Cooper - OUT

[fox_favourite]

10 minutes ago, Micky said:

No thanks. I'd sooner watch the game than listen to some randomer on YouTube (of which their are millions). 

Then you're closing your mind to facts and other opinions, and that is quite disappointing. 

[ShepshedFox1884]

Annoying thing for me is people’s constant negativity about sacking him yet we are 13th in the league who gives a shit if we have been lucky if he needs to be sacked it’s not because we think our luck will eventually run out but at the point where it does. A lot of our miserable fans thought that we would get less points than Derby so give it a rest 

[Muzzy_no7]

Unfortunately there seems to be some on here and Leicester fans in general that seem content with slipping into being this yo-yo side again and that we should be grateful for being here.

 

No.

 

Since the mid 90’s only 5 other English teams have achieved more than us.

 

We should not be settling, F this mentality.

 

Our team and squad is better than Ipswich, Wolves, So’ton, Everton and Palace.

 

Fulham, B’mouth, Brentford and Forest you could easily argue are not to dissimilar to us in squad quality so why should we settle for 17th playing scared football with no medium to long term project?! 
 

9pts from the fixtures we have had is slightly below par, for me. Add this to the style, amount of luck and discontent being leaked then fans are MORE than in their right to publicise their opinions. 
 

Brandishing people as ‘always negative’ and ‘some of the opinions on here’ posts is just lazy and fishing. 

[Simonb]

Been against him since he signed. I'm still in the Cooper out brigade because I feel we're one pasting away from a bad run.

 

However, that being said, I'm going to try and give him the benefit of the doubt. We've clung on in games and picked up some points. At least for the next 3 games in the league (yes Inc yanited away) I'm going to support him as these are all winnable. The squad in the last couple of games look reasonably happy and settled so no changes until mid November at least. Didn't think we'd be 6 clear of the bottom 3 at any point. Least of all, 7 games In. Hopefully gets a few more on board before we play Chelsea, Liverpool and citeh. We're actually doing OK.

 

On a side note.. I fancy Southampton to go close to Derbys record.  You can't throw a 2-0 home lead away against us in this league .. don't see where they get a win for a long time now

[Graceroad]

2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Unfortunately there seems to be some on here and Leicester fans in general that seem content with slipping into being this yo-yo side again and that we should be grateful for being here.

 

No.

 

Since the mid 90’s only 5 other English teams have achieved more than us.

 

We should not be settling, F this mentality.

 

Our team and squad is better than Ipswich, Wolves, So’ton, Everton and Palace.

 

Fulham, B’mouth, Brentford and Forest you could easily argue are not to dissimilar to us in squad quality so why should we settle for 17th playing scared football with no medium to long term project?! 
 

9pts from the fixtures we have had is slightly below par, for me. Add this to the style, amount of luck and discontent being leaked then fans are MORE than in their right to publicise their opinions. 
 

Brandishing people as ‘always negative’ and ‘some of the opinions on here’ posts is just lazy and fishing. 

This is your opinion  which you are entitled to but stop making out that its a fact 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Unfortunately there seems to be some on here and Leicester fans in general that seem content with slipping into being this yo-yo side again and that we should be grateful for being here.

…. 

 I doubt this is true.

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, Micky said:

And this is where people are deluded. We are not the team we once were. We are a bottom end Premier league team and there will be plenty of games where we are hanging on this season. We were never going to come into this league and dominate teams. The fact that we have been in every game this season is huge credit to Cooper. 

deluded?  sounds like you are tbf; you must watch the games with your eyes closed,

im purely going on what ive seen from Cooper in regards is tactics/player selection etc, the players have shown they are more than good enough already this season imo, we had some really good spell against Spurs, Villa, Palace, Bournemouth, Southampton

did i say dominate? no, we give teams too many chances, look back at the games and not just the highlights ffs, far too open at times at the back; not changing things early enough in games, the right hand side issue

we have been in every game.....but hanging on, look back at them, as said in this thread already look at @StriderHiryubreak down of Cooper's tactics etc, youll see hes not good enough

and your saying huge credit to cooper? really? more like huge credit to Hermansen

and when forest fans say they kept hold of him for too long, then something up, cos they love the guy

 

but i guess cos we was in league 1 in 2008 we should know our place etc

Edited 20 October 2024 by FrankieADZ

[ealingfox]

32 minutes ago, Micky said:

No thanks. I'd sooner watch the game than listen to some randomer on YouTube (of which their are millions). 

