A good summary from the BBC

[reynard]

42 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Just said the same to friends. 
 

RvN does need to go, but he’s not the main problem. He’s a product of the main problem 

Absolutely nails it.

Trouble is we are now in a very difficult position to make the changes I think, many on here,  would like to see. I think it is really impractical to really replace both your DOF and first team manager and their coaches at the same time. Yet that is probably what really needs to happen. 

Getting a good DOF could take months, especially if that person has to give notice in a current position. Also as a largely absent owner Top needs a DOF that he can trust and this is where the problems start in my opinion.  Top relies on people that his father knew and employed and it is hard to give up those people and replace them with others you don't know as well or at all. Truth is it is easy for us on here to say it but much harder to do in reality. Though I'm not advocating it shouldn't be done.

It is also clear that things off the pitch are not right either, take the shirt sponsorship deal for eg. yet i think these issues probably need to be parked for a bit  as the problems on the pitch are far greater.

There must be serious doubts regarding Glover as head of recruitment too. Of course you can only operate with what resources you are given but a lot of the trouble lies with poor recruitment.

 

Personally I think we need a manager who can buy into a long term project, in the way that Pearson did for eg.  The DOF needs to be working now to involve player's agents and to frankly tell them that their player either does or does not have a future at the club. There needs to be much more effort to off load players who don't want to be at the club. Though, of course, their opinions might change depending on the manager appointed.

 

To be honest I wouldn't want to be in Top's shoes. He can either make no changes at all and hope things turn round and risk the situation deteriorating or he can make decisions which will be personally difficult for him. I'm not holding my breath the latter will happen.

 

 

[FrankieADZ]

9 minutes ago, Corky said:

He reads forums like this one as well.

thats why hes one of the best if not the best journo's around imo, hes actually does alot of research etc before he says stuff

unlike some

[Izzy]

'Dave from Birmingham' on BBC have your say. 

Leicester City getting exactly what they deserve. The fans/players got Ranieri sacked a few months after WINNING the PL. They got rid of Rodgers after he twice got them in the top six. They got rid of Cooper who wasn't fighting relegation just because he had managed a local club. A football club who think they are far bigger & better than they are.

Dave, Birmingham

[ashbyj]

Looks like TNT have been putting the boot in also..

 

[dmayne7]

 

I honestly don't get these people. Do they think that a) we have any control over it as fans, b) that they weren't the right decisions, and c) that a team should just accept they are going to be relegated. 

 

So odd

[Winstonthedog]

43 minutes ago, Izzy said:

'Dave from Birmingham' on BBC have your say. 

Leicester City getting exactly what they deserve. The fans/players got Ranieri sacked a few months after WINNING the PL. They got rid of Rodgers after he twice got them in the top six. They got rid of Cooper who wasn't fighting relegation just because he had managed a local club. A football club who think they are far bigger & better than they are.

Dave, Birmingham

Hi Dave ... thankyou for your comments... can I ask how many bin bags you have piled up in your streets ... and how you are coping With the stench 

[CUJimmy]

3 hours ago, reynard said:

Absolutely nails it.

Trouble is we are now in a very difficult position to make the changes I think, many on here,  would like to see. I think it is really impractical to really replace both your DOF and first team manager and their coaches at the same time. Yet that is probably what really needs to happen. 

Getting a good DOF could take months, especially if that person has to give notice in a current position. Also as a largely absent owner Top needs a DOF that he can trust and this is where the problems start in my opinion.  Top relies on people that his father knew and employed and it is hard to give up those people and replace them with others you don't know as well or at all. Truth is it is easy for us on here to say it but much harder to do in reality. Though I'm not advocating it shouldn't be done.

It is also clear that things off the pitch are not right either, take the shirt sponsorship deal for eg. yet i think these issues probably need to be parked for a bit  as the problems on the pitch are far greater.

There must be serious doubts regarding Glover as head of recruitment too. Of course you can only operate with what resources you are given but a lot of the trouble lies with poor recruitment.

 

Personally I think we need a manager who can buy into a long term project, in the way that Pearson did for eg.  The DOF needs to be working now to involve player's agents and to frankly tell them that their player either does or does not have a future at the club. There needs to be much more effort to off load players who don't want to be at the club. Though, of course, their opinions might change depending on the manager appointed.

 

To be honest I wouldn't want to be in Top's shoes. He can either make no changes at all and hope things turn round and risk the situation deteriorating or he can make decisions which will be personally difficult for him. I'm not holding my breath the latter will happen.

 

 

Some excellent points here.  

I think most of us agree that we need a new DoF, Manager, Scouting team and a largely new squad.  The problem is this is also the order in which these recruitments need to be made so realistically we are looking at 3 months minimum, even if Rudkin were sacked today, before the new person can start work on appointing a manager.  By this time we would be well into pre-season and there is little time to appoint a new manager and give them the opportunity to recruit before it all kicks off again.

 

The first question of course would be who would we trust to appoint a new DoF?

 

I hate to say it but we are fúcked.

[FrankieADZ]

my captain

[RonnieTodger]

Dave 😡 from Birmingham is so enraged by every sacking that he forgets Rodgers never 😡 would have 😡 won the FA Cup if we didn’t sack Ranieri 😡😡😡

[South Shire Fox]

7 hours ago, Haywood_6 said:

He's quickly becoming my favourite journalist

He also said Cooper was a great appointment in the summer

[420Hashish]

42 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

He also said Cooper was a great appointment in the summer

Terrorist football got us more points and goals tbh. Bad appointment for sure but there's always going to be the 'what if' question thrown around. 

[Winstonthedog]

1 hour ago, RonnieTodger said:

Dave 😡 from Birmingham is so enraged by every sacking that he forgets Rodgers never 😡 would have 😡 won the FA Cup if we didn’t sack Ranieri 😡😡😡

Dave from Birmingham is employed has a refuse collector and currently has to much time on his hands and sticking his nose into other people's business.... at night he is also know as Candy and is walking the streets picking up rubbish and then talking it 

[LCFCJohn]

19 hours ago, Izzy said:

'Dave from Birmingham' on BBC have your say. 

Leicester City getting exactly what they deserve. The fans/players got Ranieri sacked a few months after WINNING the PL. They got rid of Rodgers after he twice got them in the top six. They got rid of Cooper who wasn't fighting relegation just because he had managed a local club. A football club who think they are far bigger & better than they are.

Dave, Birmingham

I would love the irony if Dave from Birmingham is a Birmingham City fan given their treatment of Eustace and Rowatt.
 

Probably doesn’t support them though as that’d be a spectacular lack of awareness.

[UniFox21]

What I'm enjoying seeing is the number of pundits etc going in on the squad for disciplinary issues. 

[worth_the_wait]

"Dave from Birmingham" is actually probably "Nigel from Nottingham".

[Stadt]

22 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said:

"Dave from Birmingham" is actually probably "Nigel from Nottingham".

Pearson?