Cooper - OUT

[Viva]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

well hes had 8 games now(league and cup) i think the one wanting him out before a game had been played jumped the gun so to speak and should always give a manager a bit of a chance, but think its fair to say no after 8 games hes not upto the job, learnt anything being away from the game or during his time at Forest, 

the real last straw for me was him parking the bus on the 75min at Palace, 

 

cant wait for him to start Ayew instead of Fatawu, JJ over Ricardo and Faes and Vesty next week, 3 pilars of the team last season not remotely getting a looking in, even tho the Fatawu and Vesty imo did alright against Spurs 

 

but once again another manager playing favourites as well

Another manager picking players he thinks suits his system better. That’s unusual isn’t it. 
We’ve played three top 6 teams, Fulham away who are currently sat in the top 6, Palace away and Everton who are a lot better than their points total suggests. Not any easy start, yet we’ve picked up points in half the matches and have been in every match up to 90 mins. 
Whichever manager we had this season, it was always going to be a struggle with this squad. 
Should Ipswich be thinking of sacking McKenna if they lose today? 

[Samilktray]

2 minutes ago, Viva said:

Another manager picking players he thinks suits his system better. That’s unusual isn’t it. 
We’ve played three top 6 teams, Fulham away who are currently sat in the top 6, Palace away and Everton who are a lot better than their points total suggests. Not any easy start, yet we’ve picked up points in half the matches and have been in every match up to 90 mins. 
Whichever manager we had this season, it was always going to be a struggle with this squad. 
Should Ipswich be thinking of sacking McKenna if they lose today? 

What's his system?

[lestuhfox]

2 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

What's his system?

Hes no tactician. 

Hes trying to create a tight group who give their all on the park.

One thing he had at Forest was a set of fans giving their all.

We don't have that here.

We have been spoilt. 

Reality is we have missed our chance of being something in football with the needless relegation 2 years ago.

We are back to the Leicester City we have been for most of our history.

Back the lads.

 

[The Doctor]

14 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Seeing a lot defending him on facebook.

Hardly surprising that the people who still use facebook are of the league one mindset, that's where we were when it was last relevant tbf.

[SemperEadem]

5 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Hardly surprising that the people who still use facebook are of the league one mindset, that's where we were when it was last relevant tbf.

Some pretty famous names in this clubs folklore too.

[FrankieADZ]

2 minutes ago, Viva said:

Another manager picking players he thinks suits his system better. That’s unusual isn’t it. 
We’ve played three top 6 teams, Fulham away who are currently sat in the top 6, Palace away and Everton who are a lot better than their points total suggests. Not any easy start, yet we’ve picked up points in half the matches and have been in every match up to 90 mins. 
Whichever manager we had this season, it was always going to be a struggle with this squad. 
Should Ipswich be thinking of sacking McKenna if they lose today? 

suits his system better? what system, Fatawu did more in his one league start than Ayew has in his what 3/4 for us, Ayew shouldnt be starting certain winnable games, hes nowhere near as good or creative as Fatawu

lets be right tho Fulham wont be top 6, but even so, Palace away imo had he not parked the bus at 75min and maybe did that at say 85min i do believe we'd have probably won, everton we was god awful but it should be a game we look to win

thing is performances have been anywhere near good enough, might have got points against some of these teams(everton and spurs) but look at it, these teams have been some golden chances against us, both could been 3-0 down at HT

 

and struggle with this squad, are you serious? a good number of that team have premier league experience and not just lower end, 

and the ones who hadnt have shown they are decent enough for the step up imo, so i do believe yes it could have been a struggle but not as bad as Cooper is making it

 

and come on comparing Cooper to McKenna,

 

McKenna has took ipswich from League 1 to the premier league in 2 and a bit seasons, none of the ippy fans expected to be in the premier league, he has alot of money in the bank with performances etc

 

while Cooper, has none of that, not even performances etc, come on we just the other day got outclassed in every single aspect by Walsall

[Viva]

5 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Hardly surprising that the people who still use facebook are of the league one mindset, that's where we were when it was last relevant tbf.

I like to ask the question to some on here, but was you an Enzo out fan? 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, Viva said:

I like to ask the question to some on here, but was you an Enzo out fan? 

may i ask, do you fully watch the games or just the highlights? 

