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Posted
13 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm a huge fan of Evans but Barnes mix of pace and intelligence has made him go far in the game. He was a very strong finisher in youth football as well as up to Championship level. It's true he found it harder to keep composure in the PL for the first 12-18 months but then massively improved.

 

I'm keen to see what happens with Evans, he seems to have everything bar flamboyance to take players on, better at beating them in a foot race than skill. He is one of the best finishers i've seen come through our academy but i'm still not sure he's best served as a 9. Wonder if he'd be better as a 10.

Clearly he doesn’t have the skill set of Monga but his stats speak for themselves.  he’s at an age where he has a lot of work to do to reach his potential.  He may not have it within himself to do that.  As Rama says, he may end up a mcateer at best,  but he also has the potential to become considerably better than that.  the bits I’ve seen of him don’t scream top quality like some others do and have in the past.  Maybe he’s not pushing on atm because he’d rather be elsewhere ?? 

Posted
20 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

Evans wouldn't make the top 5 ( maybe not even the top 10 LCFC Academy prospects over the years )

Not sure how people can come out with sweeping statements about how good a player is and then say they haven't even watched them play ( much )

Think Evans will end up with a similar profile to Kasey Mac so not exactly something to be sniffed at and will earn himself a good living

 

Time will tell

I respect that youre more knowledgeable about the youth teams than I am but considering you are comparing Jake Evans to Mcateer talent wise i doubt your judgement. Evans was the star player of our U16 cup final (his goal to win it was Harry Kane-esque), was one of the top scorers at u21 level last year and made his debut for the first team in the PL at 16. His career trajectory is not the same as a Mcateer.

 

 

Posted
15 hours ago, honeybradger said:

Evans? None but I dont think you have to watch a player in person to tell if theyre good or not.

So the club don't show u21 or u18 games, so what have you watched? The odd highlight and the odd game that other clubs have shown? 

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

So the club don't show u21 or u18 games, so what have you watched? The odd highlight and the odd game that other clubs have shown? 

There were quite a few games streamed by the opposition last season that i watched. Im not religiously following the youth teams but I've seen enough evidence to know that Evans is a serious talent.

 

I might just go to the next u21 game vs juventus so I can tick off this 'seen him in person' bollocks assuming it's open for anyone. Then I can finally be qualified to talk about our young players apparently.

Edited by honeybradger
Posted
13 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

There were quite a few games streamed by the opposition last season that i watched. Im not religiously following the youth teams but I've seen enough evidence to know that Evans is a serious talent.

It's a rather small sample size to make such a bold claim that he has a higher ceiling than KDH and Barnes. I hope you are right.

13 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

I might just go to the next u21 game vs juventus so I can tick off this 'seen him in person' bollocks assuming it's open for anyone. Then I can finally be qualified to talk about our young players apparently.

There is a reason clubs still send lots of scouts to games, so it not really bollock is it.

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

It's a rather small sample size to make such a bold claim that he has a higher ceiling than KDH and Barnes. I hope you are right.

There is a reason clubs still send lots of scouts to games, so it not really bollock is it.

 

 

I dont know about you but it looks the same in person as it does on a laptop screen, there's not some hidden insight you get from watching football in person it's mostly just for the atmosphere.

 

Clubs in general have realised this and are relying more and more on stats and video analysis rather than scout reports. 

 

I trust my own judgement when it comes to youth players, I remember first clocking Dewsbury Hall and thinking he was going to make it after a game against Southampton u21s, I also remember thinking Bassey was more likely to make it than Thomas when Thomas broke through. There are probably some i backed that didn't make it that I dont remember but I know what I see in Evans is the same and more than I saw in those two that did make it.

Posted

Our academy has produce some very good players in recent seasons.
 

Until they’re retired, it’ll be difficult to state which one is better than which. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sly said:

Our academy has produce some very good players in recent seasons.
 

Until they’re retired, it’ll be difficult to state which one is better than which. 

Chilwell for all the hate on here is probably the most successful recent time.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Chilwell for all the hate on here is probably the most successful recent time.


I’d agree on Chilwell, although KDH pushes him, depending how much value you place in the club World Cup. 

