General News Thread

[RoboFox]

36 minutes ago, danny. said:

Not sure if that is satire or not? He's a complete 🤡, he can't even follow this basic conversation, it's an extremely basic point and it's completely over his head – and he's the energy secretary.
 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

You've just described Wes Streeting.  EM is a joker I'm afraid, how you've highlighted a decent communicator as his strength is presumably satire. 

Turning into a bit of an echo chamber in here fellas, don't you think? 

[Tommy G]

Just now, RoboFox said:

 

Turning into a bit of an echo chamber in here fellas, don't you think? 

And this is the response you get when you disagree with a point.....roll over and tickle my belly please other posters 

[Trav Le Bleu]

9 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

And this is the response you get when you disagree with a point.....roll over and tickle my belly please other posters 

How else do you get rep points?

[leicsmac]

34 minutes ago, danny. said:

Bit too complex for a Foxes Talk forum post but basically energy is sold off at the rate of the highest bidder. So if 98% of energy one day is from wind turbines and costs £2 per megawatt, and the remaining 2% needed comes from firing up a gas turbine for £200 a megawatt, everyone is paid £200 a megawatt, which means consumers are paying far more than is needed. 

*made up figures etc. just an example

Got it, thank you. 

 

That does seem wildly unnecessary, yes.

[Trav Le Bleu]

37 minutes ago, danny. said:

Bit too complex for a Foxes Talk forum post but basically energy is sold off at the rate of the highest bidder. So if 98% of energy one day is from wind turbines and costs £2 per megawatt, and the remaining 2% needed comes from firing up a gas turbine for £200 a megawatt, everyone is paid £200 a megawatt, which means consumers are paying far more than is needed. 

*made up figures etc. just an example

 

 

[Thefox81]

I know my workplace is suffering at the moment and my boss puts it squarely at the labour parties door. The NI thingy has crippled him (thats with a workforce of around 8 full time and 20 part time). He is having to cut hours massively. Even though he knows i voted labour my hours being head chef are secure thankfully. Guess 27 years proves my loyalty.

 

But it just goes to show how quickly things can change. Always thought my workplace would be there forever. As it has been in the family from my bosses grandad. It was only 15years ago he was paying us double time to work 90 odd hours a week from november till just after xmas.

 

Just hit home today as i said ive finished and looked for him to say see you tomorrow and hes locked in talks with the bank manager and our accountant. Sorry for the rant just needed to get it off my chest and think some of the things ive said relate to some recent posts on here.

[danny.]

48 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

 

I mean TBF it's not that complex, bit I massively oversimplified it. Maybe I should have put "I can't be arsed to type more than 3 lines".

This is also well worth a watch 

 

[reporterpenguin]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Can you elaborate on this some?

 

I'm interested in hearing more about the economic arguments because AFAIC the only such argument that really matters on this particular issue is "invest now or pay much, much more later, in more than money".

This explains really well how utterly bonkers our current model is.

[Thefox81]

23 minutes ago, reporterpenguin said:

This explains really well how utterly bonkers our current model is.

Good video. Helped a dummy like me understand more. Just wish it wasnt presented by someone who i thought was going to crack a joke at any second. Was kind of waiting for the punchline. However for an illiterate fool like me it was very interesting. Thank you.

 

 

Edited 7 October 2025 by Thefox81

[Thefox81]

1 hour ago, danny. said:

I mean TBF it's not that complex, bit I massively oversimplified it. Maybe I should have put "I can't be arsed to type more than 3 lines".

This is also well worth a watch 

 

See above ffs

[Lionator]

5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Bit of both, I think. 

 

Also, I think what also matters here is intent. China are clearly directing a lot of effort into clean energy initiatives and it is obvious that they also intend to continue doing so until the job is done, whatever that takes, because they know that whatever the cost, the cost of inaction is higher. Something other nations might learn from them. 

I don’t think Xi Jinping is some kind of environmental messiah, truth is that it’s lucrative for China because the global majority trust them more than any other major nation or bloc (EU). Look how many of our solar panels come from China too. They simply know how to get stuff done, cheaply, even if that’s unethically, while mostly following science which is a very low bar. 

