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14 minutes ago, Donwebbio said:

I think you are onto something here. It has often crossed my mind that there is some self-sabotage going on with Top. Maybe being around the place and being involved with the club is still so painful fof him and not something he wanted to do without his dad. Is he making poor decisions on purpose or at times not making decisions and letting things worsen as a protest for being forced into his dad's shoes without any of his dad's skill for doing it?

The club has been a financial black hole for some time.  It will remain so for every season we are outside the Premier League.

 

As owner, Aiyawatt has been content to foot the bill for these heavy losses, apparently without any kind of serious scrutiny as to how and why they arose.

 

Maybe a sizeable points deduction, sufficient to scupper any promotion bid, will prompt him to take a closer look at financial affairs.

 

He cannot and won't be in a position to pump money into City forever.

Posted
4 minutes ago, accessory said:

Leicester City were under American ownership from 2007 to 2010. It wasn't a particularly glorious chapter in our history.

 

Ask Manyoo, Arsenal or Chelsea fans how they feel about their clubs' owners and whether they put fans' interests first.  Remember, too, that these were the clubs (along with Liverpool) pushing for a megabucks, closed-shop European Super League.

 

American "investors" have no great "love for British sport". Their prime motivation is the rate of financial return perceived to be on offer.

 

For every Ryan Reynolds (who's actually Canadian), there's a Malcolm Glazer or Ellis Short.

First paragraph is obviously referring to Mandaric. Although he was Serbian/American. Although we were relegated to L1 in his time, the damage was done before 2007. He took the club on the down and ended up stabilising it and bringing in Pearson which is the best move ever done by an owner of ours. That is where you can trace all the success back to, the summer before the L1 campaign. The biggest criticism I have of Milan is who he sells his clubs to. Portsmouth and Sheff Weds were awful and we are now going that way.

 

Second paragraph I am discarding as I specifically referred to the big money clubs so I acknowledged them. There are loads who have invested in clubs in the football league who are doing a good job. 

 

Third part, yes of course they are keen on investment but in many cases, they are good at it. They don’t run clubs into the ground like the examples I gave of South Asian owners.
 

I’m aware Reynolds is Canadian. You miss the American half of that partnership in McAlhenny though?

 

I’m not saying I want American owner. I was just pointing out that there are good ones and they aren’t all Glazer and Boeley types. I just think it’s interesting that they get tarred as all being asset strippers as a nation when it comes to football ownership whilst Asian owners seem to get a free pass despite an appalling record of football ownership in this country.

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Comms since the season ended tells you exactly what they think of you. 

Posted
2 hours ago, accessory said:

Leicester City were under American ownership from 2007 to 2010. It wasn't a particularly glorious chapter in our history.

 

Ask Manyoo, Arsenal or Chelsea fans how they feel about their clubs' owners and whether they put fans' interests first.  Remember, too, that these were the clubs (along with Liverpool) pushing for a megabucks, closed-shop European Super League.

 

American "investors" have no great "love for British sport". Their prime motivation is the rate of financial return perceived to be on offer.

 

For every Ryan Reynolds (who's actually Canadian), there's a Malcolm Glazer or Ellis Short.

What love does Aiyawatt have for football?

 

Seems more interesting in horse racing and mallet shagging

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Comms since the season ended tells you exactly what they think of you. 

Don’t know what you mean, countless happy birthday messages, I mean surely wishing club stalwarts like David Oldfield best wishes makes up for the absolute crud fest of this season just ended 😀

Posted
1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Villa, Bournemouth, Burnley, Palace, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, Ipswich, Millwall, Portsmouth, Wrexham, Sheffield United, WBA, Birmingham, Lincoln, Reading. 

 

All American owners who at the very least have  a handle on how to run a football club. Penny is dropping at Chelsea too and you could argue Arsenal are still well ran but can’t get it over the line. A lot of American owners appear to learn over time; Fulham, Birmingham and Liverpool good signs of that. 
 

Dont get me wrong they all have failures with their fan engagement but we have the worst of both. Incompetent stewardship, erosion of fan support. The first one will buy most fans support. Arsenal fans wouldn’t be complaining if the trophies were in the cabinet. Bottom line is that they run it like a business. South-East Asian ownership is so wrapped up on status and political posturing, that they won’t change 

Btw the ideal is you get a split scenario where you have one person with a significant link at minority ownership and then two or three others involved. 
 

