Richmondfox Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 8 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: Yet James has looked class most of the season. Yep, he does his role really really well when allowed to. Get the ball deep and drive forwards, making space for others and arriving in the box. Fatawu isn’t on the same wavelength as him. They drift too close to each other but Dayawu doesn’t make runs into the space. He’s so good at running and crossing quickly yet it seems like he avoided it to try and skin players while standing still. Fatawu and Mav need someone to drill the roles into them. They make so many poor choices constantly that they didn’t do under Enzo. Thomas and Ricardo add little to nothing because it’s all about getting the ball back to JV so he can drift out of position and pass into the middle.
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, Mickyblueeyes said: we’ve mixed it around so much in so many positions, we are approaching mid season and yet to have built up any partnerships. We have played a consistent team over the last 4 games but like I said we have one ok player for each position and no goal scorer, with injuries and players not putting in a shift you are going to have to find a solution by trying different teams, our squad is thin bare and we are relying on youth products to make up the numbers. The damage was done a long time ago.
Richmondfox Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 9 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: That's not really happened for a while though, he has also managed to get Skipp looking like he has a role in the team. Our problem is we have no goal scorer and most positions we have one ok player for each position at best. Skipp looks so much better when it’s flowing quickly out of the back and we aren’t inviting the pressure. The JV led control, press and eventual chaos he looks poor again like yesterday. 1
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, Richmondfox said: Skipp looks so much better when it’s flowing quickly out of the back and we aren’t inviting the pressure. The JV led control, press and eventual chaos he looks poor again like yesterday. We don't have anyone else to play instead of Vesterguard though ?
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Nearly 20 goals conceded in his last 10, including a few wins For perspective at that rate over a season that’s over 87 goals conceded. These huge red flags are excusable, the flip side of that is that his team barely creates fck all 14th for xG goals. 1
cityfanlee23 Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, Wymsey said: Why are people expecting him to be sacked when the club is struggling a bit and trying to tighten its purse? I guess, but the question becomes, will we be financially better off if we sack him now, or wait until we finish 16th and get nothing, when a new manager could potentially squeak us into the playoffs? It's a bit of a gamble in the sense a new manager could even take us down, but we know for sure Marti isn't taking us up, and we are in a surprising position right now that even with how awful we have been that we are in touch with the playoff places on the sheer luck that the rest of the league are just as inconsistent as we are. A semi-decent manager with a track record for getting the most out of an average bunch would have us top 6. Neil Warnock would be a monumental upgrade at this point in time, MC is out of his depth. Edited 21 December 2025 by cityfanlee23 1
Leicester_Loyal Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 He's crap, but getting rid of him, the club won't get anyone good, they'll appoint a yes man who will tow the line and do as they say, as usual. I honestly don't know where we go from here, there's much better managers out there but will they come here? Will people like Mowbray put up with having no funds and having an idiotic owner and DoF? I don't know. Short term Marti needs to go, but long term the DoF and the owner need to go. 2
Richmondfox Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: We don't have anyone else to play instead of Vesterguard though ? This excuse that keeps getting rolled out. This is on the manager. He has to change the faults in the player. Get him to stop making the same mistakes and drill a solid tactic into them. The JV pass to whoever is the striker in a crowded area, after they are sitting back and our team is really high up. How many times has it worked and how many times has it caused a counter. How many times had JV ignored a quick pass only to make a run himself and lose it high up the pitch. The slowest, tallest and weakest player we have can drift out of position and lose it so often. How many times has Ayew held onto the ball and ignored players and maybe pass once the momentum is over. Marti is watching Ricardo and Thomas pass backwards. If they pass forwards it’s from too deep and they usually stand still, there is no instinct for them to overlap and provide support. If someone actually does the wingers then are greedy and won’t pass. This is all down to the manager letting the behaviour on the pitch happen. Edited 21 December 2025 by Richmondfox 2
coolhandfox Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 14 minutes ago, honeybradger said: Im not saying he's crap, im just saying that the squad and culture and whatever else that he left us with was not good. Maybe he would have done a better job than Cooper and RVN but in terms of leaving the club in a healthy state so that the next manager can benefit, which Pearson and Puel did, Maresca absolutely did not do. He had 1 summer and one season, Pearson had nearly 3 season, and Puel came into a very different club. 14 minutes ago, honeybradger said: In terms of culture you cant factor out the way he left which left us in disarray and the whole "this is the way we play" mentality being drilled into the players made it an impossible job for the next manager to put his tactical stamp on the team. How we play isn't really about culture, nothing Enzo did made it impossible for the next manager. 14 minutes ago, honeybradger said: Also many of his favourites, Faes, Winks, Mavididi (who i like but he gives up too easily), Vestergaard and also Fatawu (who is our best player but also temperamental) are part of the culture problem at this club. Maresca didn't leave us any leaders. Again he had one window.
