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[lfu]

5 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I don’t think that Warsaw defeat gets spoken about enough. They’re a big club, but they were literally bottom of the Polish league at the time. 
 

They could’ve had at least three that game. 

The media spent a lot of pre-match buildup talking about how their manager Czeslaw Michniewicz saw Rodgers as a role model too, which made it outrageous, almost offensive, that Brendan got completely schooled by him

[Stadt]

The lineup at Warsaw was embarrassing, it was only our 6th (?) European campaign ever and we were putting weak teams out.

[MattFox]

Another busy day at the office for “Mr Chairman”

 

[Dan]

11 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I know you were about the first to call it and got absolute pelters from many. I just read the forum for a long time before I actually joined but I agreed with your every word and felt the same in conversations I had with people in my life. 
 

One that sticks to mind was a 3-0 defeat to Chelsea in the November. I just looked at results from around that time and actually, there were a mixed bag and by all means not a consistently bad run of defeats. I think it was just the way we were playing and the body language of the players and Rodgers, and the manner we were not just losing the games we did but any results we were getting, that had me suspecting a downwards curve. I still couldn’t tell you if I really expected us to go down or if I was just being overly dramatic but the fact we did, and sooner than I had even suggested, shows what a decline this is.

 

A few more people seemed to turn in the new year (2022) with the Forest defeat in the cup and the 3-2 defeat to Spurs when we were leading with second to go! 
 

Far too many still didn’t think anything of it until the horrific start to the 2022/23 season though.

I don't think our drop off in performance from 2021/22 to 2022/23 was 'that' significant. We were frequently getting better results than our performances deserved and we then threw in a terrible goalkeeper the season after.

 

Coming 8th that season was a huge paper over the cracks job. We ought to have come about 13th/14th and I think if we did we'd have possibly taken more measures to stop what was going to follow.

 

That being said, everything that has followed since has told me they probably wouldn't have done. They would put it down to a blip and that we would be back pushing for the CL places the year after.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

39 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Another busy day at the office for “Mr Chairman”

 

****ing hell he's short

[LCFCJohn]

34 minutes ago, Dan said:

I don't think our drop off in performance from 2021/22 to 2022/23 was 'that' significant. We were frequently getting better results than our performances deserved and we then threw in a terrible goalkeeper the season after.

 

Coming 8th that season was a huge paper over the cracks job. We ought to have come about 13th/14th and I think if we did we'd have possibly taken more measures to stop what was going to follow.

 

That being said, everything that has followed since has told me they probably wouldn't have done. They would put it down to a blip and that we would be back pushing for the CL places the year after.

Absolutely. That is what I mean to say. The ‘results’ didn’t appear too bad but I remember being very concerned about it so yeah, performances were poor and 8th massively flattered us. 
 

It was that time we became a literal meme due to our record defending set pieces as well if I recall.

[Donwebbio]

51 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Another busy day at the office for “Mr Chairman”

 

Russian dolls! He hasn't even made himself captain of his own polo team - could the guy have any less leadership ability?

Edited 31 May 2025 by Donwebbio

[MattFox]

59 minutes ago, Dan said:

I don't think our drop off in performance from 2021/22 to 2022/23 was 'that' significant. We were frequently getting better results than our performances deserved and we then threw in a terrible goalkeeper the season after.

 

Coming 8th that season was a huge paper over the cracks job. We ought to have come about 13th/14th and I think if we did we'd have possibly taken more measures to stop what was going to follow.

 

That being said, everything that has followed since has told me they probably wouldn't have done. They would put it down to a blip and that we would be back pushing for the CL places the year after.

Not the biggest fan of the model but Xg wise we were 15th in 21/22 and 12th in 22/23

 

The biggest drop of was 20/21 to 21/22 

 

Our home record against the bottom half side basically padded our points total that season 

[GrobyLCFC31]

Pre season plans or Polo? 🤔 

Edited 31 May 2025 by GrobyLCFC31

[1972 Fox]

13 minutes ago, GrobyLCFC31 said:

Pre season plans or Polo? 🤔 

Similarities to Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

[Delphine]

Next season after point deductions... 

[sishades]

On 30/05/2025 at 18:49, LCFCJohn said:

It might or might not happen (League 1).

 

But, answer truthfully, if someone had said 5 years ago, when we were just back from the lockdown break and going for top 4 that in 5 years time we’d have just been relegated for the second time in that time, on sub 30 points, would you have believed it possible?

 

I wouldn’t have and I would recall first thinking relegation was possible in autumn 2021 (when Newcastle’s takeover happened and talking to a Newcastle mate).

