Jeremy Monga

[JimJams]

33 minutes ago, phildw said:

There's a huge difference between Youth and Premier League football but he looks promising to be fair so he probably won't be with us long. 

I think people forget this.  Or it's like shiny new toy syndrome.  Carlos Borges (Forbs) absolutely tore shit up at youth level.  Ajax took him, he's flopped.  Loaned to Wolves, can barely get a kick in an under-performing side.  Will likely go back to Ajax without triggering the obligation.

 

 

 

I'd happily take the fxxker next season though.

[K789]

He looks a really big lad for not just a 15 yesr old but a 20 year old

[honeybradger]

5 minutes ago, JimJams said:

I think people forget this.  Or it's like shiny new toy syndrome.  Carlos Borges (Forbs) absolutely tore shit up at youth level.  Ajax took him, he's flopped.  Loaned to Wolves, can barely get a kick in an under-performing side.  Will likely go back to Ajax without triggering the obligation.

 

 

 

I'd happily take the fxxker next season though.

Carlos Borges flopped but Ocar Bobb, Mcatee, Cole Palmer have done well.

[JimJams]

1 minute ago, honeybradger said:

Carlos Borges flopped but Ocar Bobb, Mcatee, Cole Palmer have done well.

I suppose I'll take them as well.

[Sly]

He’s never getting that amount of space against competent players. Bizarrely, I’m not sure you get that much space in League 2! 
 

One thing being a stand out player at such a young age, it’s another stepping into adult football and making an impact. 
 

I know people like to say he’ll be better than Ayew and BDDR, however play them against the dross at youth level and they’d look ridiculous. 
 

The game has levels. 
 

We’ve all Got one. 

[ACF]

37 minutes ago, Sly said:

He’s never getting that amount of space against competent players. Bizarrely, I’m not sure you get that much space in League 2! 
 

One thing being a stand out player at such a young age, it’s another stepping into adult football and making an impact. 
 

I know people like to say he’ll be better than Ayew and BDDR, however play them against the dross at youth level and they’d look ridiculous. 
 

The game has levels. 
 

We’ve all Got one. 

Which I think speaks to the heart of our development pathways - the young lads aren’t challenged enough to be able to breakthrough.

Braybrooke, Silko and Amari have not had consistent game time, Wanya is earning a spot back after injury. Players like Popov who tear it up at youth level, are struggling. Whilst obviously I want our players to be playing 90 mins a week, part of me think this is not a bad thing, let’s find out why they’re not playing and help them get better.
 

It shows them what they’re missing to get in the team, not just that they’re the “next big thing” and to stop believing their own hype. 

 
Monga can’t go on loan, but I want to see him challenged. 

[Greg2607]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

He’s never getting that amount of space against competent players. Bizarrely, I’m not sure you get that much space in League 2! 
 

One thing being a stand out player at such a young age, it’s another stepping into adult football and making an impact. 
 

I know people like to say he’ll be better than Ayew and BDDR, however play them against the dross at youth level and they’d look ridiculous. 
 

The game has levels. 
 

We’ve all Got one. 

I agree.  I played in the youth teams with Matt Piper and Matt Heath.  I was a "solid" player, but ultimately reached my level and was released. 

 

In the younger age groups, I wasn't out of my depths, I pretty much went toe to toe and they didn't necessarily "stand out" (they were clearly good!)

 

Then as the levels went up, I couldn't make that step for some reason and yet they could.  Maybe I wasn't quite quick enough, or didnt read the game quite well enough, but they adapted and went on.... 

 

And that's two players who didn't even reach the pinnacle of the game. The gap between "good at U21" and "established PL player" is gargantuan. 

 

Now Monga looks like an exception to the rule... At 15 he shouldn't look THAT good in the 21's.... 

[DezFox]

Surely just give him a chance. Nothing to lose. Plus, if he is leaving, would this not up the compensation if he was one of our youngest ever players? I think he will be gone but might aswell embarrass our adult players and up his compo. 

