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Whilst this is good news for the Reform group, is it a sign of just how insignificant the Trust will be viewed by the club moving forward? The club’s fan engagement strategy will now focus fully around the FAB, and really, the club no longer has to speak with supporter groups.

 

You would assume that the previous Chair knew this, so now he’s got his comfy seat on the FAB, knows thats the only opportunity to speak to the relevant people at LCFC?

 

Will the Trust be relevant with the FAB around? (Insert your own jokes about it not being relevant for 20 years etc etc) 

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25 minutes ago, Foxes Trust Reform said:

For those wondering, this is really positive news.

 

We’ve met with Lynn and Steve on a few occasions over the last few months and they were both receptive to our ideas and eager for the Trust to do, and be, better.

 

Throughout the course of our campaign, we’ve heard numerous people across the wider fan base share frustration, or negative sentiment, about Ian Bason. Some of that is possibly unfair, but he was the name and face of the Trust for 20+ years. This move means that he is no longer that - for the first time in a long time there is new leadership at the Trust.

 

Now, of course, the task is to get a strong and effective board around Steve and Lynn to support them and really get the Trust operating as it should be. The Early AGM in January provides an opportunity to do that.

 

If you haven’t already, please consider joining the Trust to play your part in the election. There now exists a genuine opportunity to get our Foxes Trust where it needs to be, but that will only happen if enough people vote for the right candidates.

The only reason I’ve not joined previously, is I don’t believe you have any weight, or the club won’t listen to anything you propose. 
 

Unfortunately, I don’t anticipate this changing any time soon.

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18 minutes ago, FOTS said:

 

Whilst this is good news for the Reform group, is it a sign of just how insignificant the Trust will be viewed by the club moving forward? The club’s fan engagement strategy will now focus fully around the FAB, and really, the club no longer has to speak with supporter groups.

 

You would assume that the previous Chair knew this, so now he’s got his comfy seat on the FAB, knows thats the only opportunity to speak to the relevant people at LCFC?

 

Will the Trust be relevant with the FAB around? (Insert your own jokes about it not being relevant for 20 years etc etc) 

Yes the FAB move is not good in this respect. The club currently are funneling their only communication lines to any fans through the fab and no longer via the four supporter groups.

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Is the Trust Rep a "permanent" role or is for a certain time.

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12 minutes ago, davieG said:

Is the Trust Rep a "permanent" role or is for a certain time.

There will always be a place for the Trust on the FAB (it has primacy) however all the individuals serving as the fan reps serve for a 3 year term, so the person serving as the Trust Rep will change accordingly 

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Just to say I have met Steve & Lynn on three occasions (I think) in total. 

 

Whilst not wanting to talk for them, they are exactly the characters you want in such a role. Lynn is passionate - season ticket holder to both men & women - had made efforts to meet with other fan groups and herself rejoined the trust about three years ago to give it a push in the right direction. 

 

Steve does a lot of work at a national level with the FSA which probably doesn't get highlighted enough. By his own admission, he's an example of how a fan has been alienated by football with its fixture changes which meant he dropped his season ticket and then finds the membership system an obstacle. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

There will always be a place for the Trust on the FAB (it has primacy) however all the individuals serving as the fan reps serve for a 3 year term, so the person serving as the Trust Rep will change accordingly 

I know you need a degree of continuity but 3 years is a long time and can result in staleness and inaction. Surely it would be better if there were new participants every year on a rolling basis. I appreciate that is difficult with a new set up. Also there's a risk of all change after 3 years leaving a void.

 

Are the Club reps permanent?

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1 hour ago, FOTS said:

 

Whilst this is good news for the Reform group, is it a sign of just how insignificant the Trust will be viewed by the club moving forward? The club’s fan engagement strategy will now focus fully around the FAB, and really, the club no longer has to speak with supporter groups.

 

You would assume that the previous Chair knew this, so now he’s got his comfy seat on the FAB, knows thats the only opportunity to speak to the relevant people at LCFC?

 

Will the Trust be relevant with the FAB around? (Insert your own jokes about it not being relevant for 20 years etc etc) 

Hard to say at this moment in time. 

 

Ultimately though the foundation is that the Trust needs to be stronger and more representative to get traction. Club can ignore a small minority but if it gets bigger enough that local and national media sources are happy to listen, then it's a different beast. With the change at the trust occurring, it represents the largest chance to shape the Trust in what the wider fanbase want. We take this point of view from looking at how other trusts at clubs have evolved and developed. 

 

My personal view is that the Trust needs to work on its community angle. That's something I want to push along and see at other supporter trusts. There's no doubting that professional football clubs are business and they are going to take the feedback they want rather than received. So the goals of a supporters trust have altered in recent years in supporting the fanbase (and in default the city). 

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4 minutes ago, davieG said:

I know you need a degree of continuity but 3 years is a long time and can result in staleness and inaction. Surely it would be better if there were new participants every year on a rolling basis. I appreciate that is difficult with a new set up. Also there's a risk of all change after 3 years leaving a void.

 

Are the Club reps permanent?

Tbf 3 years is the period of time that the Football Supporters Association led as their guidance rather than anything suggested by an individual club or supporters organisation. 

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1 hour ago, Sly said:

The only reason I’ve not joined previously, is I don’t believe you have any weight, or the club won’t listen to anything you propose. 
 

Unfortunately, I don’t anticipate this changing any time soon.

Therefore the status quo stays. There's only one way of finding out. 

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1 hour ago, Sly said:

The only reason I’ve not joined previously, is I don’t believe you have any weight, or the club won’t listen to anything you propose. 
 

Unfortunately, I don’t anticipate this changing any time soon.