 

This decline is sharp. You may not care to admit it but where we are now was not comprehensible 5 years ago. Until we see changes made, I would be cautious of ruling out any such lows. 

A well structured and respectful response.  I have followed City for 50 years so relegation has always happened at many points in the clubs history so I would not have been surprised at all. It was always going to happen, sadly.

[sishades]

17 hours ago, Dan said:

Ways to publicly humiliate them.

You should be ashamed!!!!

[Clogger_]

Just now, sishades said:

You should be ashamed!!!!

No you should. Sycophancy to these disgraceful failures will only lead in a worse direction.

 

Start with sacking Rudkin. Move forward from there.

[sishades]

Just now, Clogger_ said:

disgraceful failures

?

[sishades]

11 hours ago, accessory said:

I think you are onto something here. It has often crossed my mind that there is some self-sabotage going on with Top

Do you also believe in alien lizard shape shifters attempting to create a new world order?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

22 minutes ago, sishades said:

A well structured and respectful response.  I have followed City for 50 years so relegation has always happened at many points in the clubs history so I would not have been surprised at all. It was always going to happen, sadly.

The length of time you've followed the club doesn't make your opinion correct. If anything it makes it even more staggering that you've yet to come to terms with what's happening.

[Bordersfox]

25 minutes ago, sishades said:

A well structured and respectful response.  I have followed City for 50 years so relegation has always happened at many points in the clubs history so I would not have been surprised at all. It was always going to happen, sadly.

From what age did you follow City?

[sishades]

I started when I was 9. I was living in Germany at the time.

[MattFox]

Did you have the same approach when Pleat and the Shipman’s were driving the club to the wall in the late 80’s?

 

@sishades

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Did Top's team win today at the Queens club polo tournament and did he score 🤷🏽

[sishades]

26 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Did you have the same approach when Pleat and the Shipman’s were driving the club to the wall in the late 80’s?

 

@sishades

Towards Pleat yes. There were no calls for the shipmans to leave and no social media to express a vitriolic hate campaign. Also we were playing at Filbert St in front of around 9000 if we were lucky. So when I see the club of today compared to what it was when I was younger it seems a galaxy away. 

[MattFox]

33 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Did Top's team win today at the Queens club polo tournament and did he score 🤷🏽

Hope he lost and fell off his horse personally 

[Cropwellfox]

22 minutes ago, sishades said:

Towards Pleat yes. There were no calls for the shipmans to leave and no social media to express a vitriolic hate campaign. Also we were playing at Filbert St in front of around 9000 if we were lucky. So when I see the club of today compared to what it was when I was younger it seems a galaxy away. 

My memory is of lots of vitriol towards Shipman too around the time Pleat was fired, Martin George coming in felt like almost as important a symbolic change as Brian Little arriving in the helicopter. 

[LCFCJohn]

9 hours ago, sishades said:

A well structured and respectful response.  I have followed City for 50 years so relegation has always happened at many points in the clubs history so I would not have been surprised at all. It was always going to happen, sadly.

I know it was structure and respectful as I am capable of having balanced discussions whilst having my own view on things. I don’t think responding to people saying ‘what a load of shit’ or ‘that’s BS’ really contributes anything.

 

What you are failing to acknowledge with your ‘little old yoyo Leicester’ narrative is that we had never come from a point of such a high and being so established. That and the short time frame I referred to can’t be put down to what is to be expected and no other club would accept this.

 

I also find this argument a bit contradictory when you have said the possibility of us being in L1 in 5 years is a ‘load of shit’. I went back 5 years to 2020 as that is the window forward the other poster referenced. But we were relegated 12 months after a European semi-final, 24 months after FA Cup and Community Shield wins. I find it strange you think this was just to be expected and yet now there is no chance we are in L1 in 5 years. I can only think you are basing this off historical factors (I.e we have yoyo’d a lot throughout history so that is ok but we have only been in L1 once so that can’t possibly happen). This does not take into account how the football landscape has changed. 
 

As I said originally, I am not saying we will or won’t be back in L1 inside 5 years. But whilst the initial fall from where we were at was shocking, I don’t think dropping again in the coming years will be. If we don’t, it won’t be through good judgement but sheer luck at the financial barriers.

 

There are a lot of teams coming up now from the leagues below who are well run and well invested in. We are sadly now terribly run and a couple of years of failing to get back up, continuing deterioration of squad quality, loss of parachute payments and possibly factors like points deductions could very well see us slip out of the Championship at the other end as quickly as 2020 turned into 2025…..