[Greg2607]

Are there laws preventing someone playing in the first team at 15??? I genuinely don't know.... There are probably stipulations about using changing rooms and things separately.for safeguarding. 

[Old Fox]

24 minutes ago, DezFox said:

Surely just give him a chance. Nothing to lose. Plus, if he is leaving, would this not up the compensation if he was one of our youngest ever players? I think he will be gone but might aswell embarrass our adult players and up his compo. 

Only ruining a young footballers career …….so much more than just throwing him in as his welfare and development come first and the club despite being a car crash in many ways should not be throwing 15 year olds into the first team 

[reynard]

12 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Are there laws preventing someone playing in the first team at 15??? I genuinely don't know.... There are probably stipulations about using changing rooms and things separately.for safeguarding. 

Ashley Chambers played for us in the League Cup (possibly)  at the age of 15 a few years back now.  

[jayfox26]

Maybe a daft question but with Monga being in school, would he be allowed to be in the squad for the Man U game? Our highly paid and pampered pros Probably spend time at the sauna and jacuzzi at the training ground before the Man U game whilst Monga is doing algebra and physics or what other shite they do in school these days 

[Ric Flair]

28 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Are there laws preventing someone playing in the first team at 15??? I genuinely don't know.... There are probably stipulations about using changing rooms and things separately.for safeguarding. 

Ethan Nwaneri played for Arsenal when he was 15. Monga is considered as good if not better at the same age. We've not had a player this good in our academy, doesn't mean he'll go on to be the most successful but his talent is frightening.

[Greg2607]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Ethan Nwaneri played for Arsenal when he was 15. Monga is considered as good if not better at the same age. We've not had a player this good in our academy, doesn't mean he'll go on to be the most successful but his talent is frightening.

Entirely agree with you. 

[DezFox]

24 minutes ago, Old Fox said:

Only ruining a young footballers career …….so much more than just throwing him in as his welfare and development come first and the club despite being a car crash in many ways should not be throwing 15 year olds into the first team 

Strongly disagree. If your good enough your old enough. Obviously I don’t know if he is. Impassible to tell but I don’t exactly trust the judgement of this club. Also not sure how it would ruin his care regardless of how he got on 

[cropstonfox]

27 minutes ago, reynard said:

Ashley Chambers played for us in the League Cup (possibly)  at the age of 15 a few years back now.  

And ended up at York city in the conference.

[grth2004]

10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Ethan Nwaneri played for Arsenal when he was 15. Monga is considered as good if not better at the same age. We've not had a player this good in our academy, doesn't mean he'll go on to be the most successful but his talent is frightening.

I want to get excited but just feel what’s the point if he can just leave to a big club and I couldn’t blame him. What age can he sign a contract ?

[Old Fox]

3 minutes ago, DezFox said:

Strongly disagree. If your good enough your old enough. Obviously I don’t know if he is. Impassible to tell but I don’t exactly trust the judgement of this club. Also not sure how it would ruin his care regardless of how he got on 

The step up is huge and playing U21 or U18 is no comparative and the welfare is paramount - the comments above suggested we throw him in because we have nothing to lose and he is leaving so it does not matter - my response was in reference to this in that this would be irresponsible and the club do know best. 
if you look at Alves and he was the next big thing but despite being thrown in early and still needs time to mature - Nyoni was and is a talent with Liverpool now nurturing his talent.

For every one Foden or Nwaneri there are hundreds more who will promise so much at 15 but the step is huge to first team championship let alone prem football.

i would personally trust the club and only they will know if he is ready - we can agree to disagree but the likes of Yamal or Bellingham are 1 in a million…

[Steve Earle]

4 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

I want to get excited but just feel what’s the point if he can just leave to a big club and I couldn’t blame him. What age can he sign a contract ?

