RVN needs to go.

[Iwebema]

Just now, Happy Fox said:

They are shitting their pants , mid table with this squad is what they thought 

If only this was a joke, can't tell you how deluded they were and still are.

[Mickyblueeyes]

It’s a bit weird that someone who claims to a man of integrity, walked out on a previous job, remains here after yesterday. 
 

Didn’t acknowledge the fans - not for the first time. (Yet wants us to get behind them - eh ?)

 

Ignored his players - I mean they are *****. But walking onto the pitch just to shake that Ref’s hand (alongside a few Brentford players) is weird. 
 

Marking of a manager who does want to be here, so is he ? It can’t be about the money - he is RVN, not Cooper and Rodgers - the man has made an incredible amount. He is destroying whatever rep based on his playing days the longer he is here. The players are not playing for him (they don’t seem to play for anyone ever!)

[Bourbon Fox]

3 hours ago, J. James said:

Love this post, I'll wager you're a massive game of thrones fan!

Bet you 10p you can't legitimately mention a dragon in your next post.

20p if you can get in "Trebuchet". 😐

It's much simpler than that, I'd had a few beers.

 

I always thought Game of Thrones was a bit camp.

[Dmitry]

1 hour ago, Iwebema said:

We would be in the same position possibly worse if we'd stuck with Cooper. 

How much worse we would’ve been? We are 19th, 6 points from safety.

[Bourbon Fox]

4 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

How much worse we would’ve been? We are 19th, 6 points from safety.

We've won 7 points under RVN, from a potential 42.

 

So couldn't have been *that* much worse.

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

No idea how people keep wheeling out excuses for this clown. So debunking a few below.

- Nobody could keep this lot up. Dubious at best, but other managers would atleast give us a bit of fight and be closer than we are. Moyes has took a struggling Everton side to mid table and made Beto gone from Akinbiyi to peak Drogba.

- He's been missing key players. Ndidi and Mads are now back fit and we're still garbage. Only players now missing are Abdul who is a 19 year old who played about 4 games and wasn't even a regular starter under Cooper, and Ricardo who looked horrendous against league 2 opposition in the Carabao.

- He hasn't got his coaching staff. Reason for that is 2 fold, one is he falls out with everyone so nobody wants to work with him, and secondly he managed literally 1 one season so won't have a 'staff' he takes everywhere.

- They're not his players. True, and some of Coopers signings were horrendous, but a decent manager galvanises team spirit and a good coach makes bad players look average and average ones look decent. He's done neither.

 

There's probably more. But we need this fella gone ASAP so a new manager can see what he has and needs for the Championship next season as this chancer won't hang around and we will be scrambling in the desperation bin. Look what Sheff U did, accepted relegation, brought Wilder in knowing he was the bloke the for Championship. Surely it can't cost a lot to be rid of him given nobody other than a second division German club wanted him so can't be on a big wedge. 

 

Don't get me wrong the entire club needs ripping up and starting again buy earliest that happens is the Summer, whereas we can atleast resolve this error today.

[Dan]

6 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

We may not be able to afford to sack RVN now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if there is a clause in his contract that enables us to get rid of him cheaply if we get relegated. So he may cling on until that is confirmed.

 

Martin would be an incredibly unpopular appointment and I just can’t see the club going out of its way to further piss off a very unhappy fanbase. Who that leaves us with I have no idea…

Think you're a lot less cynical than I am.

[LCFCJohn]

11 hours ago, Sly said:

He’s bot a captain in reality, let alone a head coach or manager. 
 

As some one out in another place, you don’t ask the Court Jester to become a King, 

Agreed. He’s the greatest we have had, his story is amazing.

 

But he’s clearly not a leader. As you say, the jester maybe. And I don’t even mean this is a negative way but he isn’t very professional  in terms of things like his pre-match routines. Yes we all love to hear about it and laugh about how it has got him where he is but he is unique. I don’t think he should be leading the team.

 

If we end up with an interim, it’ll be Barry-Murphy and King.

[fox_favourite]

7 hours ago, Iwebema said:

Nothing yet, as silly as this may sound I think the unexpected Wolves win has caused more panic. Reality has hit home, I'd imagine alot of conversations are happening.

Ah, an internal review....we know how that works 

 

The trash performances should have caused panic weeks ago. The unhappy fans should have been a clue. Someone else winning shouldn't. Shows how inept people at the club are again. 

 

To me, we were relegated when we lost to wolves and put in a shocking performance. That should have rang alarm bells. 

Edited 23 February by fox_favourite

[mozartfox]

I cannot imagine what Vichai would have made of this disaster.  First step is to remove Rudkin.  This is on his watch. Then the CFO and then the entire Recruitment Team.  Complete clear out and if it takes 2-3 seasons to get back to a serious Championship Contender, then so be it.  We have been here before ……several times in my life time.

[Happy Fox]

16 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

The trash performances should have caused panic weeks ago. The unhappy fans should have been a clue. Someone else winning shouldn't. Shows how inept people at the club are again. 

 

To me, we were relegated when we lost to wolves and put in a shocking performance. That should have rang alarm bells. 

The ineptitude has always been there, this board thought we would finish mid table with this squad of players which is crazy and defies belief.