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, Richmondfox said: This excuse that keeps getting rolled out. This is on the manager. He has to change the faults in the player. Get him to stop making then making same mistakes and drill. The JV pass to whoever is the striker in a crowded area, after they are sitting back and our team is really high up. How many times has it worked and how many times has it caused a counter. How many times had JV ignored a quick pass only to make a run himself and lose it high up the pitch. The slowest, tallest and weakest player we have can drift out of position and lose it so often. How many times has Ayew held onto the ball and ignored players and maybe pass once the momentum is over. Marti is watching Ricardo and Thomas pass backwards. If they pass forwards it’s from too deep and they usually stand still, there is no instinct for them to overlap and provide support. If someone actually does the wingers then are greedy and won’t pass. This is all down to the manager letting the behaviour on the pitch happen. It's been happening under Marti and the previous 3 managers.. No manager is turning Vesterguard into a good defender and he is the only option we have at the minute. Same with regards to Ayew he ignores players and the attack dies down I doubt Marti wants him to do that, again we don't have another option. 1
FOXSE Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Im not one to want to chop and change managers, and after the last few results things were looking brighter. I don't really know how to explain yesterday, basically the same team that pressed Ipswich all over the pitch seemed to not be able to get anywhere near the mighty QPR! In short,we basically have a good enough squad to at least make the playoff, possible get 2nd, from here. But I can't see it with cifuentes if games like yesterday can happen. Also, I just can't watch Luke Thomas constantly backing off and letting wingers wander into the box causing extra danger, so how can cifuentes? Earlier in the season, I was saying let's go three at the back. We have enough central defenders, let's do it,then we don't have to play Thomas. We did go three at the back at one point and he still picked Thomas! Astonishing really.
Chelmofox Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 10 minutes ago, Richmondfox said: This excuse that keeps getting rolled out. This is on the manager. He has to change the faults in the player. Get him to stop making the same mistakes and drill a solid tactic into them. The JV pass to whoever is the striker in a crowded area, after they are sitting back and our team is really high up. How many times has it worked and how many times has it caused a counter. How many times had JV ignored a quick pass only to make a run himself and lose it high up the pitch. The slowest, tallest and weakest player we have can drift out of position and lose it so often. How many times has Ayew held onto the ball and ignored players and maybe pass once the momentum is over. Marti is watching Ricardo and Thomas pass backwards. If they pass forwards it’s from too deep and they usually stand still, there is no instinct for them to overlap and provide support. If someone actually does the wingers then are greedy and won’t pass. This is all down to the manager letting the behaviour on the pitch happen. You can't make players do things they are not capable of. Vestergaard cant be transformed into a dynamic, fast matching winning CB. He plays how he plays. Same with Bobby and Ayew. Younger players however, have the opportunity to develop by it takes time. I think Marti isn't good enough, but I feel he had to be pragmatic with what hes got. I imagine he gets as frustrated as i do watching Ayew hold up the play then fall over (and get nothing) and we watch our opposition counter attack. I bet he would love the version of Ricardo Rodgers had. I bet he would love a functioning Striker. He is limited with what he has. 1
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 15 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: No manager is turning Vesterguard into a good defender 2
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: Whut ? Edited 21 December 2025 by whoareyaaa
trooky Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 26 minutes ago, Richmondfox said: This excuse that keeps getting rolled out. This is on the manager. He has to change the faults in the player. Get him to stop making the same mistakes and drill a solid tactic into them. The JV pass to whoever is the striker in a crowded area, after they are sitting back and our team is really high up. How many times has it worked and how many times has it caused a counter. How many times had JV ignored a quick pass only to make a run himself and lose it high up the pitch. The slowest, tallest and weakest player we have can drift out of position and lose it so often. How many times has Ayew held onto the ball and ignored players and maybe pass once the momentum is over. Marti is watching Ricardo and Thomas pass backwards. If they pass forwards it’s from too deep and they usually stand still, there is no instinct for them to overlap and provide support. If someone actually does the wingers then are greedy and won’t pass. This is all down to the manager letting the behaviour on the pitch happen. Four managers have tried and failed to change the faults in these players, how more many managers will we hire and sack before realise these players are the major problem. 2
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 5 minutes ago, trooky said: Four managers have tried and failed to change the faults in these players, how more many managers will we hire and sack before realise these players are the major problem. It’s one thing players not being good enough for world class opposition in the top flight, it’s another for the dross standard in this league 2
David Hankey Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 9 minutes ago, trooky said: Four managers have tried and failed to change the faults in these players, how more many managers will we hire and sack before realise these players are the major problem. Like going back to the days of Mandaric hiring and firing.
