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[GorlestonFox]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Absolutely.

 

Though, when such an incident happens, some can be quite reluctant/unsure how to perform it.

Bad CPR is better than no CPR! 

 

Never be afraid to try ♥️

[Wymsey]

1 minute ago, GorlestonFox said:

Bad CPR is better than no CPR! 

 

Never be afraid to try ♥️

@Parafox, is that true?

[jammie82uk]

4 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Credit to the stewards and medical team it looked like they got to the fan fast.

 

Pleased to hear he is stable.

Totally agree, obviously you would rather not in the first place but if you are going to have a medical emergency a place like a football stadium is not the worse place to have it as they have the ambulance staff & equipment already there 

[Lionator]

4 hours ago, Wymsey said:

@Parafox, is that true?

Well if you don’t do it, they’ll die regardless. So you might as well try. 

[daddylonglegs]

9 hours ago, Machinesoul1 said:

I just wanted to give you an update on my mate who was taken ill last night. He’s sedated and having lots of tests done but he’s stable.

Fantastic news. 

[Parafox]

6 hours ago, GorlestonFox said:

Bad CPR is better than no CPR! 

 

Never be afraid to try ♥️

 

6 hours ago, Wymsey said:

@Parafox, is that true?

 

Once CPR, effective or not, is started it must be continued by the emergency responders until it can be confirmed that life is extinct.

 

Ineffective CPR will often fail to resuscitate as the heart won't be compressed sufficiently to fully empty the ventricles and not enough blood will be circulated to the brain. However trying CPR is always better than doing nothing. The outcome also depends on how long poor CPR has being going on before professional intervention happens.

 

A minimum of 2 inches compression of the chest with the patient lying flat on a hard surface is what is most effective.

 

Also, no mouth to mouth anymore as full compression of the chest creates a rebound effect where some oxygenated air is drawn into the lungs due to atmospheric pressure as the chest expands.

 

Breathing in is an active process using muscles to expand the chest and air is drawn into the lungs.

 

Breathing out is an inactive process as muscles relax and atmospheric pressure causes the chest to deflate "naturally".

 

Edited 5 November 2025 by Parafox

[VG Fox]

7 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

 

Ineffective CPR is pretty useless as the heart won't get compressed sufficiently to fully empty the ventricles and not enough blood will be circulated to the brain.

 

A minimum of 2 inches compression of the chest with the patient lying flat on a hard surface is what is most effective.

 

Also, no mouth to mouth anymore as full compression of the chest creates a rebound effect where some oxygenated air is drawn into the lungs due to atmospheric pressure as the chest expands.

 

Breathing in is an active process using muscles to expand the chest and air is drawn into the lungs.

 

Breathing out is an inactive process as muscles relax and atmospheric pressure causes the chest to deflate "naturally".

 

Trying CPR is probably better for the bystanders, but you never know.

 

Once CPR, effective or not, is started it must be continued by the emergency responders until it can be confirmed that life is extinct.

Excellent advice, I would add the rate of chest compressions should be over 100 per minute, minimum, the teaching used to be imagine the beat of staying alive by the bee gees, it also worth noting that proper chest compressions are pretty tiring so if there is more than one person able to do CPR rotate every 5 mins or so, but be ready to take over immediately the other person stops, any delay is bad

 

 

[Parafox]

6 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

Totally agree, obviously you would rather not in the first place but if you are going to have a medical emergency a place like a football stadium is not the worse place to have it as they have the ambulance staff & equipment already there 

 

Absolutely. There are 2 teams of ambulance staff at games above league 1.

 

One for the crowd and one for the players. Plus the clubs own medics.

 

When very own Birch had a cardiac arrest a while back, he was in the best place other than being in an actual hospital. 

 

I dealt with a cardiac arrest on 2 occasions when I was pitch-side para. Both patients made it because our "call to arrival on scene" time was under a minute.

[steve555]

6 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

Totally agree, obviously you would rather not in the first place but if you are going to have a medical emergency a place like a football stadium is not the worse place to have it as they have the ambulance staff & equipment already there 

Indeed, my dad's life was saved by the response of the medical staff at the KP in December 2019. He was brought round with a defibrillator after his heart stopped just as the game was ending. The paramedics were just a few feet away & doctors later said if that had happened somewhere else, his chances of surviving would have been slim. He now has a mini defib fitted & is still going strong.

