Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Dahnsouff]

55 minutes ago, Gazza M said:

Just to remind people, he has accumulated 8 points from 21 matches. We have not scored a home goal for 9 consecutive games. It is that bad Cooper could have lost 9 more in a row and still would have had a better record after 21 games. I can't even look at the guy never mind listen to his pre-match waffle. The longer he is around the worse it is going to get.

 

Wolves riding on a crest of a wave thanks to us giving their confidence life support back in December like a Carlsberg advert. Hoping for the final nail today in this pathetic regime. 

But the people that employed him would still be in charge of the next manager, giving Ruud the boot is insufficient in my opinion 

[fairbanksh]

Absolutely he has been a very ineffective inexperienced manager. But the big errors,a complete disaster are 100% down to Top,Rudkin and Whelan. This has not been helped by the most benign group of supporters in the League

[Mickyblueeyes]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Why do you ‘like’ Martin, who has proven that he’s basically a more stubborn version of Enzo with fewer leadership skills and less ability to organise a defence?

He is not Ruud. 
 

That is a positive for 99.9% of people who categorise themselves as football managers/coaches. That includes the under 8 coach at my local Sunday league team. 
 

I mean Martin has nothing else going for him and I absolutely don’t want him here but even he is levels above this guy and will be a major improvement. 

[SafewayFox]

9 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

He is not Ruud. 
 

That is a positive for 99.9% of people who categorise themselves as football managers/coaches. That includes the under 8 coach at my local Sunday league team. 
 

I mean Martin has nothing else going for him and I absolutely don’t want him here but even he is levels above this guy and will be a major improvement. 

I really wouldn’t want Martin but your point about anyone but Ruud is the answer for me.

 

Yes, the board needs addressing but pretty sure that Top/Rudkin doesn’t make Ruud ignore Stephy for months, drop Okoli after a good game and a first goal for Faes.

 

Ruud has been statistically one of the worst PL managers in history, how can anyone think him staying on is a good idea.

[teblin]

I agree Ruud needs to go. But the “anyone but …” argument feels like how we ended up with Ruud.

[Ricey]

I’m warming to the idea of not sacking him, but only if there is a chance that there will be changes at board level and new strategy (is there one currently?) put in place over the next few months.

 

If we sack him now or in May, it will be Top and Rudkin choosing the next lamb to the slaughter. It will be another case of looking at what CV’s happen to fall on the desk and who is being touted by the one agent the club is currently enamoured with. They’ll be ranked by how high profile they are and the club will put way too much emphasis on the interview. Style of play will be irrelevant. We may strike lucky, but the chances are slim.

 

Next season is likely to be another shitshow either way, especially with points deductions. We can’t afford to sack Ruud, hire another management team, let them rebuild the squad…and do all that via the current leadership and without a blueprint or long term plan. It will be throwing money down the drain and will only deepen our PSR problems.
 

Put all the energy and money into hiring the best Sporting Director, Performance Director, CEO, Head of Recruitment etc. A fresh group, committed, driven and innovative. Let them lead the rebuild, even if it means sticking with Ruud for a bit longer and playing more Academy players to plug the gaps from sales.

 

Short term pain for, hopefully, long term gain.

[foxinsocks]

Given the poor decision making then we should get new decision makers before making any more

[teblin]

Can’t shake the feeling that he might be staying. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

Not sacking him! 

 

I can't think of one and I mean one thing that shows he has any ability to run a professional football team. 

 

What am I missing? He's literally (used correctly) credentialess (new word but totally apt for this complete and utter berk). 

[SafewayFox]

2 hours ago, teblin said:

I agree Ruud needs to go. But the “anyone but …” argument feels like how we ended up with Ruud.

Playing Devil’s advocate, is there a PL or Championship manager who has a back room staff of one?

 

The alarm bells of him not bringing a back room with him, on top of his dreadful records make me think that any respectable coach/manager is a better bet than Ruud.

[TheFiveTime]

how do i forgive him for all the times he played faes over okoli and more criminally, reid over mavididi

[Lineker's Left Foot]

2 hours ago, fairbanksh said:

Absolutely he has been a very ineffective inexperienced manager. But the big errors,a complete disaster are 100% down to Top,Rudkin and Whelan. This has not been helped by the most benign group of supporters in the League

Summed up completely for me.

[Tielemans63]

There's no argument for keeping him IMHO. He's a terrible manager. Not wanting more turmoil isn't a reason to keep someone so helplessly out of their depth.

[Dahnsouff]

We got crap twice, and people are fine to have more crap as long as it is a different flavour of crap. The rot is above Ruud, and this in no way supports him, it just recognises that the problem does not start and stop with Ruud. 
 