That normally concentrates as the minds as all parties want success 

Posted
47 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Comms since the season ended tells you exactly what they think of you. 

Lots of birthday wishes though, focusing on the important stuff.

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Carlisle relegated out of the Football League. Fans pissed off with newish American ownership. Within a week issued an apology claiming error and responsibility. Two weeks later Mark Hughes confirmed as staying as manager. Just made their first signing for next season yesterday 

 

****ing Carlisle with their resources have worked quicker than us and have a worse position. 

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Posted
On 29/05/2025 at 21:47, Stadt said:

This would make sense. East Asian ownership has been crap for Birmingham and West Brom too.

How many SE Asian Businesses have been successful in the west in general

 

Outside South Korea and Japan who were heavily Americanised for obvious reasons basically none 

 

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1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Carlisle relegated out of the Football League. Fans pissed off with newish American ownership. Within a week issued an apology claiming error and responsibility. Two weeks later Mark Hughes confirmed as staying as manager. Just made their first signing for next season yesterday 

 

****ing Carlisle with their resources have worked quicker than us and have a worse position. 

Also sacked the director of football...

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Posted
7 minutes ago, MattFox said:

How many SE Asian Businesses have been successful in the west in general

 

Outside South Korea and Japan who were heavily Americanised for obvious reasons basically none 

 

I think what most fans dislike is the total disconnect from the owners to the fans.  Maybe its a cultural thing???

Posted
10 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

I think what most fans dislike is the total disconnect from the owners to the fans.  Maybe its a cultural thing???

I agree, the total disconnect and absence of communication is the opposite of respect. Maybe it’s a cowardly thing.

Posted
6 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I know you were about the first to call it and got absolute pelters from many. I just read the forum for a long time before I actually joined but I agreed with your every word and felt the same in conversations I had with people in my life. 
 

One that sticks to mind was a 3-0 defeat to Chelsea in the November. I just looked at results from around that time and actually, there were a mixed bag and by all means not a consistently bad run of defeats. I think it was just the way we were playing and the body language of the players and Rodgers, and the manner we were not just losing the games we did but any results we were getting, that had me suspecting a downwards curve. I still couldn’t tell you if I really expected us to go down or if I was just being overly dramatic but the fact we did, and sooner than I had even suggested, shows what a decline this is.

 

A few more people seemed to turn in the new year (2022) with the Forest defeat in the cup and the 3-2 defeat to Spurs when we were leading with second to go! 
 

Far too many still didn’t think anything of it until the horrific start to the 2022/23 season though.

I'd started to sour a bit on Rodgers in early 2021, I think the Leeds defeat, both West Ham losses, getting knocked out by Slavia Prague and bottling 4th place again really grated me, and I thought that since we'd won the FA Cup the only way was down and we wouldn't be able to keep upsetting the big six anymore. But I wasn't anywhere near brave enough to say that I wanted him out, I felt the results/FA Cup were still too good to justify that

Then the first half of the 2021/22 season was bad yeah, bottling Europa group stage, ultra inconsistent league form (the win-loss-draw-loss-win-loss-win-draw-etc sequence felt like it would never end), and the Tottenham and Forest losses sealed it for me as wanting him gone ASAP, especially when we went 5 league games without a win twice, but he still got 7 wins from the last 15 to keep his job safe and the fanbase happy. Lost all faith in Brodge that season

Posted
4 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I don’t think that Warsaw defeat gets spoken about enough. They’re a big club, but they were literally bottom of the Polish league at the time. 
 

They could’ve had at least three that game. 

It was a disgusting performance with the only bright spot being a young KDH

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Posted
1 hour ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-strategy-questions-king-10224563

 

Leicester City strategy questions King Power must answer as concerning wait extends
Leicester City news and opinion as the silence from the club leaves supporters frustrated ahead of a crucial summer of needed change

opinion
ByJosh HollandFootball Writer
11:00, 31 MAY 2025
The protest banner flies high over the King Power Stadium.
The protest banner flies high over the King Power Stadium.