17

[DezFox]

9 minutes ago, Old Fox said:

The step up is huge and playing U21 or U18 is no comparative and the welfare is paramount - the comments above suggested we throw him in because we have nothing to lose and he is leaving so it does not matter - my response was in reference to this in that this would be irresponsible and the club do know best. 
if you look at Alves and he was the next big thing but despite being thrown in early and still needs time to mature - Nyoni was and is a talent with Liverpool now nurturing his talent.

For every one Foden or Nwaneri there are hundreds more who will promise so much at 15 but the step is huge to first team championship let alone prem football.

i would personally trust the club and only they will know if he is ready - we can agree to disagree but the likes of Yamal or Bellingham are 1 in a million…

Yeah agree to disagree. I see your point, but im talking about fa cup and off the bench. Not sure what harm It would do. I think not all scenarios are detrimental to his career as you suggest. It could also be a positive for him, for us, and others in the academy. This club needs some positivity and I think this would be a great scenario to generate some. There is just as much chance of it having a positive impact also. 
 

 

[FrankieADZ]

44 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Ethan Nwaneri played for Arsenal when he was 15. Monga is considered as good if not better at the same age. We've not had a player this good in our academy, doesn't mean he'll go on to be the most successful but his talent is frightening.

tbf we havent brought anyone in and given the state of the club, actually giving some of the younger lads a go might actually give the fans a bit of a lift too

[BlueApple]

I've been supporting Leicester for a long time and I've never known there to be this much talk of a player his age.

 

Playing for the U21 at 15 is nothing to be sniffed at but to be performing well so quickly does bode very well. 

 

Jake Evans as well seems to be doing well in the U21s, the good thing about them both is that they've both still not found their ceiling at such a young age. Is Evans 17? In my head that's old enough to be brought into the match day squad, it's not like it's a massive miss if McAteer doesn't warm the bench for a couple games.

 

Also, considering we're so shackled by PSR, surely trying to speed up their development is only a good thing. Look at Dibling for Southampton, yes they're going down but Dibling was linked to a £55m move to Spurs this window just gone. That's pure profit, enough for a rebuild in the Championship.

 

Apologies for the essay but there's nothing else to get excited about at Leicester currently!

 

Edited 5 February by BlueApple

[Parker Pen]

Play him whilst we are in still in the Prem and if you use Nwaneri as an example he then becomes a £30 million saleable asset. Isn’t that the business model that the club should be striving for with the investment at Seagrave?

[Sly]

No harm in playing him by the way, I personally just don’t think he’ll stand out. The question remains, can he hold his own at such a young age. If he can, that’s exceptional. 
 

For those asking.

 

He can sign a contract with another club in the UK when he’s 16, with his parents consent. This is essentially what Nyoni did when he joined Liverpool.

 

With us no longer being in the EU, unless his parents get a job in Paris, Madrid, Milan etc, for non footballing reasons, he can’t join join a foreign club. 
 

If he goes anywhere, it will be to an academy like Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. 

 

We are then obviously entitled compensation if he moves clubs. That won’t be in the millions like people suggest and isn’t impacted massively by if they’ve played or not. We stand to get less if he goes abroad.
 

https://playerstatus.thefa.com/support/solutions/articles/80001137042-compensation-fee-tribunal

 

A player generally must be at least 16 years old to play in the Premier League.
 

This rule is set by the Football Association (FA) and the Premier League to ensure the physical and mental readiness of young players.

 

Ethan Nwaneri, who made his debut for Arsenal at 15 years and 181 days in September 2022. That was an exception, and he was granted special permission due to his talent and “readiness”.

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

9 hours ago, Sly said:

He’s never getting that amount of space against competent players. Bizarrely, I’m not sure you get that much space in League 2! 
 

One thing being a stand out player at such a young age, it’s another stepping into adult football and making an impact. 
 

I know people like to say he’ll be better than Ayew and BDDR, however play them against the dross at youth level and they’d look ridiculous. 
 

The game has levels. 
 

We’ve all Got one. 

He is if he's training with our 1st team