Cifuentes OUT

[Pita]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Tactically it was so so bad. Just space everywhere for QPR 

Shocking manager. Appointed by even worse DOF.  And with a playboy running the club. We are in so much trouble. 

[CarolinaFox]

Right now Marti is the canary in the coalmine for this club. If he stays on it shows the club's main priority is safety and a mid-table finish rather than a promotion push. Maybe this has been the club's intention all along. Cifuentes is clearly not a manager who will maximize what we have in terms of squad and financial resources. His football philosophy is good for managing a team in a relegation scrap. Not for a promotion push. I think we see this both in his managerial history and in his tactical approach (he does have one - at least on paper). Marti is a structure guy: he wants his teams to be stable, structured, control possession and warm into games. Even when his teams go up his approach is to protect the lead. His substitutions read very clearly: I am not pushing to win the game, I'm making changes to maintain stability, shape and status-quo. He isn't the type of manager bothered by a draw as long as the players maintained his principles and played with "identity." His long term goal is changing habits, building structure, and playing "not-to lose" football.  He doesn't play to necessarily win, but not to lose. This reads like great stuff from a manager brought in to stop the rot, put out the fire and get a relegation squad out of danger, but not if you want immediate promotion. 

 

If Marti stays it tells me that the club's hierarchy isn't bothered with finishing mid-table, and is focused on a longer term stay in the Championship to build and make a push in the next 2-3 seasons. I'm not saying this is what I want - but it might be what the ownership want and or are amenable to.  One final thought:  We often like to compare Marti and Enzo because they like to control possession. Yes, Marti and Enzo both like possession and structure, but the big difference is that Enzo pushed us to be aggressive early. Marti doesn't play that way. Marti is a longer term project manager, one that I believe will not get us promoted, but a safe pick if we are trying to land mid-table. His football philosophy still scares me, but I can see how the club's hierarchy may believe its better now to invest in a longer term project with Marti than hope for quick promotion with a "riskier" appointment. For my money I would go after someone who could maximize our strength of squad and resources and take the calculated risk. I'm sick of overly cautious Marti-ball. If we are only going to finish mid table  I'd rather play aggressive chaotic football than play the Marti way, but that's my opinion.

Edited 21 December 2025 by CarolinaFox

[Aus Fox]

Nothing changes, unless everything changes - No point sacking Marti and keeping the board in its current form… it will just be more of the same whoever is in charge.

[Trumpet]

13 hours ago, oundlefox said:

If any player comes out with the cliche ‘back to the drawing board’ for the 75th time this season I swear to God I will…….

They’ll be reflecting this week.

[lcfc sheff]

I don’t think they’ll be sacking him but I can’t see us getting in play offs unless we have an unexpected January 

[Fox92]

5 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Nothing changes, unless everything changes - No point sacking Marti and keeping the board in its current form… it will just be more of the same whoever is in charge.

I do not get this attitude. Lots of clubs have been successful despite being poorly run. A decent manager can mask a poorly run club. If a better manager was in charge we would be performing better, this squad isn’t great but is still better than it’s currently performing. The board are a big issue here but so is the manager. The manager is not good enough and should have gone months ago.

[mozartfox]

Any Manager (including Pep) would struggle getting a tune out of this fiddle if he inherited the bulk of the current squad and had Dufkin as DOF.

 

Blaming MC in isolation is prbably unfair to a degree.  MC did not create the chaos at the Club.

 

Major changes are required and removing MC only with no other structual changes will likely resolve absolutely nothing. 

[Lad1966]

6 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Nothing changes, unless everything changes - No point sacking Marti and keeping the board in its current form… it will just be more of the same whoever is in charge.

For me, it’s important to get a decent Technical Director in place, ASAP, so that they see 1st hand what’s needs to change, including the Manager, that’s when a proper reset can start. As I’ve said, we not going anywhere this season, so let get a TD in place for the remainder of the season and let them assess what changes need to be made, before the start of next preseason. The whole process could take a few season, but if I can see genuine progress, I could buy into that.

[lcfcfoz]

Needs to be sacked today or my christmas is over

[ceebeefox]

3 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Any Manager (including Pep) would struggle getting a tune out of this fiddle if he inherited the bulk of the current squad and had Dufkin as DOF.

 

Blaming MC in isolation is prbably unfair to a degree.  MC did not create the chaos at the Club.

 

Major changes are required and removing MC only with no other structual changes will likely resolve absolutely nothing. 

We keep using the term manager, when all we appoint since maybe Claudio are coaches. The club needs a manager now like Pearson and O’Neill who oversaw more than just the football, they ran the club and sidelined the likes of Rudkin. Mowbray is the nearest to that imo , if of course we can’t tempt the other two.

Rudkin and Top won’t admit it, but they need someone of that ilk to grab the whole club by the scruff of the neck and get back to basics.

[Happy Fox]

8 minutes ago, Lad1966 said:

For me, it’s important to get a decent Technical Director in place, ASAP, so that they see 1st hand what’s needs to change, including the Manager, that’s when a proper reset can start. As I’ve said, we not going anywhere this season, so let get a TD in place for the remainder of the season and let them assess what changes need to be made, before the start of next preseason. The whole process could take a few season, but if I can see genuine progress, I could buy into that.

This isn’t happening who in their right mind of decent quality would join us under Aiyawatt’s pitiful set up.

[coolhandfox]

14 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Any Manager (including Pep) would struggle getting a tune out of this fiddle if he inherited the bulk of the current squad and had Dufkin as DOF.