Then it just remains the same. I know what you mean regarding the club not listening but the trust needs more and more members, to be able to get change on that front. 

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Bason has absolutely abused his position here to get on the FAB and then to leave. As previously called out by many.

 

Such a coward who wasted so many people’s times to play his games of snuggling up to club management.

 

Steve and Lynn are good people, both frustrated by the lack of progress no doubt, the reasons are now evident.

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1 hour ago, Sly said:

The only reason I’ve not joined previously, is I don’t believe you have any weight, or the club won’t listen to anything you propose. 
 

Unfortunately, I don’t anticipate this changing any time soon.

Isn't that a plus point for a trust? 

 

They should be a campaigning group, at times a thorn in the side of the club, the conscience, the voice of the fans and a contrary view to the Thai worship cult  sycophancy that reigns down there. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sly said:

The only reason I’ve not joined previously, is I don’t believe you have any weight, or the club won’t listen to anything you propose. 
 

Unfortunately, I don’t anticipate this changing any time soon.

We’re at a fork in road now…

 

There’s an AGM with the opportunity to elect people onto the board of the Trust who think like you do. There’s been a change at the top of the leadership of the Trust for the first time in 20+ years with pro-change people put in control.

 

You (not you personally - everyone who thinks the way you’ve articulated in your post) can support that change by joining and affecting things. Or you can sit and say “the Trust can’t achieve anything” and not affect any change whatsoever.

 

Leicester City fans are being presented with a real choice here: give the Trust a chance to be what you want it to be, or status quo. 
 

Let’s see what they go for…

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43 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

You're being out worked by the Trust nowadays. Imagine that lol 

There will never not be a time when I don’t slam Bason for being the spineless, obsequious, self serving and indolent person he is. Thank fvck that his time associated with anything to do with the club now has a clock on it.

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3 minutes ago, Foxes Trust Reform said:

We’re at a fork in road now…

 

There’s an AGM with the opportunity to elect people onto the board of the Trust who think like you do. There’s been a change at the top of the leadership of the Trust for the first time in 20+ years with pro-change people put in control.

 

You (not you personally - everyone who thinks the way you’ve articulated in your post) can support that change by joining and affecting things. Or you can sit and say “the Trust can’t achieve anything” and not affect any change whatsoever.

 

Leicester City fans are being presented with a real choice here: give the Trust a chance to be what you want it to be, or status quo. 
 

Let’s see what they go for…

My parting gift to the club will be voting for reform candidates.

 

Anyone who gives the slightest shit about issues impacting their attendance at games should join the Trust so they can vote.

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The FAB is a consultation body - the club are free to ignore the views of those present - there will be no votes.  The club are able to decide what they will and will not share (on a confidential basis ) with the FAB - I predict they will share little.

The longer term hope for the FAB is that the club come to realise that talking things thru with the FAB will lead them to make better decisions - I expect this to take many years (10?)... as the club has to set aside their wariness and be brave enough to share ideas and to listen.  From where we are now that is a big shift.

So while hoping for the best form the FAB, the Trust still has a special position in representing the fans.  In the reform group we have been clear in our vision that the trust must represent ALL fans (not just members) and to hold the club to account. The FAB reps are bound by an NDA -  and as I explained above the club will keep tight control on the FAB agenda.

Over the last year we have seen the club messing with pricing, plastic, sponsorship, £ for autographs, messing with the control of the FAB itself and failing to explain who is responsible for what.  

 

To get a more forceful trust we have an opportunity at the AGM to elect "reform fans" to the trust and  so ensure it becomes a strong and campaigning supporters trust.  For those in the reform group we will be communicating very soon to explain how we will continue to renew the make up of the trust board.  Please join the trust.....     and please email [email protected] to join the reform group,

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1 hour ago, Foxes_Trust said:

Hello all, Lynn here, new Co-Chair of the Trust, a quick personal post from me:

 

Thanks to those that have welcomed us. We may not always get everything right or please everyone all of the time, but we'll do our best to represent Trust members and all LCFC supporters and to have a voice at the club. 

 

I'm looking forward to working with all the different supporters groups and hearing as many views as possible from all of you as we push for the new fan engagement framework to truly result in the club listening to fans, to get safe standing implemented before next season and also progress improvements at the Trust.

 

I'd personally like to put my thanks on record to Ian who has given up countless hours to the Trust over the years, all voluntarily, and has often received vitriolic personal abuse and unwarranted accusations. People have not seen how hard he has worked in the background and how he has been instrumental in wanting to move the Trust forward in the last couple of years. 

 

As people say above, the more members we have, the stronger our voice is with the club. Be a part of it. For those that do decide to join, or are already members, please put Monday January 13th in your diary. It's our AGM and we want as many members there as possible to hear about the Board's future plans and for you to get involved if you want to. 

 

Whilst I'm here, we've popped a letter off today to Ipswich about what seemed like some pretty poor stewarding at Portman Rd, as we'd had lots of complaints from supporters about it.  https://foxestrust.co.uk/11262/trust-raises-concerns-about-stewarding 

 

I can be contacted on [email protected] if you have any ideas, comments or complaints, and you can find me at men's games in G2, W-118 or at women's games in B1, F-136. 

 

 

Good stuff and very glad to hear Ipswich have been written to about Saturday. Absolute farce that was. 

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I think this role was designed for me to be honest. I should be on the next ballot paper such is my incredible reputation amongst my fellow supporters. 

 

Those in agreement say aye

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8 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

I think this role was designed for me to be honest. I should be on the next ballot paper such is my incredible reputation amongst my fellow supporters. 

 

Those in agreement say aye


 

 

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