Loans 2024/25

[moore_94]

32 minutes ago, LcFc_Smiv said:

How's Cover been getting on lately? Started the season well but it's been a bit quieter around him, potential option to recall and replace JJ if we're going to give youth a chance?

Been putting in some alright performances recently but Port Vale’s form has properly dropped off

 

Not sure he is good enough / ready enough to come in for JJ unfortunately

 

Probably needs to finish this season with Port Vale and then get a loan in League One next season

[moore_94]

Cannon’s goal

 

 

[Seventyseven]

I found myself at Stoke today with some family, Cannon is never going to be a premier league striker, he has a very poor touch. He’ll do ok in the Championship. 

[UniFox21]

49 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Been putting in some alright performances recently but Port Vale’s form has properly dropped off

 

Not sure he is good enough / ready enough to come in for JJ unfortunately

 

Probably needs to finish this season with Port Vale and then get a loan in League One next season

I'm really unsure where this suggestion Cover will jump from League 2 to Prem starter has come from.

Lads clearly doing well, but well enough to jump 3 leagues, I don't think so 

[honeybradger]

6 minutes ago, Seventyseven said:

I found myself at Stoke today with some family, Cannon is never going to be a premier league striker, he has a very poor touch. He’ll do ok in the Championship. 

I think we should sell while/if his stock is high. If we can get the £7mil we spent on him back that would be excellent.

[Noahfence]

50 minutes ago, Seventyseven said:

I found myself at Stoke today with some family, Cannon is never going to be a premier league striker, he has a very poor touch. He’ll do ok in the Championship. 

Well we might be needing him next season! 

[moore_94]

Todays Results - Sunday 29th December

 

Championship:

 

Tom Cannon (8.0 + 1 goal + 1 yellow card - 90 mins) - Stoke City 1-0 Sunderland

 

League One:

 

Silko Thomas (6.6 + 1 assist - 23 mins) - Wigan Athletic 1-2 Wrexham

 

Amani Richards (not in squad) - Exeter City 4-4 Crawley Town

 

League Two:

 

Brandon Cover (unused sub) - Port Vale 0-3 Grimsby

 

Chris Popov (not in squad) - Barrow 1-1 Tranmere

 

Scottish Prem:

 

Sammy Braybrooke (unused sub) - Dundee 2-1 St Mirren

[moore_94]

I would be looking to bring back both Amani Richards and Sammy Braybrooke from their loans and finding them new ones

 

Braybrooke although in the match day squad every week is getting zero minutes, and Richards appears to have fallen out of first team reckoning completely since his injury

 

A real shame about Souttar and Nelson as both of their loans had been going really well until they got injuries

 

Hopefully we get a couple of new loans for those mentioned above and a couple of others out on loan to make this thread a bit more interesting for the 2nd half of the season

Edited 29 December 2024 by moore_94

[Muzzy_no7]

That Braybrooke loan is a joke.

 

Should’ve gone league one. 

[AjcW]

2 hours ago, Seventyseven said:

I found myself at Stoke today with some family.

Bless you 

[Lesta2014]

Cannon and  Silko Thomas could be in squad next season if we get relegated. 

[Jimmy]

a Tom Cannon review from a Stokie on another forum

 

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Still a weird one to judge. His overall play isn't anything special and his finishing can be hit and miss. But his movement is good, he gets himself into position to miss chances even with the limitations of our shite team and he has scored a decent number of goals in the context of the poor service he's received.

Although even his goal tally is a little tricky to read. Four of those goals came in one game against Portsmouth and there have been quite a lot of penalties. Take those out and his tally isn't as impressive. Although still comfortably better than anything else that's masqueraded as a 'striker' for Stoke on recent years.

It's hard to judge whether his limitations are genuine failings of his, or is he being brought down by being surrounded by such poor players and management which is forcing him to have to try things that aren't his strengths? Whilst at the same time getting few opportunities to show what he's really good at.

In summary, I think taking into account the difficult situation he's in at a struggling club constantly changing managers with limited players and a constant cloud of doom over everything at the club, he's actually doing quite well. I suspect there's more to come from him and in a more confident team with better players he'd really excel. I'd definitely want to keep him because if we can get the right manager and strengthen in the right areas in January there's still a chance he could really catch fire.

I absolutely don't think you should recall him and use him in the Premier League though. I don't think he's ready for that and isn't sharp enough or confident enough to be plunged into a Premier League relegation battle. I think he'd struggle badly and would harm his development and possibly turn the Leicester fans against him which could harm him if you get relegated and try to use him in The Championship next season. I think he'd be better off serving out his sentence here and gaining some valuable experience of how to feed off scraps and fight for points in a difficult situation where lots of things aren't in your favour. Then next season either use him if you get relegated, or loan him out to a top Championship club who are likely to be in the promotion hunt and can hopefully give him a better opportunity to develop his game in more favourable surroundings.