 

Blaming MC in isolation is prbably unfair to a degree.  MC did not create the chaos at the Club.

 

Major changes are required and removing MC only with no other structual changes will likely resolve absolutely nothing. 

People underestimate the impact of a good coach and leader.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 21 December 2025 by coolhandfox

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I do not get this attitude. Lots of clubs have been successful despite being poorly run. A decent manager can mask a poorly run club. If a better manager was in charge we would be performing better, this squad isn’t great but is still better than it’s currently performing. The board are a big issue here but so is the manager. The manager is not good enough and should have gone months ago.

Yeah I thought the same tbf. The board and how the club run is a disgrace frankly but that doesn't mean on the pitch has to absolutely replicate. 

 

Sheff Wed under Rohl the perfect example. Absolutely scandalous how we didn't get him in btw. 

 

But a good manager can do some much more with the squad we have than MC is doing. We aren't full of amazing players I get that, but we have more than enough to be at least keeping a clean sheet in over three months. 

[teblin]

12 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Any Manager (including Pep) would struggle getting a tune out of this fiddle if he inherited the bulk of the current squad and had Dufkin as DOF.

 

Blaming MC in isolation is prbably unfair to a degree.  MC did not create the chaos at the Club.

 

Major changes are required and removing MC only with no other structual changes will likely resolve absolutely nothing. 

I agree with this, but a strong manager would have the power to make structural changes. Like Enzo was doing.

 

Ruud wanted too but wasn’t good enough on the pitch, marti has the sentiment but also not good enough on the pitch.

 

A good strong manager can help make progress internally and on the pitch. Which is essential I think if you want top out, as it could be either promotion or administration to get change.

[davieG]

11 minutes ago, Lad1966 said:

For me, it’s important to get a decent Technical Director in place, ASAP, so that they see 1st hand what’s needs to change, including the Manager, that’s when a proper reset can start. As I’ve said, we not going anywhere this season, so let get a TD in place for the remainder of the season and let them assess what changes need to be made, before the start of next preseason. The whole process could take a few season, but if I can see genuine progress, I could buy into that.

There's simply no point in changing anything to do with the players, coaches, manager or TD because Top and Rudkin aren't capable of putting the right people in they'll just be sycophants. New owners or a new board /chairman needs to be the the first priority otherwise we'll continue to throw money we haven't got on a bonfire of LCFC

[davieG]

They're not going to employ a stronger manager they'll be a yes man coming here for the the money.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

On 11/12/2025 at 09:14, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Reasons why he won't be sacked.

 

Modern King Power consistently take too long to sack managers, and nothing has changed so this will continue. 

We have an absentee owner that is off playing Polo on the other side of the world. Probably hasn't even check our last results. 

We have an interim MD who has no experience in football.

The search for the new full time MD will be the priorty, we can't work on more than one player singing at a time, how does anyone expect the board to be working on appoitning a new DoF and a new manager at the same time? Not a chance. 

We're skint and can't afford to pay him off. 

Regardless of what the fans think, they'll look at the fact we're three points off the playoffs and think to themselves that it could change quickly (it won't). 

 

So keep screeching but he's staying. 

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[Happy Fox]

The only way we get new ownership is if the club get promoted or relegated..

 

We need to sack Marti he has got to go!

 

[teblin]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

They're not going to employ a stronger manager they'll be a yes man coming here for the the money.

They have got it right by accident once. But I think that’s the worry but you can’t keep someone for that reason. It’s just a crap situation.

[FrankieADZ]

hes still not gone

 

 

[Long Eaton Fox]

I think everyone on here agreed that he picked the best team, one that had been improving. When that team contains players capable of making big mistakes this is what happens. Unfortunately with no cash to improve the team this is the pattern for the future. It will be slow progress. Get used to it.

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I do not get this attitude. Lots of clubs have been successful despite being poorly run. A decent manager can mask a poorly run club. If a better manager was in charge we would be performing better, this squad isn’t great but is still better than it’s currently performing. The board are a big issue here but so is the manager. The manager is not good enough and should have gone months ago.

 

This is actually more true of us than a lot of other clubs because we are SO reliant on a manager to make positive change off the pitch. 

 

But frankly, the performances are just shocking even for the squad we have. You can cry all you want about the team not being brilliant on paper but has anyone seen Hull's or Preston's or Millwall's? Not exactly a league full of world class teams. 

 

There's no an excuse to be shipping 4 to QPR, 3 to Sheff Utd, 3 to Southampton, absolutely crumbling in games like we're completely fragile. 

 

[Kegworthfox]

3 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

The only way we get new ownership is if the club get promoted or relegated..

 

We need to sack Marti he has got to go!

 

Sacked Rodger’s cooper rvn now you want marti sacked give your head a wobble because sack marti than the next manager 

the trouble is NOT the Manager It’s the PLAYERS till you get rid of some of these players and Rutkin it will not change

[Nolucklcfc]

22 minutes ago, lcfcfoz said:

Needs to be sacked today or my christmas is over

Our pathetic owner is on the other side of the world playing polo and being awarded medals, so wouldn’t hold ya breath! 

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I do not get this attitude. Lots of clubs have been successful despite being poorly run. A decent manager can mask a poorly run club. If a better manager was in charge we would be performing better, this squad isn’t great but is still better than it’s currently performing. The board are a big issue here but so is the manager. The manager is not good enough and should have gone months ago.

Why are they not going for higher profile or decent managers?

 

You shouldn't keep somebody ill suited just because it could get worse (somehow) but he is here for a reason. Cost? Philosophy? Availability?

 

What is going to change in the process for the next appointment?