[Viva]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

suits his system better? what system, Fatawu did more in his one league start than Ayew has in his what 3/4 for us, Ayew shouldnt be starting certain winnable games, hes nowhere near as good or creative as Fatawu

lets be right tho Fulham wont be top 6, but even so, Palace away imo had he not parked the bus at 75min and maybe did that at say 85min i do believe we'd have probably won, everton we was god awful but it should be a game we look to win

thing is performances have been anywhere near good enough, might have got points against some of these teams(everton and spurs) but look at it, these teams have been some golden chances against us, both could been 3-0 down at HT

 

and struggle with this squad, are you serious? a good number of that team have premier league experience and not just lower end, 

and the ones who hadnt have shown they are decent enough for the step up imo, so i do believe yes it could have been a struggle but not as bad as Cooper is making it

 

and come on comparing Cooper to McKenna,

 

McKenna has took ipswich from League 1 to the premier league in 2 and a bit seasons, none of the ippy fans expected to be in the premier league, he has alot of money in the bank with performances etc

 

while Cooper, has none of that, not even performances etc, come on we just the other day got outclassed in every single aspect by Walsall

I’m not remotely suggesting Ipswich should sack McKenna. The fact of the matter is that they are below us in the table and will have had a worse start than us. 
All three Championship clubs are struggling as anyone should have predicted. There is a massive gulf between the two leagues. 
Tell me Premier League team apart from Southampton and Ipswich where we have a better squad? 

[lestuhfox]

3 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

suits his system better? what system, Fatawu did more in his one league start than Ayew has in his what 3/4 for us, Ayew shouldnt be starting certain winnable games, hes nowhere near as good or creative as Fatawu

lets be right tho Fulham wont be top 6, but even so, Palace away imo had he not parked the bus at 75min and maybe did that at say 85min i do believe we'd have probably won, everton we was god awful but it should be a game we look to win

thing is performances have been anywhere near good enough, might have got points against some of these teams(everton and spurs) but look at it, these teams have been some golden chances against us, both could been 3-0 down at HT

 

and struggle with this squad, are you serious? a good number of that team have premier league experience and not just lower end, 

and the ones who hadnt have shown they are decent enough for the step up imo, so i do believe yes it could have been a struggle but not as bad as Cooper is making it

 

and come on comparing Cooper to McKenna,

 

McKenna has took ipswich from League 1 to the premier league in 2 and a bit seasons, none of the ippy fans expected to be in the premier league, he has alot of money in the bank with performances etc

 

while Cooper, has none of that, not even performances etc, come on we just the other day got outclassed in every single aspect by Walsall

You mention the Walsall game at the end.

Did you go v Tranmere or were you one of the 20 000 who stayed at home.

2 cup games v League 2 opponents.

Tranmere we were excellent for 90 minutes. 

Walsall we were the exact opposite for 90 minutes. 

You know what though, cup football isn't about performances, it's about getting through and that we have done on both occasions in different ways.

[Viva]

4 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

may i ask, do you fully watch the games or just the highlights? 

I’m a season ticket holder. Don’t go to away matches. 

[izzymuzzet]

I find his post match interviews incredibly depressing. He spent most of them yesterday moaning about the ref after we’d conceded about 35 shots and would have been completely tonked were it not for Hermansen. A little self reflection on why we gave up the ball so easily and created almost nothing would be welcome.

[SK3Blue]

29 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Seeing a lot defending him on facebook.

‘Sick of all these Cooper out posts, live, laugh, love, just me an’ the kids from now on’

[marcymarc666]

What is it with deluded people on here !

You can clearly see that after the first few games that we don't have a strong squad. We don't even even have a player who particularly stands out. It wouldn't matter who replaces this guy, we'll still struggle this year. You can clearly see that he's trying to create a seige mentality to survive, but that takes time, its a mind set.

We chased and chased yesterday and nearly got a point, it was a gallant effort,  because that's all we can do against top teams these days, if we try to out pass through them they'll walk through us.

Back the manager and the team because only hard work and some luck will keep us up this year.

 

[Viva]

7 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

may i ask, do you fully watch the games or just the highlights? 

I would never be up for sacking a manager when we are top of the table by 6 or 7 points! 

[lestuhfox]

1 minute ago, Viva said:

I’m a season ticket holder. Don’t go to away matches. 

Open your mouth next week and create an atmosphere. 

Help make our home harder for the opposition and make our players run, tackle, fight that little bit % more that could help give us a positive result.

[Viva]

1 minute ago, marcymarc666 said:

What is it with deluded people on here !

You can clearly see that after the first few games that we don't have a strong squad. We don't even even have a player who particularly stands out. It wouldn't matter who replaces this guy, we'll still struggle this year. You can clearly see that he's trying to create a seige mentality to survive, but that takes time, its a mind set.

We chased and chased yesterday and nearly got a point, it was a gallant effort,  because that's all we can do against top teams these days, if we try to out pass through them they'll walk through us.

Back the manager and the team because only hard work and some luck will keep us up this year.

 

Well said. 

[Happy Fox]

We don’t have time to create a siege mentality it will be too late and we will be cut adrift in the bottom 3. Just go all out for a decent manager at this level, it’s not too much to ask for. We can get someone decent and stay up quite comfortably. 
 

Cooper is dogshite.
 

