Cifuentes OUT

[lcfc sheff]

9 minutes ago, Fox85 said:

Surely not spending any money in the summer should mean we can atleast stretch to 25 million at least.

 

 

Presume you are on the wind up, merry Christmas 

[gurru991]

Top fed us some  bullshit a while ago about change at our club but nothing has changed. We are headed towards a transfer window not knowing if the Manager will be backed or if our points deduction will be 2 or 22.  We have managed to piss off the clubs employees & Rudkin is still steering the ship with his eyes closed.

Firing the manager & letting Top & his bum buddy choose the next one makes zero sense.

[cruzFOX]

Marti was really angry (again) in the post match interview! Seems to be a common thing with him.

 

i thought clemency’s analysis on bbc Leicester sport was spot on. These players lack consistency in mental preparedness and clarity or perspective. How many games this season have they conceded a goal in the first 10 min? It’s happening way too often.

something is not right and it’s Marti’s job to sort it out no excuses!

[CarolinaFox]

4 hours ago, Fox85 said:

If we dont BACK him then we need to SACK him.

 

He needs atleast 40 million or even just 25 million to buy a new defence and a striker in January possibly with a few loans.

 

If the club are not prepared to do that then they just need to sack him because what he is trying to do with this team he has at his disposal is just not working.

 

I cannot even tell you what he is trying to do because its all over the place with 0 consistency 

It would be cheaper to sack him then right? The problem for Marti isn't squad talent, its footballing philosophy. He's too cautious, too risk averse. We have one of the best squads in this league, but his approach cripples that advantage. Giving Marti new players won't solve the failings of his footballing philosophy. To win in this league you have to be aggressive, exploit squad talent differences, play with belief and most importantly: play with consistency. There isn't a scenario in which Marti has us finishing higher than mid table. He's not a promotion manager, he's the guy you bring into to stop the rot. He plays to prevent a loss, but not to win.  

Edited 22 December 2025 by CarolinaFox

[gurru991]

25 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

Marti was really angry (again) in the post match interview! Seems to be a common thing with him.

 

i thought clemency’s analysis on bbc Leicester sport was spot on. These players lack consistency in mental preparedness and clarity or perspective. How many games this season have they conceded a goal in the first 10 min? It’s happening way too often.

something is not right and it’s Marti’s job to sort it out no excuses!

These players have been playing football since they were six years old & really shouldn't need a pep rally to get prepared for a game.!!  The players themselves have to accept responsibility for their lack of concentration & mental weakness. Marti needs to bench players such as Ayew who don't show up for a game.

At least if we play a youngster we know we'll get 100% effort.

I still maintain that the team is a mid-table squad but not trying is unforgivable!!

[coolhandfox]

8 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Yes but we cannot wait for maybe in our predicament, we need to be decisive, Marti will not get us promotion his ceiling is very low, the fact that QPR have a better manager than us says it all, it's quite frankly disgraceful.

I wasn't saying anything about him staying, just that we don't know.

[whoareyaaa]

3 hours ago, cruzFOX said:

Marti was really angry (again) in the post match interview! Seems to be a common thing with him.

 

i thought clemency’s analysis on bbc Leicester sport was spot on. These players lack consistency in mental preparedness and clarity or perspective. How many games this season have they conceded a goal in the first 10 min? It’s happening way too often.

something is not right and it’s Marti’s job to sort it out no excuses!

We haven't improved the defense for years and people wonder why we are so fragile

Edited 22 December 2025 by whoareyaaa

[gurru991]

3 hours ago, CarolinaFox said:

It would be cheaper to sack him then right? The problem for Marti isn't squad talent, its footballing philosophy. He's too cautious, too risk averse. We have one of the best squads in this league, but his approach cripples that advantage. Giving Marti new players won't solve the failings of his footballing philosophy. To win in this league you have to be aggressive, exploit squad talent differences, play with belief and most importantly: play with consistency. There isn't a scenario in which Marti has us finishing higher than mid table. He's not a promotion manager, he's the guy you bring into to stop the rot. He plays to prevent a loss, but not to win.  

I have to disagree!!!

I don't think we have one of the best squads in the league. We don't have a centre forward ( striker )... our left back & right back are both struggling but for different reasons  .. our mid-field is decent & our wingers are are iffy .. Fatuwa can be good but Mavidi is poor. 

[JimJams]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

We haven't improved the defense for years and people wonder why we are so fragile

Whilst I do agree, they shouldn't be THIS fragile.  A league 2 defence would hold out better than we do in many first halves.  Being 3 or 4 down by half time on multiple occasions, with incredibly early goals is an absolute failing on the setup as well as the personnel. 