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 21 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: It’s one thing players not being good enough for world class opposition in the top flight, it’s another for the dross standard in this league Last time we was in the Championship we had KDH Ndidi Vardy Hermansen Justin Nacho That was half the first team with 2 adequate strikers. 1
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, whoareyaaa said: Last time we was in the Championship we had KDH Ndidi Vardy Hermansen Justin Nacho That was half the first team with 2 adequate strikers. What’s that got to do with anything, being good enough for this league doesn’t mean winning it at a canter. There has also been at additional £40m investment in the squad since we were promoted that most clubs in this division could only dream of, not to mention James and Ramsey that walk into every team.
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, HankMarvin said: What’s that got to do with anything, being good enough for this league doesn’t mean winning it at a canter. There has also been at additional £40m investment in the squad since we were promoted that most clubs in this division could only dream of, not to mention James and Ramsey that walk into every team. Who have we invested 40million into since we was promoted ? Skipp and Ayew. Brilliant. Ramsey has not been available for most of the season so that just leaves James. You must be part of the recruitment team.
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, whoareyaaa said: Who have we invested 40million into since we was promoted ? Skipp and Ayew. Brilliant. Ramsey has not been available for most of the season so that just leaves James. You must be part of the recruitment team. You’re the type of poster that that is still making excuses for the manager when the team is in 22nd place. Logic comes late to the party, 2
whoareyaaa Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, HankMarvin said: You’re the type of poster that that is still making excuses for the manager when the team is in 22nd place. Logic comes late to the party, I would not be bothered if he went honestly, it wont make a jot of difference though that's my opinion.
Lambert09 Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 1 hour ago, Richmondfox said: Yep, he does his role really really well when allowed to. Get the ball deep and drive forwards, making space for others and arriving in the box. Fatawu isn’t on the same wavelength as him. They drift too close to each other but Dayawu doesn’t make runs into the space. He’s so good at running and crossing quickly yet it seems like he avoided it to try and skin players while standing still. Fatawu and Mav need someone to drill the roles into them. They make so many poor choices constantly that they didn’t do under Enzo. Thomas and Ricardo add little to nothing because it’s all about getting the ball back to JV so he can drift out of position and pass into the middle. I have a very strong feeling that Marti has told them to just go and do their thing. And as you’ve pointed out, both probably benefitted from someone like Enzo having specific instructions. 1
HankMarvin Posted 21 December 2025 Posted 21 December 2025 Just now, whoareyaaa said: I would not be bothered if he went honestly, it wont make a jot of difference though that's my opinion. The quality of the players is subjective to the league, Skipp would’ve probably walked in to every team in the division prior to this season and the same with Ayew with 5 goals in a struggling prem team and Okoli. Just because they have been underwhelming for a underwhelming manager doesn’t mean they should all be written off as dog shit in this league. Steve Cooper walked into a forest team bottom who finished 17th the previous season. They didn’t get 11 new players before getting promoted the same season. He installed “belief” and he had experience of 2 play off finishes. We got a manager with experience of mid table and that’s where we are heading. 1
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