 

 

Dewsbury Hall - Championship, Club World Cup, Community Shield, UEfA Conference 

 

Chilwell - Premier League, Champions League, Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup

 

Barnes - FA Cup, Community Shield

 

Choudhury - FA Cup, Community Shield, Championship

 

Thomas - FA Cup, Community Shield, USFA U21 Euros

 

Stolarkzyk - Championship

 

Schlupp - Championship, Premiership, Scottish Premiership 

 

McAteer - League 2, Chanpionship

 

Marcel - Championship

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Sly said:


I’d agree on Chilwell, although KDH pushes him, depending how much value you place in the club World Cup. 

 

 

Dewsbury Hall - Championship, Club World Cup, Community Shield, UEfA Conference 

 

Chilwell - Premier League, Champions League, Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup

 

Barnes - FA Cup, Community Shield

 

Choudhury - FA Cup, Community Shield, Championship

 

Thomas - FA Cup, Community Shield, USFA U21 Euros

 

Stolarkzyk - Championship

 

Schlupp - Championship, Premiership, Scottish Premiership 

 

McAteer - League 2, Chanpionship

 

Marcel - Championship

Barnes has won the League Cup too

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Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, Sly said:


I’d agree on Chilwell, although KDH pushes him, depending how much value you place in the club World Cup. 

 

 

Dewsbury Hall - Championship, Club World Cup, Community Shield, UEfA Conference 

 

Chilwell - Premier League, Champions League, Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup

 

Barnes - FA Cup, Community Shield

 

Choudhury - FA Cup, Community Shield, Championship

 

Thomas - FA Cup, Community Shield, USFA U21 Euros

 

Stolarkzyk - Championship

 

Schlupp - Championship, Premiership, Scottish Premiership 

 

McAteer - League 2, Chanpionship

 

Marcel - Championship

Nelson has the Championship as well, played at least as many games as Wanya did

 

also you have to include King, League One, Championship and Premier League

Edited by Jimmy
Posted
41 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Barnes has won the League Cup too

 

4 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Nelson has the Championship as well, played at least as many games as Wanya did

 

also you have to include King, League One, Championship and Premier League


Good points! 
 

Overall, not a bad trophy county from our academy players! 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, Sly said:


I’d agree on Chilwell, although KDH pushes him, depending how much value you place in the club World Cup. 

 

 

Dewsbury Hall - Championship, Club World Cup, Community Shield, UEfA Conference 

 

Chilwell - Premier League, Champions League, Super Cup, Club World Cup, FA Cup

 

Barnes - FA Cup, Community Shield

 

Choudhury - FA Cup, Community Shield, Championship

 

Thomas - FA Cup, Community Shield, USFA U21 Euros

 

Stolarkzyk - Championship

 

Schlupp - Championship, Premiership, Scottish Premiership 

 

McAteer - League 2, Chanpionship

 

Marcel - Championship

Missed....

 

 

 

Bassey 

 

Travares 

 

Alves

 

Braybrooke

Posted
1 minute ago, goog said:

Missed....

 

 

 

Bassey 

 

Travares 

 

Alves

 

Braybrooke

Bassey won the title with Rangers I don't think the others have won anything yet?

Posted
On 05/09/2025 at 15:21, honeybradger said:

Losing Evans is unacceptable. If Monga didnt exist he would be the best prospect we have produced in the last few decades.

Ndukwu

And

Connor Tee 

 

We're arguably rated just as highly and that didn't turn out too well.

 

Prospects are exactly that, Prospects .

The highly rated one's don't always make it. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Bassey won the title with Rangers I don't think the others have won anything yet?

My bad. Didn’t realise you were listing what each had won. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, goog said:

Ndukwu

And

Connor Tee 

 

We're arguably rated just as highly and that didn't turn out too well.

 

Prospects are exactly that, Prospects .

The highly rated one's don't always make it. 

Neither were rated as highly as Evans, they didn't even make their first team debut. I dont remember there being that much fervour around them?

Posted

Who was the Aussie midfielder who got a broken leg twice/ I think he was highly rated.

Posted
4 minutes ago, davieG said:

Who was the Aussie midfielder who got a broken leg twice/ I think he was highly rated.

James Wesolowski

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Posted (edited)

Sidnei Tavares was very highly rated and had a few senior appearances before we lost him

 

24 this month and nowhere near the level he was probably expected to be at when he came through

Edited by moore_94

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