 

[everton carr]

8 hours ago, The Doctor said:

it had nothing to do with forest, I get why pundits who don't even know how to spell Leicester say that but how do some of our supposed fans think that? people weren't having him because he was absolutely shit, from preseason you could already see it wasn't going to work, no tactical plan, no strategy beyond loading us up with expensive old players already proven not good enough at this level. we were outplayed by ****ing Russell Martin's Southampton until they had a clear penalty missed and a man sent off for Christ's sake

Expensive old players one was a free transfer the other £5M hardly broke the bank. Regarding the saints game we outplayed them in the 2nd half and the score was 2 all when they had a player sent off

[desertfox2]

8 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

They are shitting their pants , mid table with this squad is what they thought 

If that's true then that is exactly why we are in this mess. Apart from Hermansen, the other 10 players are worse than the 10 outfield players to a man that got relegated last time. Even the ones that are the same are older, like Vardy and Ndidi. Rodgers was also a way better tactician than both Cooper and RVN, he's just absolutely atrocious at signing players. If they really thought that this squad had mid table potential, then they are completely delusional. Look at the 11 that got relegated. Every single one of them that has left would be a huge upgrade on whoever is playing there now apart from Ward. 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, desertfox2 said:

If that's true then that is exactly why we are in this mess. Apart from Hermansen, the other 10 players are worse than the 10 outfield players to a man that got relegated last time. Even the ones that are the same are older, like Vardy and Ndidi. Rodgers was also a way better tactician than both Cooper and RVN, he's just absolutely atrocious at signing players. If they really thought that this squad had mid table potential, then they are completely delusional. Look at the 11 that got relegated. Every single one of them that has left would be a huge upgrade on whoever is playing there now apart from Ward. 

Delusions of grandeur is the operative word.

[Iwebema]

6 hours ago, Dmitry said:

How much worse we would’ve been? We are 19th, 6 points from safety.

The players turned on him and wanted him sacked, so the honest answer is likely we wouldn't of got another point. 

But it's also completely moot, he lost the dressing room and you don't come back from that, half the first team calling Top and Rudkin to complain about him wasn't going to end up with improved performances.

[Iwebema]

1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

Ah, an internal review....we know how that works 

 

The trash performances should have caused panic weeks ago. The unhappy fans should have been a clue. Someone else winning shouldn't. Shows how inept people at the club are again. 

 

To me, we were relegated when we lost to wolves and put in a shocking performance. That should have rang alarm bells. 

"But it's only 2 points" 

[fox_favourite]

37 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

"But it's only 2 points" 

Now that  I wouldn't be a surprised by. The numpties. 

 

How it was 2pts for so long is the surprising thing. We should have been dead and buried by now. 

Edited 23 February by fox_favourite

[Happy Fox]

36 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

"But it's only 2 points" 

Make that 5 points it’s only 5 points and 16 goals to make up on Wolves  get these charlatans in the boardroom shown the door.

 

 

[fox_favourite]

5 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Make that 5 points it’s only 5 points and 16 goals to make up on Wolves  get these charlatans in the boardroom shown the door.

 

 

Let's take a look at what Rudkin is doing at the moment....

 

 

Edited 23 February by fox_favourite

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, fox_favourite said:

Now that  I wouldn't be a surprised by. The numpties. 

 

How it was 2pts for so long is the surprising thing. We should have been dead and buried by now. 

The board thought we were going to catch Everton not a chance , since they hired Moyes they have been producing mid table league form. The club needs to be sold.

 

 

[teblin]

1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

I cannot imagine what Vichai would have made of this disaster.  First step is to remove Rudkin.  This is on his watch. Then the CFO and then the entire Recruitment Team.  Complete clear out and if it takes 2-3 seasons to get back to a serious Championship Contender, then so be it.  We have been here before ……several times in my life time.

The thing that makes no sense about the recruitment team.

 

Is how can the same team that found mads, bilial, fatawu. mavadidi(maybe not prem) and even akgun, bring in Ayew, Reid and Skipp,

[Happy Fox]

2 minutes ago, teblin said:

The thing that makes no sense about the recruitment team.

 

Is how can the same team that found mads, bilial, fatawu. mavadidi(maybe not prem) and even akgun, bring in Ayew, Reid and Skipp,

Cooper wanted those players with premier league experience…

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, everton carr said:

Expensive old players one was a free transfer the other £5M hardly broke the bank. Regarding the saints game we outplayed them in the 2nd half and the score was 2 all when they had a player sent off

yea, what I didn't do was check how old Skipp actually is because **** me, was his paper round in Mordor?

 

the score was 2-1 when they had a player sent off and should have been 3-1 with a clear penalty not given to them for Ayews WWE audition from a corner. 

 

[teblin]

1 minute ago, Happy Fox said:

Cooper wanted those players with premier league experience…

I guess so.

 

Again highlights that cooper was a disaster too.

[Iwebema]

6 minutes ago, teblin said:

The thing that makes no sense about the recruitment team.

 

Is how can the same team that found mads, bilial, fatawu. mavadidi(maybe not prem) and even akgun, bring in Ayew, Reid and Skipp,

Quite simply the answer is Cooper, whilst he didn't hand pick them, he asked them to find him premier league experience and between them that's what they came up with.

Edited 23 February by Iwebema