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, JimJams said:

Whilst I do agree, they shouldn't be THIS fragile.  A league 2 defence would hold out better than we do in many first halves.  Being 3 or 4 down by half time on multiple occasions, with incredibly early goals is an absolute failing on the setup as well as the personnel. 

I can't say its down to setup more likely the personnel as we haven't improved it since Rodgers left and we got relegated.

[Tuna]

I begin to wonder what the tipping point will be for King Power; entering the relegation zone? 4 defeats on the trot? Who knows. Ruud stayed on for ages after it was obvious he was out of his depth. Cooper, however seemed rather abrupt in the context of playing Chelsea after an international break.

[jim5000]

2 hours ago, JimJams said:

Whilst I do agree, they shouldn't be THIS fragile.  A league 2 defence would hold out better than we do in many first halves.  Being 3 or 4 down by half time on multiple occasions, with incredibly early goals is an absolute failing on the setup as well as the personnel. 

Yep, it’s a chronic failing of our squad that was abundant under Ruud as well. 
 

We don’t battle out draws. When was the last time we had a close hard fought match that went to the wire? So often over the last two seasons the match has been effectively over within the first 20-30 minutes.

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 hours ago, JimJams said:

Whilst I do agree, they shouldn't be THIS fragile.  A league 2 defence would hold out better than we do in many first halves.  Being 3 or 4 down by half time on multiple occasions, with incredibly early goals is an absolute failing on the setup as well as the personnel. 

A year today since the first half collapse on the relegation 6 pointer v Wolves. Started that game outside the bottom 3. Wolves had conceded 40 or so goals. Couldn’t create a chance. Cunha hadn’t signed the new deal at that time. 
 

We gifted them 3 goal. Without a fight. We had guys like Vestegaard, Ayew and Maviidi playing at that game. You’d think there be a “never again” mentality after that. We collapse multiple times that season and have this season. 
 

It’s very sad that pre-game that must be thought/fear  for a lot of us. 

[gurru991]

It's kind of funny in that there are two school of thought here. One group thinks that we have a good squad & a shit manager & another group thinks that the squad is shit & that the manager might be OK. I'm in the latter group that thinks the squad that Marti inherited is shit & it's hard to tell if if Marti is any good or not.    The display against QPR was disgraceful with players looking like they didn't give two shits.

The sequence of events has to be that the team gets refreshed & then see if MC can do anything with it & replace him then if he fails.

Bringing in another manager to try & get a tune out of this bunch is just a waste of time.

[Dan]

Cifuentes getting angry about it just doesn't wash anymore. That's barely even the barest minimum. He's proven he can't fix it.

 

We're completely stuck. We're simply expecting him to hold the fort. Appears to me the expectation this season is to avoid relegation, as I'd imagine being close to that is the only thing that would get him the sack.

[john ridley]

He's always  angry ,load of bollocks ,no one cares or gives a **** ,we're fvcked. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

6 hours ago, gurru991 said:

It's kind of funny in that there are two school of thought here. One group thinks that we have a good squad & a shit manager & another group thinks that the squad is shit & that the manager might be OK. I'm in the latter group that thinks the squad that Marti inherited is shit & it's hard to tell if if Marti is any good or not.    The display against QPR was disgraceful with players looking like they didn't give two shits.

The sequence of events has to be that the team gets refreshed & then see if MC can do anything with it & replace him then if he fails.

Bringing in another manager to try & get a tune out of this bunch is just a waste of time.

I am actually in another camp, whilst our recruitment has been woeful and this is the worst squad we have had in the KP era, it is still strong enough to be competing for at least the play offs as a minimum and there is absolutely no way we should be 4-0 down at half time to a side like QPR 

 

The squad needs a refresh and reset as the mentality is poor but a good manager would at least instil some tactical basics to ensure we are continually out of games by half time, it has happened in 3 of our last 7 games. 
 

This is a poor squad in comparison to the last 10-12 years but is still on paper head and shoulders above the likes of Hull, Preston, Millwall etc who are all ahead of us, therefore showing that their managers are more tactically astute and have the ability to get their groups to out perform which is something our manager has failed to achieve this season. 
 

Again this is not mutually exclusive, one or the other, my believe is this squad could and should be performing better than mid table in the championship, losing 7 games already and conceding 31 goals. We are virtually half way through the season and are yet to witness more than a couple, if any, real 90 minute performances, we are woefully inconsistent and incapable of stringing more than 2 or 3 positive results together. 
 

The squad could do with a refresh however I also have concerns as to the quality of the manager. He is appearing to be more of a championship version of Cooper and it’s not working. 