 

[JimJams]

Given that they've now gotten rid of their manager and Shawcross is currently in charge, he might get exposed to a more complimentary setup for his abilities, so recalling him now would likely be a mistake.  Especially if we need to sell players, with Souttar no longer one we can claw anything back on. 

[Jimmy]

1 minute ago, JimJams said:

Given that they've now gotten rid of their manager and Shawcross is currently in charge, he might get exposed to a more complimentary setup for his abilities, so recalling him now would likely be a mistake.  Especially if we need to sell players, with Souttar no longer one we can claw anything back on. 

unless its to sell him why would we recall him? if anything we want to be shedding a striker on loan (or selling Daka) not bringing back Cannon when he wouldn't play

[JimJams]

1 minute ago, Jimmy said:

unless its to sell him why would we recall him? if anything we want to be shedding a striker on loan (or selling Daka) not bringing back Cannon when he wouldn't play

You just have to read through some of the threads to see people saying we should bring him back.  Generally coincides with Daka doing something wrong or Vardy having an off one.  Don't forget we want rid of Edouard. 

[moore_94]

Only reason I would be looking to recall Cannon is if we are able to get him a loan at a better team in the Championship - I don't think he is ready yet to be a decent enough option for us in the Prem (or whether he ever will be) - that issue needs to be resolved by binning off Edouard and getting someone new

 

I probably wouldn't be looking to recall and sell him in January either

 

Leave him in the Championship for the rest of the season (whether with Stoke or someone else) and then in the summer make a decision

 

Keep to be our striker if we get relegated, look to sell if we stay up

[Lambert09]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DELD12Cs0JJ/?igsh=MWp5MjFsNnVoY29kNg==
 

must be a bad one 

[moore_94]

If Cannon does stay at Stoke then Robins is a good manager for him to be playing under

 

 

[Sunbury Fox]

3 hours ago, moore_94 said:

If Cannon does stay at Stoke then Robins is a good manager for him to be playing under

 

 

Looks like Stoke might have finally made a good managerial appointment. 

[moore_94]

Todays Results - Wednesday 1st January

 

Championship:

 

Tom Cannon (6.5 - 79 mins) - Stoke City 0-0 Burnley

 

League One:

 

Amani Richards (not in squad) - Exeter City 1-2 Wycombe Wanderers

 

League Two:

 

Brandon Cover (7.6 + clean sheet - 90 mins) - Port Vale 0-0 Cheltenham Town

 

Chris Popov (not in squad) - Barrow 2-2 Bradford City

 

National League:

 

Brad Young (unused sub) - Hartlepool United 2-1 Oldham

[Ian Nacho]

5 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Todays Results - Wednesday 1st January

 

Championship:

 

Tom Cannon (6.5 - 79 mins) - Stoke City 0-0 Burnley

 

League One:

 

Amani Richards (not in squad) - Exeter City 1-2 Wycombe Wanderers

 

League Two:

 

Brandon Cover (7.6 + clean sheet - 90 mins) - Port Vale 0-0 Cheltenham Town

 

Chris Popov (not in squad) - Barrow 2-2 Bradford City

 

National League:

 

Brad Young (unused sub) - Hartlepool United 2-1 Oldham

Popov seems to be nowhere near the squad anymore.

[Lesta2014]

11 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

Popov seems to be nowhere near the squad anymore.

Both popov and Richards loans seem to have been unsuccessful, get them back this month and see if can get a loan where both will actually play. 

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, Lesta2014 said:

Both popov and Richards loans seem to have been unsuccessful, get them back this month and see if can get a loan where both will actually play. 

And Braybrooke. Get him back too.

 

Annoying that of the 3 that were going well (Nelson, Souttar and Cannon), 2 of them got bad injuries! 

[Lesta2014]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

And Braybrooke. Get him back too.

 

Annoying that of the 3 that were going well (Nelson, Souttar and Cannon), 2 of them got bad injuries! 

Forgot about braybrooke! Dundee are on sky tonight so if he starts il tune in. 

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, Lesta2014 said:

Forgot about braybrooke! Dundee are on sky tonight so if he starts il tune in. 

He’s played a grand total of 20 minutes in two sub appearances (16 minutes and 4 minutes) since the end of October. He has been fit and been on the bench every week.

 

So the chances he plays at all tonight are massively unlikely.

 

It was an awful level of football anyway and an odd loan. The only redeeming factor to it would have been regular minutes week in week out and that has not happened so it’s pointless him staying there. He needs minutes so just find him a club that’ll give that even if it is further down the ladder than we’d like.