Forty days have passed since Leicester City's relegation from the Premier League was confirmed. Realistically, it's been 75 days since the club knew their fate.

After beating Tottenham 2-1 on January 26, Leicester lost six straight Premier League games with an aggregate score of 16-0. After weeks of miserable performances, the 3-0 defeat to Manchester United on March 16 felt like the final nail in the coffin.

A 2-2 draw with Brighton on April 12 was the only bright spark between then and relegation being confirmed. Over a month since City's second relegation from the Premier League in three years and there hasn't been an ounce of communication.

 

Since the class of 2024 lifted the Championship trophy at the King Power Stadium over a year ago, it's been doom and gloom. The decision to appoint a Nottingham Forest legend went down poorly, only really one out of seven new faces arriving on a permanent deal paid off, and the manner of how the season played out under an inexperienced manager has made many lose interest.

So much has gone wrong in LE2 in the past year. The board, Jon Rudkin in particular, have received their fair share of criticism. King Power, despite the glory days in the last decade, are now running the risk of more sections of the fanbase turning on them.

The cliched responses of 'we were in League One' or 'we won the Premier League nine years ago' to any criticism no longer wash.


Relegation happening so soon meant by the time the season finished, the feeling had worn off. Jamie Vardy's farewell on the penultimate game of the season shrouded the toxicity around the King Power Stadium and even then, Rudkin and King Power received pelters.

Forty days have passed since relegation was confirmed and Khun Top has not spoken beyond his usual programme notes. The last time the club found themselves in this grim situation, there was a statement addressing supporters within 24 hours.

It's not right to avoid giving clarity to supporters. What's the plan for next season? Will Ruud van Nistelrooy be sacked or kept on? Is there going to be a 'proper' internal review? What do you, the owner, plan to do?

It would be hoped that Top and those around him at board level are working hard behind-the-scenes to get aligned before a crucial summer. However, in just over two weeks' time, it will be the two-year anniversary of Enzo Maresca's appointment.

The thought of Leicester having some sort of strategy in the public eye by that date this year seems improbable. Van Nistelrooy's constant cry for clarity over his job has been fair and it's poor form, if what the Dutchman repeatedly confirmed in his pre and post-press conferences is correct, that the manager of the football club doesn't know whether he'll be there or not.

Van Nistelrooy does not get a free pass in this abysmal season. The former Manchester United forward had a chant from the Foxes faithful for three games, but lost trust from supporters after starting Danny Ward in that defeat to Wolves.

The Dutchman has given the club an ultimatum by presenting his vision for next season. This is what he plans to do, loathe it and you need to get rid of him. But, despite being a bad appointment in the grand scheme of things, he is not the biggest problem at the club. Neither are the players, but there have been some embarrassing performances.

In years gone by, Leicester have watched on as clubs around England go through these sorts of periods of uncertainty. This time, it's they're the club who appear to be all at sea.

Fortunately, there are positives. Jeremy Monga, Jake Evans and Bade Aluko all making their senior debuts means there is reason for optimism. Adbul Fatawu confirming he should be back fit for pre-season, is a huge boost.

There's also the confirmation from Sheffield United that Hamza Choudhury and Harry Souttar will return to the club after they blew the chance of promotion at Wembley. Souttar is injured, but Choudhury has a real chance of starting on the first day of the Championship season in August.

Taking away the likes of Mads Hermansen, Wilfred Ndidi, Bilal El Khannouss and Wout Faes - players expected to say goodbye - there is still some good Championship players. Jakub Stolarczyk is a starter goalkeeper, he's proven that. Caleb Okoli, Conor Coady and Luke Thomas could be named in the first starting XI and there would not be massive uproar.

Ricardo Pereira, on his day, is brilliant. Despite the anger over his signing, Oliver Skipp isn't going anywhere and starts in the level below. Stephy Mavididi and Fatawu tormented defences last season. Throw in the exciting Monga and Evans plus any recruits, they have a good squad to play with.

Yet the wait for any communication over short-term and long-term strategy from Khun Top, someone who, despite the club's fall, received a decent reception on the final home game of the season, is concerning.