 

Minutes after accusing others of a lack of realisation and understanding. Good stuff.

[ealingfox]

14 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

 I doubt this is true.

 

It's every bit as true as the assertion that because some people don't rate the manager they must want us to lose every week.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, ealingfox said:

 

It's every bit as true as the assertion that because some people don't rate the manager they must want us to lose every week.

Yes, can see the comparison and would argue both conclusions are polarisation at their worst.

[dr.o.ball]

25 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

These two wins have been huge and I’m slowly coming around to the fact he might be able to galvanise us and I’m now reminding myself of how I reasoned he could he a good appointment. If he sorts the issue at right back then I could he well on the way. He seems to be learning about not being so negative in his selections, and also making good use of the bench and squad.

 

It was pretty grim before the season started. We’d had a poor pre season and I wasn’t impressed with signings or the squad. However it is better than I thought at that point. I do think we still rely to much on Vardy (Edouard looks poor so far), but good to see others chipping in with goals as well. That and the right back issue are the biggest concerns for me, but as I say I’m slowing coming around. The players seem to be playing for him as well which is huge, or if they’re not they’re covering it reasonably well or taking some initiative.

I'm slowly coming round to how single minded/unconditionally biased this overhyped Cooper Out thread is. And boring. He has the dressing room, despite threads about him losing the players. Back your F-ing manager and stop spouting silly shit like, 'l'd sooner lose 4.0 if it gets him fired'. Come on Fox's we're just the best fans and LCFC has had such brilliant times lately. Celebrate the wins and good times, please. 

[JimJams]

Battling hyperbole with hyperbole.  Bravo.

[dannythefox]

I actually don’t want him out but he’s not helping himself, now we got lucky yesterday with JJ at fault for the 2 goals and with most goals coming from the right he needs to give Ricardo a game, while JJ is a good player Ricky is better when 100% fit 

[ealingfox]

I'm not convinced and still don't rate him, but we've got our heads above water at the moment and that's good. It's fair to say that because goals are the ultimate currency and we are scoring them he must be doing some things right. Obviously brilliant result yesterday and great scenes, and regardless of how we got into the situation he deserves credit for making the subs and whatever was said at half time.

 

Remains the case that our defensive numbers are pretty alarming though, and we have had decent fixtures so far, with only 1 of our 6 'free hits' (Arsenal Lpool and Man City home and away) endured. On this basis I do think we're vulnerable to a horror run and if the goals dry up we're stuffed.

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

I actually don’t want him out but he’s not helping himself, now we got lucky yesterday with JJ at fault for the 2 goals and with most goals coming from the right he needs to give Ricardo a game, while JJ is a good player Ricky is better when 100% fit 

Did I hear him say yesterday that we should expect to see Ricardo very soon? 

[Muzzy Elliot]

1 hour ago, ElusiveEd said:

With that understanding, Mrs Cooper joined FoxesTalk in 2004 and has made over 1.2 thousand posts.

 

She must be a die hard LCFC fan on top of being able to see well into the future to know her husband would one day manage us. 

Very good Mrs Micky 

[jayfox26]

I never wanted him and still don't think he's he's right man for the job but he does come across as a decent bloke so I've nothing against him personally and whilst results are good, even if the performances/luck is questionable, then we'll back him. Does still worry me if there is discontent in the dressing room and it's sad that one of our best players and longest serving players, Ricardo has been frozen out. 

[Mon.is.a.god]

1 hour ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Brandishing people as ‘always negative’ and ‘some of the opinions on here’ posts is just lazy and fishing. 

It is negative though. You’re on a forum after 2 wins on the trot raging and venting about this and that. Can’t you just enjoy the moment regardless of if you have issues with the manager? I know I can! 

 

The thought of being angry after 2 wins on the trot says everything and anything about you. I’m enjoying it whilst it lasts!

 

There is a time and place to vent and be genuinely frustrated and call for the managers head aka Brendan in his last season.

