General News Thread

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, DJW1 said:

Is Keir Starmer a multi-millionaire?

Worth £10m / £15m isn't he? 

 

He's got more millions than I have hundreds! 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I'll ****ing have yoose you bastard 

 

Put up your dukes 

But yoush ma best fwend.

[CrazyKopCorner]

Just now, Trav Le Bleu said:

But yoush ma best fwend.

Ooh Fwend! 

 

Football Fwend! 

 

 

[Spudulike]

2 hours ago, DJW1 said:

Is Keir Starmer a multi-millionaire?

Dunno but he's lost the dressing room, fans and, like an injured player, Burnham get's better the longer he stays out.

 

He's a dream ticket for opposition parties and Labour's demise will go further and faster than Tory's in 2024. They won't recover within most of our lifetimes.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Are any of the Greens one ls just for saying 'free Palestine' by any chance? 

 

I agree with your last sentence nonetheless! 

I’ve seen a few grim comments from some standing and some elected. 
none are for saying something ‘reasonable’ like that

 

social media means that there are so many skeletons in so many cupboards 

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Are any of the Greens one ls just for saying 'free Palestine' by any chance? 

 

I agree with your last sentence nonetheless! 

It's quite clear what the vile, antisemetic sentiment is behind that phrase. Can't prove it though.

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Dunno but he's lost the dressing room, fans and, like an injured player, Burnham get's better the longer he stays out.

 

He's a dream ticket for opposition parties and Labour's demise will go further and faster than Tory's in 2024. They won't recover within most of our lifetimes.

One interesting corollary of the two main parties losing their grip in reasonably quick succession is that perhaps there might be an opportunity for the UK to move away from FPTP as a means of deciding governments. 

[StanSP]

16 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

It's quite clear what the vile, antisemetic sentiment is behind that phrase. Can't prove it though.

Saying Free Palestine is not vile or antisemitic, sorry. 

[Spudulike]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Saying Free Palestine is not vile or antisemitic, sorry. 

It is when it's shouted in the face of a Jew.

[Trav Le Bleu]

12 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

It is when it's shouted in the face of a Jew.

So it's context then.

 

Like saying, "I could eat a horse", is fine, but not at Ascot

[Trav Le Bleu]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

They’ll be livid when they realise it’s not the same menu ……

Rivid

[Bellend Sebastian]

Jess Phillips pulling no punches then.

 

Ouch

[Spudulike]

14 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

So it's context then.

 

Like saying, "I could eat a horse", is fine, but not at Ascot

No, it's nothing like that. 

[leicsmac]

And thus we arrive at the point where how much (or little) people conflate Judaism and Zionism becomes rather key to the discussion. 

 

Of course, this topic has gotten threads like this nixed in the past, and we're 591 (and counting) pages in, so...

[Detroit Blues]

7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And thus we arrive at the point where how much (or little) people conflate Judaism and Zionism becomes rather key to the discussion. 

 

Of course, this topic has gotten threads like this nixed in the past, and we're 591 (and counting) pages in, so...

So we're overdue.

[leicsmac]

Just now, Detroit Blues said:

So we're overdue.

I believe the best effort so far was 900-odd pages, but this one is taking a decent second place so far.

[CrazyKopCorner]

39 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Jess Phillips pulling no punches then.

 

Ouch

Taking a pasting from her is more than galling. 

 

Another complete waste of time minister 

[Leicesterpool]

He still not resigned yet

[Innovindil]

16 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

He still not resigned yet

I said before he'll stick his fingers in ears and sing la la la and keep carrying on until someone forces him to stop. Ironically it seems he's gone beyond that today and just actively said he's not gonna talk about the election results or his leadership, at all. 

 

Decent tactic all in all I guess. 

[AKCJ]

51 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

I said before he'll stick his fingers in ears and sing la la la and keep carrying on until someone forces him to stop.

Standard ministerial behaviour in Britain these days.

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

It's quite clear what the vile, antisemetic sentiment is behind that phrase. Can't prove it though.

it depends what it means to the person shouting it  - there are some who want freedom from occupation for those living in Gaza and the West Bank and some who want a one state democracy and some who want the area rid of Jews.

 it’s a vague chant - you’d assume deliberately so

im sure some will offer other interpretations 

so some of that spectrum is antisemitism if it effectively denies the Jewish people’s right to self determination under the IHRA definition 

 

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Saying Free Palestine is not vile or antisemitic, sorry. 

See above Sunil. Getting some people to be honest about what it means to them would be tricky.  
 

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

It is when it's shouted in the face of a Jew.

you’d assume if it’s being shouted in the face of a Jew then it’s from one end of that spectrum 

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, Innovindil said:

I said before he'll stick his fingers in ears and sing la la la and keep carrying on until someone forces him to stop. Ironically it seems he's gone beyond that today and just actively said he's not gonna talk about the election results or his leadership, at all. 

 

Decent tactic all in all I guess. 

He's a deluded mad man. 

 

They need to send in the men (and women) in white coats and drag the bugger out 

 

We don't ****ing want you capisce?!  

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

And thus we arrive at the point where how much (or little) people conflate Judaism and Zionism becomes rather key to the discussion. 

 

Of course, this topic has gotten threads like this nixed in the past, and we're 591 (and counting) pages in, so...

Those who say that there is no conflation 

again it depends on their Judaism 

 

A 2024–2025 survey by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research (JPR) shows British Jews maintain a strong emotional attachment to Israel (77%), yet hold overwhelmingly critical views of its government, with 76% disapproving of Netanyahu and 74% rating Israel’s overall situation as "bad" or "very bad"

So the vast majority of British Jews are zionists but have no truck with the current govt. 

I think that an big issue here is that the term Zionist has been bastardised over the past few years from its definition that Jews are entitled to self determination and a state in their ancestral homeland. 

[South Shire Fox]

4 hours ago, StanSP said:

Are any of the Greens one ls just for saying 'free Palestine' by any chance? 

 

I agree with your last sentence nonetheless! 

No, i think its more for calling Jewish people cockroaches, Holocaust denying and saying Jewish people were behind October 7th 😂. The Green party isnt just the tree huggers it used to be unfortunately  

[leicsmac]

30 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Those who say that there is no conflation 

again it depends on their Judaism 

 

A 2024–2025 survey by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research (JPR) shows British Jews maintain a strong emotional attachment to Israel (77%), yet hold overwhelmingly critical views of its government, with 76% disapproving of Netanyahu and 74% rating Israel’s overall situation as "bad" or "very bad"

So the vast majority of British Jews are zionists but have no truck with the current govt. 

I think that an big issue here is that the term Zionist has been bastardised over the past few years from its definition that Jews are entitled to self determination and a state in their ancestral homeland. 

I absolutely agree that the whole meaning and debate is subjective and it's therefore likely best for no one to make objective claims about it.