have made them negative subs if they were in charge. Most would have made positive subs that would have provided an outlet up front.

 

He's too quick to concede ground instead of imposing ourselves on the opposition.

And committing men forward could have led to us losing the game. We’ll never know.

[Jakemoore]

Just now, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Our players did their bit...we just needed a manager to do his bit.

Textbook stuff on how draw a game from being 2 up

Absolute bollox. Clueless analysis. 
 

Oh wait no….Cooper gave a penalty away not Coady. I forgot.