 

But I just think modern football fans are inherently negative with short fuses. I don’t want to call you out, but you were one of many calling for Maresca to be sacked last season whilst we were top of the league! Look at those poll results! The same fans are now reminiscing over him. Fickle!

 

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Edited 20 October 2024 by Mon.is.a.god

[Mon.is.a.god]

21 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Still Cooper out. 

What a surprise, you were also Enzo out whilst we were sitting top of the championship!

 

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[Mon.is.a.god]

On 10/08/2024 at 16:36, Sly said:

This might seem a bit radical

This might seem a bit extreme

I’ve seen enough and he needs to go before  the season even starts.

This pre season has been awful. 

And another…….

 

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[Muzzy_no7]

16 minutes ago, Mon.is.a.god said:

It is negative though. You’re on a forum after 2 wins on the trot raging and venting about this and that. Can’t you just enjoy the moment regardless of if you have issues with the manager? I know I can! 

 

The thought of being angry after 2 wins on the trot says everything and anything about you. I’m enjoying it whilst it lasts!

 

There is a time and place to vent and be genuinely frustrated and call for the managers head aka Brendan in his last season.

 

But I just think modern football fans are inherently negative with short fuses. I don’t want to call you out, but you were one of many calling for Maresca to be sacked last season whilst we were top of the league! Look at those poll results! The same fans are now reminiscing over him. Fickle!

 

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The form end of last year from Enzo was disgraceful. Large swathes wanted him out at that point so handpicking stuff like this doesn’t really do anything for you.

 

 

[inckley fox]

55 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Unfortunately there seems to be some on here and Leicester fans in general that seem content with slipping into being this yo-yo side again and that we should be grateful for being here.

 

No.

 

Since the mid 90’s only 5 other English teams have achieved more than us.

 

We should not be settling, F this mentality.

 

Our team and squad is better than Ipswich, Wolves, So’ton, Everton and Palace.

 

Fulham, B’mouth, Brentford and Forest you could easily argue are not to dissimilar to us in squad quality so why should we settle for 17th playing scared football with no medium to long term project?! 
 

9pts from the fixtures we have had is slightly below par, for me. Add this to the style, amount of luck and discontent being leaked then fans are MORE than in their right to publicise their opinions. 
 

Brandishing people as ‘always negative’ and ‘some of the opinions on here’ posts is just lazy and fishing. 

It's not about settling, it's just about being realistic when it comes to expectations of a new boss with a newly promoted side after a tumultuous summer.

 

It seems too easy when people say that the players have shown they're good enough, as if that doesn't also reflect positively on the manager. There may be ability in the squad, but many of these players came down with us eighteen months ago, and since then we've lost three of that squad's most saleable talents. We were not in promotion form for the second half of last season, and Southampton's return in the PL from the sort of expansive approach that many longed to see from us should have been indicators that we need a more pragmatic approach. I'm far from convinced that you can expect possession-based football or a mid-table finish from a squad like ours, with its track record, in Year One.

 

It doesn't mean I don't share your ambitions further down the line, nor that I have no doubts that Cooper will end up being the man for that task.

 

But the business of debating these things has been so overwhelmed by negativity and absurdly dismissive statements about the manager - prejudices which caused some fans to refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that he could be up for the job, and led others to will a trouncing on us just to be shot of him - that it seems too hard now to get any balance. Claiming he's vindicated after two wins seems almost as hasty as those who wrote him off in record time. But you'll get that sort of thing when people seem so hellbent on it all going wrong.

 

Even so, recent results should at very least be a reminder that it doesn't hurt to keep an open mind when things are at an early stage.

[dr.o.ball]

100% and I find a lot if fans, at the match, don't actually feel as bad about Cooper as this forum would suggest. 

[majaco]

Is there any truth that the forum's names is being changed from Foxes Talk to Toxic Talk?

[TheUltimateWinner]

He’s not going anywhere anytime soon so whether you like him or not, now is the time to get behind him and the squad.

 

It may not feel like it at times but somehow, we are in a stable position. 
 

I’ve personally flip flopped between wanting him gone or not, it’s a good job I’m not the chairman as we’d be in crisis