[teblin]

There is lots more wrong at the club and it’s not just about the manager but 4 games this season have pretty much been over by half time QPR, Hull, Southampton and Sheffield Utd and Blackburn by 63 minutes. Also there is the games the other way where we have been terrible in 2nd half’s, Bristol, Wrexham and Portsmouth.
 

The games we have won have been with magic rather than plans or at least some of them.

 

There is no plan, or doesn’t seem to be. I know he speaks about foxes never quit but it seems the opposite most of the time. I just feel like he’s not quite good enough. 
 

Despite the squad I do think a better manager, who keeps it a little simpler might have us more competitive.

 

 

[ClaphamFox]

59 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am actually in another camp, whilst our recruitment has been woeful and this is the worst squad we have had in the KP era, it is still strong enough to be competing for at least the play offs as a minimum and there is absolutely no way we should be 4-0 down at half time to a side like QPR 

 

The squad needs a refresh and reset as the mentality is poor but a good manager would at least instil some tactical basics to ensure we are continually out of games by half time, it has happened in 3 of our last 7 games. 
 

This is a poor squad in comparison to the last 10-12 years but is still on paper head and shoulders above the likes of Hull, Preston, Millwall etc who are all ahead of us, therefore showing that their managers are more tactically astute and have the ability to get their groups to out perform which is something our manager has failed to achieve this season. 
 

Again this is not mutually exclusive, one or the other, my believe is this squad could and should be performing better than mid table in the championship, losing 7 games already and conceding 31 goals. We are virtually half way through the season and are yet to witness more than a couple, if any, real 90 minute performances, we are woefully inconsistent and incapable of stringing more than 2 or 3 positive results together. 
 

The squad could do with a refresh however I also have concerns as to the quality of the manager. He is appearing to be more of a championship version of Cooper and it’s not working. 

There is a lot of truth in what you say, but I think you’re missing something important. Success in football is not just down to a combination of squad strength and the quality of the manager. Club culture also plays a very important role. And there’s every indication that our club culture has become rotten.

 

Unfortunately there is a limit to what most managers will be able to achieve in a club with a rotten culture. An elite level manager might have a big enough personality to transform the culture, but elite managers are hard to come by. So until there are profound changes in how we operate as a club, changing the manager again may have very little impact.

 

 

 

Edited 23 December 2025 by ClaphamFox

[winteriscoming]

I just think we could be doing better. 
Not saying we’d be 10 points clear at the top but at the very least being in the playoff spots. 
If he stays until the end of the season I genuinely don’t think we’ll win 3 league games on trot. 
His win rate will always hover around 35% with us which should be a lot higher. 
As I’ve stated before if he was a British manager we’d of never even considered him based on what he did at QPR. 
But because he goes on about being inspired by Barcelona, Top and Ruskin would have loved hearing that. 
Imo he’s an average championship manager. 
I think we could do better even in our financial situation we’re in. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

There is a lot of truth in what you say, but I think you’re missing something important. Success in football is not just down to a combination of squad strength and the quality of the manager. Club culture also plays a very important role. And there’s every indication that our club culture has become rotten.

 

Unfortunately there is a limit to what most managers will be able to achieve in a club with a rotten culture. An elite level manager might have a big enough personality to transform the culture, but elite managers are hard to come by. So until there are profound changes in how we operate as a club, changing the manager again may have very little impact.

 

 

 

I do agree regards culture, however the manager can and should play a large part in creating / driving the culture, granted it helps if the owner doesn’t have an communication line to certain players over and above the managers head. 
 

However a strong leader with some level of tactical acumen should be able to cojole enough of this group to become competitive in this league and capable of at least being in the play offs. 
 

at the time they joined the club, Brian Little, Nigel Pearson and Enzo Maresca were far from elite level managers but they came in to our club at different times when it was on its arse and managed to completely flip the culture and our fortunes. So it can be done. 

[HarryTheGenie]

Leadership - The biggest problem at the club is culture. That comes from the top, pun not intended. Aiyawatt is AWOL most of the time, Rudkin runs the club day-to-day, he clearly isn't respected by players or fans and makes poor decision after poor decision on recruitment and retention. He is teflon. The club is a rudderless ghost ship.

 

The squad - 6 out of the 10 highest earners in the division play for us, 4 of them can't get a game (Winks, Faes, Soumare, Daka) they are exactly why we struggle as it's probably £1m a month in wages on them alone, imagine this better invested! The other 2 are Skipp and Vestergaard. Vestergaard is everything that is wrong with this club too, honking attitude, toys out of the pram on multiple occasions, on the pitch slow cumbersome and horrendous attitude. Like it or not, Ayew is the best option up front, I hate to say this as I think he is a horrible footballer, another with a poor attitude, but other than playing an unproven 17 year old there, he's the best option. (For what it's worth I'd rather see the 17 year old!)