[Parafox]

5 minutes ago, VG Fox said:

Excellent advice, I would add the rate of chest compressions should be over 100 per minute, minimum, the teaching used to be imagine the beat of staying alive by the bee gees, it also worth noting that proper chest compressions are pretty tiring so if there is more than one person able to do CPR rotate every 5 mins or so, but be ready to take over immediately the other person stops, any delay is bad

 

 

 

When ambulance staff get called to a cardiac arrest, dispatchers always send a responder and 2 crews (5 people in total) as well as a senior paramedic who takes over the management of the resuscitation. Their only role is to keep time and inform the team when compressions need to stop for an assessment and when to give the next drug. 

 

The teams doing resus change around regularly (5 cycles of CPR usually, which is when a re-assessment is made) so they don't get exhausted.

[StanSP]

28 minutes ago, Parafox said:

A minimum of 2 inches compression of the chest with the patient lying flat on a hard surface is what is most effective

Is it true ribs are generally broken during this process? 

[Parafox]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Is it true ribs are generally broken during this process? 

Depending on the age, yes.

 

Older people often have brittle bones and the crunch and feel of the sternum detaching from the ribs is unmistakeable.

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Parafox said:

 

 

Once CPR, effective or not, is started it must be continued by the emergency responders until it can be confirmed that life is extinct.

 

Ineffective CPR will often fail to resuscitate as the heart won't be compressed sufficiently to fully empty the ventricles and not enough blood will be circulated to the brain. However trying CPR is always better than doing nothing. The outcome also depends on how long poor CPR has being going on before professional intervention happens.

 

A minimum of 2 inches compression of the chest with the patient lying flat on a hard surface is what is most effective.

 

Also, no mouth to mouth anymore as full compression of the chest creates a rebound effect where some oxygenated air is drawn into the lungs due to atmospheric pressure as the chest expands.

 

Breathing in is an active process using muscles to expand the chest and air is drawn into the lungs.

 

Breathing out is an inactive process as muscles relax and atmospheric pressure causes the chest to deflate "naturally".

 

Well this is the best, most worthwhile post of the year 

[Leicesterpool]

Hope the poor guy makes quick recover, least he's in the safe place getting the treatment he needs. The way we are playing this season, it's probably more exciting in hospital than it is watching the foxes the season!

 

Still can't get my head round why the game wasn't stopped.

 

Edited 5 November 2025 by Leicesterpool

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Parafox said:

 

When ambulance staff get called to a cardiac arrest, dispatchers always send a responder and 2 crews (5 people in total) as well as a senior paramedic who takes over the management of the resuscitation. Their only role is to keep time and inform the team when compressions need to stop for an assessment and when to give the next drug. 

 

The teams doing resus change around regularly (5 cycles of CPR usually, which is when a re-assessment is made) so they don't get exhausted.

I should add the caveat "attempt" and "next available crew"

 

As a solo responder, I've often been the first on scene and backup hasn't been immediately despatched as there were no crews available due to being stuck on scene with a lengthy job, or stuck outside A&E waiting to handover. Usually the latter.

[Parafox]

18 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Hope the poor guy makes quick recover, least he's in the safe place getting the treatment he needs. The way we are playing this season, it's probably more exciting in hospital than it is watching the foxes the season!

 

Still can't get my head round why the game wasn't stopped.

 

IME it depends on where the patient is seated. Close to the pitch, game stopped, or up in the stands out of view of the majority of the stadium and players, carry on.

 

 

Edited 5 November 2025 by Parafox

[Pontus83]

Argh it was so hard to watch. The medical responders were amazing! Puts football into perspective. Whilst it was going on, which felt like an eternity, every fan I saw wasn’t concerned about the football but about life. Honest to god I really don’t know how the poor guy survived after they were pumping his heart for so long … foxes never quit 💪🏻

[Tommy G]

How old was the guy?

[VLC86]

I think this might have been someone who sits with a relative. Obviously don’t really want to say too much on here but it does sound like he is doing better than he was.

[Machinesoul1]

4 hours ago, VLC86 said:

I think this might have been someone who sits with a relative. Obviously don’t really want to say too much on here but it does sound like he is doing better than he was.

I don’t want to go into too much detail to keep his anonymity but my mate is progressing better than the consultant expected. He’ll been in hospital for awhile so more tests can be done.

[Lionator]

Update from the club that he’s sitting up and talking in hospital. A great job by all those who helped.