Change for changes sake is for the birds, we need meaningful at all levels..

[CrazyKopCorner]

15 minutes ago, TheFiveTime said:

how do i forgive him for all the times he played faes over okoli and more criminally, reid over mavididi

You can't - didn't play Facundo either - Kristensen over Thomas - Continually playing Soumare - Continuing to play Ayew. 

 

The man is a complete and utter fool. 

 

This squad is so bad that the team should have picked itself for the whole of the season - Cooper was complete and utter shite as well. 

 

50 years of following Us and we get 2 out of the worst 4 managers in our history (other 2 being McClintock and Taylor) (appreciate there would be other unhonourable mentions from others as we've had some shite). 

Edited 26 April by CrazyKopCorner

[SafewayFox]

11 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

We got crap twice, and people are fine to have more crap as long as it is a different flavour of crap. The rot is above Ruud, and this in no way supports him, it just recognises that the problem does not start and stop with Ruud. 
 

Change for changes sake is for the birds, we need meaningful at all levels..

They also brought in Brendan, who was great before he lost interest (albeit it our slump started when he was given too much influence) and Enzo.

 

Sorry but the “careful what you wish for” with Ruud is a pretty weak case for him to stay for me.

 

I’m with you though, that in an ideal world, Top sells up and the whole board is overhauled but we all know that it’s quite unlikely.

[RoboFox]

1 hour ago, teblin said:

Can’t shake the feeling that he might be staying. 

Imagine the club being even more of a laughing stock.

[South Shire Fox]

2 hours ago, Ricey said:

I’m warming to the idea of not sacking him, but only if there is a chance that there will be changes at board level and new strategy (is there one currently?) put in place over the next few months.

 

If we sack him now or in May, it will be Top and Rudkin choosing the next lamb to the slaughter. It will be another case of looking at what CV’s happen to fall on the desk and who is being touted by the one agent the club is currently enamoured with. They’ll be ranked by how high profile they are and the club will put way too much emphasis on the interview. Style of play will be irrelevant. We may strike lucky, but the chances are slim.

 

Next season is likely to be another shitshow either way, especially with points deductions. We can’t afford to sack Ruud, hire another management team, let them rebuild the squad…and do all that via the current leadership and without a blueprint or long term plan. It will be throwing money down the drain and will only deepen our PSR problems.
 

Put all the energy and money into hiring the best Sporting Director, Performance Director, CEO, Head of Recruitment etc. A fresh group, committed, driven and innovative. Let them lead the rebuild, even if it means sticking with Ruud for a bit longer and playing more Academy players to plug the gaps from sales.

 

Short term pain for, hopefully, long term gain.

4 points in 18 games and the worse home run of form in 150 years of professional football. There is no excuse whatsoever for the useless twat to not be sacked. Even Cooper managed to score occasionally 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

They also brought in Brendan, who was great before he lost interest (albeit it our slump started when he was given too much influence) and Enzo.

 

Sorry but the “careful what you wish for” with Ruud is a pretty weak case for him to stay for me.

 

I’m with you though, that in an ideal world, Top sells up and the whole board is overhauled but we all know that it’s quite unlikely.

Understand, but Brendan and even Enzo were prior to our current aimless managerial recruitment. Maybe the current regime have learnt, but not sure where such a lesson would have done from tbh. Think Ruud will be gone in the Summer, but as it stands, how can anyone have any confidence in the replacement?

[Silebyfox_89]

Anyone who wants him to stay next season needs a brain scan.

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

Anyone who wants him to stay next season needs a brain scan.

And anyone who lets the current board select his replacement should seek professional help.  

[Craig]

This man absolutely cannot be here next season. It is astonishing that he has been here to this point. 

 

 

[JimmyC74]

He hasn’t done anything to suggest he should be given more time, so only finances / compliance with PSR could be a reason to defer putting him out of his misery.

 

I imagine they are stalling as once they communicate they won’t be keeping him on they will feel they need to terminate the contract/ rather than placing him on gardening leave until the end of June.

 

 

[Dmitry]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

This man absolutely cannot be here next season. It is astonishing that he has been here to this point. 

 

 

Sacking would make Top expose himself as a ****ing baboon that he is. 

 

[Ricey]

16 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

4 points in 18 games and the worse home run of form in 150 years of professional football. There is no excuse whatsoever for the useless twat to not be sacked. Even Cooper managed to score occasionally 

That’s not the point though, if you read the rest of the post.

 

He’s a bad manager, who has failed miserably, but when you look at the bigger picture there is no point paying him off and then hiring someone else terrible who will rebuild the squad and then also be paid off at some point in the next year. That sets us back another couple of years.

 

Save our money until Top, Rudkin, Glover and co aren’t the ones making the decisions.