Leicester City fans hold up a banner in the away end at the Vitality Stadium during the 2-0 defeat to Bournemouth
Leicester City fans hold up a banner in the away end at the Vitality Stadium during the 2-0 defeat to Bournemouth (Image: Steven Paston/PA Wire)
Supporters deserve to know how the club hopes to correct what's happened over the past year. What's the plan to return Leicester to the Premier League and remove the dark grey cloud of PSR from over their heads?

More transparency is required. Some insight into the plans would be a start because this summer has the potential to either return the club back to the top-flight or replicate Luton Town's failure and be relegated down to League One.

 

I defy any Forest fan to refer to us as tinpot when Steve ****ing Cooper is described as a Forest legend 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Donwebbio said:

I think you are onto something here. It has often crossed my mind that there is some self-sabotage going on with Top. Maybe being around the place and being involved with the club is still so painful fof him and not something he wanted to do without his dad. Is he making poor decisions on purpose or at times not making decisions and letting things worsen as a protest for being forced into his dad's shoes without any of his dad's skill for doing it?

Maybe ! 
if it’s along those lines fair enough, I’d rather him just come out and say I’m looking to sell the club, let us all move on but limbo isn’t getting us anywhere and our club isn’t any fun anymore 

Posted
2 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-strategy-questions-king-10224563

 

Leicester City strategy questions King Power must answer as concerning wait extends
Leicester City news and opinion as the silence from the club leaves supporters frustrated ahead of a crucial summer of needed change

opinion
ByJosh HollandFootball Writer
11:00, 31 MAY 2025
The protest banner flies high over the King Power Stadium.
The protest banner flies high over the King Power Stadium.

Forty days have passed since Leicester City's relegation from the Premier League was confirmed. Realistically, it's been 75 days since the club knew their fate.

After beating Tottenham 2-1 on January 26, Leicester lost six straight Premier League games with an aggregate score of 16-0. After weeks of miserable performances, the 3-0 defeat to Manchester United on March 16 felt like the final nail in the coffin.

A 2-2 draw with Brighton on April 12 was the only bright spark between then and relegation being confirmed. Over a month since City's second relegation from the Premier League in three years and there hasn't been an ounce of communication.

 

Since the class of 2024 lifted the Championship trophy at the King Power Stadium over a year ago, it's been doom and gloom. The decision to appoint a Nottingham Forest legend went down poorly, only really one out of seven new faces arriving on a permanent deal paid off, and the manner of how the season played out under an inexperienced manager has made many lose interest.

So much has gone wrong in LE2 in the past year. The board, Jon Rudkin in particular, have received their fair share of criticism. King Power, despite the glory days in the last decade, are now running the risk of more sections of the fanbase turning on them.

The cliched responses of 'we were in League One' or 'we won the Premier League nine years ago' to any criticism no longer wash.


Relegation happening so soon meant by the time the season finished, the feeling had worn off. Jamie Vardy's farewell on the penultimate game of the season shrouded the toxicity around the King Power Stadium and even then, Rudkin and King Power received pelters.

Forty days have passed since relegation was confirmed and Khun Top has not spoken beyond his usual programme notes. The last time the club found themselves in this grim situation, there was a statement addressing supporters within 24 hours.

It's not right to avoid giving clarity to supporters. What's the plan for next season? Will Ruud van Nistelrooy be sacked or kept on? Is there going to be a 'proper' internal review? What do you, the owner, plan to do?

It would be hoped that Top and those around him at board level are working hard behind-the-scenes to get aligned before a crucial summer. However, in just over two weeks' time, it will be the two-year anniversary of Enzo Maresca's appointment.

The thought of Leicester having some sort of strategy in the public eye by that date this year seems improbable. Van Nistelrooy's constant cry for clarity over his job has been fair and it's poor form, if what the Dutchman repeatedly confirmed in his pre and post-press conferences is correct, that the manager of the football club doesn't know whether he'll be there or not.

Van Nistelrooy does not get a free pass in this abysmal season. The former Manchester United forward had a chant from the Foxes faithful for three games, but lost trust from supporters after starting Danny Ward in that defeat to Wolves.