Our Captain's legs are failing him, another I'd imagine on top money, our vice-captain is the drink-driving oaf who should of been sold/released/disposed of long ago! We gave a 4 year contract doubling our Left-back's wages when it is highly doubtful he is capabale of consistency in this division. We have a bang average goalkeeper. Our starting wingers have shocking attitudes and are Jekyll/Hyde type performers, more often Hyde. The squad have been weak mentally for some years, since the Brendan Rodgers downfall really, there aren't any real inspiring leaders within. No one who will take the bull by the horns and drag the rest of them through.

 

The manager - to not know his playing style, what he wants out of the side, his philosphy, his impact, his clear lack of consistently being able to motivate the squad is a huge worry. For what it's worth I think the issues highlighted amongst the squad it would be difficult for anyone to get a consistent tune out of what we have. He needs to show more courage to completely banish the bad apples, and protect the young lads coming in. He needs to publicly state his intentions, publicly out wantaway bad attitude players. How refreshing would it be if he came out and said: "Winks, Faes and Soumare have no future at this club and will not be picked whilst I am the manager! That being said the young lads filling their spots will make mistakes but their effort and development is what we are trying to encourage." But he won't, if you keep going back to a poisoned well and expecting fresh water, eventually it will cost you. He will pay with his job for not showing the courage to do what every fan can see, if he called it out at least the fans would respect him, he is towing the company line and he will probably be disposed of anyway. He might aswell go down swinging.

On the pitch the least he should be doing is ensuring we are defensively sound and physically fit, I don't see either! 

 

How do we go forward from here.... apart from a Nigel Pearson/Martin O'Neill type character we will struggle to stay in this division this season with the impending points deduction, despite spending fortunes on wages and transfer fees over the last few years. We have assembled a squad of feeble minded prima donnas. The abject decline of this football club under this ownership is quite frankly a disgrace and the legacy Vichai left has completely eroded now. The sooner King Power up and leave us the better. I fear with the sentimentality of the stadium they will only leave kicking and screaming after every last molecule of what was previously built has been destroyed.

[Rubbersoul]

I would just like us to be enjoyable to watch. I’m not even asking for promotion. Just that we look like there’s a plan. 

[foxinsocks]

2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am actually in another camp, whilst our recruitment has been woeful and this is the worst squad we have had in the KP era, it is still strong enough to be competing for at least the play offs as a minimum and there is absolutely no way we should be 4-0 down at half time to a side like QPR 

 

The squad needs a refresh and reset as the mentality is poor but a good manager would at least instil some tactical basics to ensure we are continually out of games by half time, it has happened in 3 of our last 7 games. 
 

This is a poor squad in comparison to the last 10-12 years but is still on paper head and shoulders above the likes of Hull, Preston, Millwall etc who are all ahead of us, therefore showing that their managers are more tactically astute and have the ability to get their groups to out perform which is something our manager has failed to achieve this season. 
 

Again this is not mutually exclusive, one or the other, my believe is this squad could and should be performing better than mid table in the championship, losing 7 games already and conceding 31 goals. We are virtually half way through the season and are yet to witness more than a couple, if any, real 90 minute performances, we are woefully inconsistent and incapable of stringing more than 2 or 3 positive results together. 
 

The squad could do with a refresh however I also have concerns as to the quality of the manager. He is appearing to be more of a championship version of Cooper and it’s not working. 

Agree.... but who will lead thus change.  We can see its not rudkin.  The new dof coukd do so ... butbi expect they will employ a yes man.

My hope is that top feels he is being made to look a fool and gets rid of rudkin and herilhy

[CarolinaFox]

On 22/12/2025 at 15:19, gurru991 said:

I have to disagree!!!

I don't think we have one of the best squads in the league. We don't have a centre forward ( striker )... our left back & right back are both struggling but for different reasons  .. our mid-field is decent & our wingers are are iffy .. Fatuwa can be good but Mavidi is poor. 

I think you're  misunderstanding what I'm saying. I agree, our players are massively underperforming. For me this is not due to the quality of our squad, its due to the failings of our manager. Our squad is a top level championship side when evaluated on pure player value, quality, footballing pedigree and talent. This is a squad that can do a lot better than midtable.  We have players who have played international football, champions league football, had success in the premier league and come from elite football academies and played with the games top coaches. In terms of value, quality, and talent I think we have a squad that should be in the top 5 if it had a manager who knew how to use that talent more effectively.