[AjcW]

“Disappointed by the referee again”

 

**** off mate, should of been about 24-2 even before errors you absolute spanner  

 

Absolutely disgusting to concede that many chances at any level, stats looked like an FA Cup third round game between Man City and a semi pro side. 

[FrankieADZ]

3 minutes ago, Viva said:

I’m not remotely suggesting Ipswich should sack McKenna. The fact of the matter is that they are below us in the table and will have had a worse start than us. 
All three Championship clubs are struggling as anyone should have predicted. There is a massive gulf between the two leagues. 
Tell me Premier League team apart from Southampton and Ipswich where we have a better squad? 

1 minute ago, Viva said:

I’m a season ticket holder. Don’t go to away matches. 

of course Ipswich are, have you seen whos theyve played the first 5 matches,  Liverpool then City, and they played Brighton away the other week too, and Fulham as well, alot harder start imo 

Personally believe we have a squad as good as say a team like Brentford, Everton, if used correctly

so do you believe some of the home performances have been good enough? as frankly that Everton one, we was god awful

 

1 minute ago, lestuhfox said:

You mention the Walsall game at the end.

Did you go v Tranmere or were you one of the 20 000 who stayed at home.

2 cup games v League 2 opponents.

Tranmere we were excellent for 90 minutes. 

Walsall we were the exact opposite for 90 minutes. 

You know what though, cup football isn't about performances, it's about getting through and that we have done on both occasions in different ways.

i did, yeah they was good, tbf Tranmere & Walsall could have easily got more 

the point im making tho, is the performances werent there, we wasnt good enough, i know its about getting through but us playing shit against a L2 side doesnt give much confidence to the players no does it

[The Doctor]

Just now, marcymarc666 said:

What is it with deluded people on here !

You can clearly see that after the first few games that we don't have a strong squad. We don't even even have a player who particularly stands out. It wouldn't matter who replaces this guy, we'll still struggle this year. You can clearly see that he's trying to create a seige mentality to survive, but that takes time, its a mind set.

We chased and chased yesterday and nearly got a point, it was a gallant effort,  because that's all we can do against top teams these days, if we try to out pass through them they'll walk through us.

Back the manager and the team because only hard work and some luck will keep us up this year.

 

Only Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal and Us have scored in every single game. When we've gone behind and the players have had to abandon this Abersywth Allardyces crimes against football and actually go for the game, we've looked able to challenge in this league. It won't happen unless we get a manager who is prepared to actually utilise his squad properly rather than having his good attackers playing 3 minutes a match while Ayew and Reid can stink the place out though. He's creating a siege mentality by just blaming the referee 24/7 because he needs distractions from his god awful tactics.

[DezFox]

As expected, this is the problem. Due to the score line and the timings. Our owners like much of the media narrative will see yesterday as a positive and a win. Its simply not the case. Despite arsenals complete domination, yesterday has brought Steve cooper credit in the bank and it’s seriously worrying. 

[winteriscoming]

8 games in and we’ve got 1 win in 90 mins against Tranmere. Having played Walsall, Palace, Everton and Fulham. 
Get rid now. 

[FrankieADZ]

6 minutes ago, marcymarc666 said:

What is it with deluded people on here !

You can clearly see that after the first few games that we don't have a strong squad. We don't even even have a player who particularly stands out. It wouldn't matter who replaces this guy, we'll still struggle this year. You can clearly see that he's trying to create a seige mentality to survive, but that takes time, its a mind set.

We chased and chased yesterday and nearly got a point, it was a gallant effort,  because that's all we can do against top teams these days, if we try to out pass through them they'll walk through us.

Back the manager and the team because only hard work and some luck will keep us up this year.

 

the only siege mentality most of us can see from Cooper atm, is blaming the officials, like the 2 decisions yesterday would have changed the outcome

 

im not saying we'd been top 10 at all, but with the right person in charge i do think we could be around 15th place, as the players have already shown they are capable enough in spells this season

 

oh and chased and chased yesterday, i fully know and expected us to lose yesterday, but frankly the stats cant cover it up, Arsenal had nearly 40 attempts on goal, mads made the most saves by a keeper in a game since what 2017

only player to come out with credit for me is Mads, 

 

should we clap the players when we go down again like 22/23 too?

[Daggers]

Club gets what club deserves. It has a shit owner, shit management team, a shit DoF, shit head coach, shit new players, and a fan base that is mostly laughably shit who sit about moaning over fans who actually create an atmosphere.

 

It's like a retirement home for football, where everything stinks of stale piss and tedium - and don't the players look really young nowadays.

 

"We won the cup donchaknow. Yes, played in League 1 once. Is my Nigel here to see me yet? What? No, my battery is low. I've soiled myself again, nurse."

Edited 29 September 2024 by Daggers