The Dutchman has given the club an ultimatum by presenting his vision for next season. This is what he plans to do, loathe it and you need to get rid of him. But, despite being a bad appointment in the grand scheme of things, he is not the biggest problem at the club. Neither are the players, but there have been some embarrassing performances.

In years gone by, Leicester have watched on as clubs around England go through these sorts of periods of uncertainty. This time, it's they're the club who appear to be all at sea.

Fortunately, there are positives. Jeremy Monga, Jake Evans and Bade Aluko all making their senior debuts means there is reason for optimism. Adbul Fatawu confirming he should be back fit for pre-season, is a huge boost.

There's also the confirmation from Sheffield United that Hamza Choudhury and Harry Souttar will return to the club after they blew the chance of promotion at Wembley. Souttar is injured, but Choudhury has a real chance of starting on the first day of the Championship season in August.

Taking away the likes of Mads Hermansen, Wilfred Ndidi, Bilal El Khannouss and Wout Faes - players expected to say goodbye - there is still some good Championship players. Jakub Stolarczyk is a starter goalkeeper, he's proven that. Caleb Okoli, Conor Coady and Luke Thomas could be named in the first starting XI and there would not be massive uproar.

Ricardo Pereira, on his day, is brilliant. Despite the anger over his signing, Oliver Skipp isn't going anywhere and starts in the level below. Stephy Mavididi and Fatawu tormented defences last season. Throw in the exciting Monga and Evans plus any recruits, they have a good squad to play with.

Yet the wait for any communication over short-term and long-term strategy from Khun Top, someone who, despite the club's fall, received a decent reception on the final home game of the season, is concerning.

Leicester City fans hold up a banner in the away end at the Vitality Stadium during the 2-0 defeat to Bournemouth
Leicester City fans hold up a banner in the away end at the Vitality Stadium during the 2-0 defeat to Bournemouth (Image: Steven Paston/PA Wire)
Supporters deserve to know how the club hopes to correct what's happened over the past year. What's the plan to return Leicester to the Premier League and remove the dark grey cloud of PSR from over their heads?

More transparency is required. Some insight into the plans would be a start because this summer has the potential to either return the club back to the top-flight or replicate Luton Town's failure and be relegated down to League One.

 

That’s a really good write up by the LM for once. Sticking their neck out a bit. 
 

On a different note, I never had MM down as a bad owner. He stabled a singing ship, got players in through the door, promised to sell us to an owner who was a safe pair of hands. 
 

 

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Posted
31 minutes ago, lfu said:

I'd started to sour a bit on Rodgers in early 2021, I think the Leeds defeat, both West Ham losses, getting knocked out by Slavia Prague and bottling 4th place again really grated me, and I thought that since we'd won the FA Cup the only way was down and we wouldn't be able to keep upsetting the big six anymore. But I wasn't anywhere near brave enough to say that I wanted him out, I felt the results/FA Cup were still too good to justify that

Then the first half of the 2021/22 season was bad yeah, bottling Europa group stage, ultra inconsistent league form (the win-loss-draw-loss-win-loss-win-draw-etc sequence felt like it would never end), and the Tottenham and Forest losses sealed it for me as wanting him gone ASAP, especially when we went 5 league games without a win twice, but he still got 7 wins from the last 15 to keep his job safe and the fanbase happy. Lost all faith in Brodge that season

And that season ended with Roma away which was another utterly pathetic ‘performance’ 

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1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

And that season ended with Roma away which was another utterly pathetic ‘performance’ 

KPFC sucked it up because “we should be happy to be in a European semi final”

Posted
3 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Carlisle relegated out of the Football League. Fans pissed off with newish American ownership. Within a week issued an apology claiming error and responsibility. Two weeks later Mark Hughes confirmed as staying as manager. Just made their first signing for next season yesterday 

 

****ing Carlisle with their resources have worked quicker than us and have a worse position. 

The knock on effect from this will be the doubt as to who is in charge, then how long a new manager will take to be appointed, what players they want to bring in, want to keep, whether they will use the academy etc. All while wasting valuable time.

 

Honestly, we have known for six weeks we will be in this division as confirmed. From mid-March it was virtually nailed on and still we are not sure if the manager will stay and who the next one will be. 

 

What the fvck have they been doing!?

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