[leicsmac]

42 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I don’t think Xi Jinping is some kind of environmental messiah, truth is that it’s lucrative for China because the global majority trust them more than any other major nation or bloc (EU). Look how many of our solar panels come from China too. They simply know how to get stuff done, cheaply, even if that’s unethically, while mostly following science which is a very low bar. 

Pretty much agree here, I'll just add that though the bar is low, it seems to be too high for quite a few leading global players at the present time who seem all too happy to bring on the global consequences of increasing average temperatures.

[Trav Le Bleu]

43 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I don’t think Xi Jinping is some kind of environmental messiah, truth is that it’s lucrative for China because the global majority trust them more than any other major nation or bloc (EU). Look how many of our solar panels come from China too. They simply know how to get stuff done, cheaply, even if that’s unethically, while mostly following science which is a very low bar. 

I've always wondered.... Is he the 11th Jinping to rule China?

 

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, danny. said:

I mean TBF it's not that complex, bit I massively oversimplified it. Maybe I should have put "I can't be arsed to type more than 3 lines".

This is also well worth a watch 

 

 

1 hour ago, reporterpenguin said:

This explains really well how utterly bonkers our current model is.

Appreciate the useful info dump, both. 

[Foxdiamond]

5 hours ago, bovril said:

The angry white men stuff is cringey and immediately undermines his argument

It may be naive of me but I would love if all English people of all colours and creed etc etc could be comfortable and happy  to see the English flag in all situations. The same goes for all British people regarding the Union flag. It seems OK for other flags to be shown and tolerance is expected and no questions asked as to the motives. 

[danny.]

4 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

It may be naive of me but I would love if all English people of all colours and creed etc etc could be comfortable and happy  to see the English flag in all situations. The same goes for all British people regarding the Union flag. It seems OK for other flags to be shown and tolerance is expected and no questions asked as to the motives. 

Welcome to the extreme far right, comrade

[Foxdiamond]

15 minutes ago, danny. said:

Welcome to the extreme far right, comrade

Always voted Labour myself

[Lionator]

Trump is insane isn’t he? Hasn’t got the foggiest clue what’s going on strategically. 

[Tommy G]

39 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Trump is insane isn’t he? Hasn’t got the foggiest clue what’s going on strategically. 

He’s only bothered about the stock market and foreign aliens 

[Parafox]

12 hours ago, Raj said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy85zlpwne6o

 

 

🙄🙄

 

I don't sit well with what Jenerick said, but Badenoch's response was shallow and weak.

 

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said she did not know the context of the recording but that Jenrick may have been "making an observation" about his visit to the area.

"I heard that one of the MPs of that area was accusing him of racism. I completely disagree with that, I want to make that very clear," she told BBC Breakfast.

 

 I wonder what her response would have been if a Labour MP had said the same?

[danny.]

11 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I don't sit well with what Jenerick said, but Badenoch's response was shallow and weak.

 

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said she did not know the context of the recording but that Jenrick may have been "making an observation" about his visit to the area.

"I heard that one of the MPs of that area was accusing him of racism. I completely disagree with that, I want to make that very clear," she told BBC Breakfast.

 

 I wonder what her response would have been if a Labour MP had said the same?

What did he say that was racist?

[Lionator]

11 minutes ago, danny. said:

What did he say that was racist?

He’s cosplaying Enoch Powell except he doesn’t have authenticity unlike Enoch (I listened to yesterdays rest is history episode). An utterly pathetic man.

Edited 7 October 2025 by Lionator

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, danny. said:

What did he say that was racist?

Directly? Nothing. 

 

Indirectly through inference? The idea that he appears to consider an entirely "nonwhite" area as a source of discomfort for himself without mentioning if an entirely "white" area would make him feel the same way is a proper dog-whistle.

 

Edit: to add to this and repeat a point made before, if someone like Jenrick clearly doesn't make any distinction between types of "brown faces" that he sees, why would anyone expect anyone else who thinks like him to do likewise when setting policy?

Edited 7 October 2025 by leicsmac

[danny.]

The guy is a pillock, but I didn't see anything racist from what he's reported to have said. Just devalues the word even more when people throw it around a synonym for general distain of someone.

Edited 7 October 2025 by danny.
typo

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

Trump is insane isn’t he? Hasn’t got the foggiest clue what’s going on strategically. 

Carney visiting the WH today, apparently. 

 

Hope he demonstrates the same attitude towards Felon#47 as the average Canada goose would.