Each to their own.... Leicester City belongs to all of us

[Leeds Fox]

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

Edited 15 February by Leeds Fox

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

You can remember all that fondly whilst still expecting basic standards from the club though. Standards that include not being the laughing stock of football for our decline on the pitch and failings off it, resulting in a points deduction which is a stain on the reputation of the club and it’s name. 
 

Remembering the good stuff that has happened and holding the club accountable are not mutually exclusive.

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

1 hour ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

Yeah, I remember all that.

I also remember winning the League Cup twice.

I remember four play off finals in five years.

I remember Matt Elliott. Steve Walsh. Tommy Wright. Gary Mills. McAllister & Mauchlen. Paul Ramsey. Smith Lineker Lynex. Worthington Weller and Wallington.

And so many other players, managers and moments, good and bad. The 1991 great escape. Peter Taylor. Frank McLintock. Junior Lewis. Lee Philpott. Jon Sammels. Tim Flowers. Dennis f*#$ing Wise. Joey from his own half. The Southampton swimming pool game. Alan Woollett. Paul Reid. Harvey Barnes. Tony Spearing. Manley, Farrington and Brown. I remember Filbert Street.

 

My dad remembers Arthur Rowley and Howard Riley. My kids remember Steve Howard and David Nugent, as well as 2016 and Jamie Vardy.

 

I'd like my kids to have more things to remember. I'd like their kids to have things to remember, and their kids after them.

 

The whole last 142 years have given generations of us things we'll never forget; it isn't just 'this past 10 years.'

 

I'd like there to be another 142 years, thanks, and much as I've enjoyed winning the league and the cup and stuff, it doesn't mean I should tolerate the people who happened to own the club when that happened taking the club into oblivion.

[LCFCJohn]

42 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said:

Yeah, I remember all that.

I also remember winning the League Cup twice.

I remember four play off finals in five years.

I remember Matt Elliott. Steve Walsh. Tommy Wright. Gary Mills. McAllister & Mauchlen. Paul Ramsey. Smith Lineker Lynex. Worthington Weller and Wallington.

And so many other players, managers and moments, good and bad. The 1991 great escape. Peter Taylor. Frank McLintock. Junior Lewis. Lee Philpott. Jon Sammels. Tim Flowers. Dennis f*#$ing Wise. Joey from his own half. The Southampton swimming pool game. Alan Woollett. Paul Reid. Harvey Barnes. Tony Spearing. Manley, Farrington and Brown. I remember Filbert Street.

 

My dad remembers Arthur Rowley and Howard Riley. My kids remember Steve Howard and David Nugent, as well as 2016 and Jamie Vardy.

 

I'd like my kids to have more things to remember. I'd like their kids to have things to remember, and their kids after them.

 

The whole last 142 years have given generations of us things we'll never forget; it isn't just 'this past 10 years.'

 

I'd like there to be another 142 years, thanks, and much as I've enjoyed winning the league and the cup and stuff, it doesn't mean I should tolerate the people who happened to own the club when that happened taking the club into oblivion.

Excellent post. I have been making a similar point regarding our history and how this is a club supported by generations.

 

Shows it is also nothing to do with age nor how long people have supported the club as to which side of the debate you come down on. It is purely and simply standards and how much you care about the future of the club. 
 

LCFC not KPFC!

[LCFCCKEANO]

If we can survive as a club this will not be a quick thing, don’t see a sale of the club and recovery for another 3/4 years minimum. We are right in the middle of our version of what happened to Brum/Cov/Blackburn unfortunately 

[BrilliantFox]

Now its 6 pages of people explaining how being up 3-0 with 30 mins left and then losing 4-3 keeps them "sane".

Can't really get more contradictory than that.

 

If you want change, stop funding and enabling the current regime.

Go to the gym or take a walk in the park or spend time with family instead. 

 

Those 3 activities are much better for your sanity and health than sitting on a dirty plastic seat with your legs crammed for 90 minutes.

[bovril]

2 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

What happened against Cardiff at home? 

[ceebeefox]

2 minutes ago, bovril said:

What happened against Cardiff at home? 

Think he means away, after Vichai.

[bovril]

5 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

Think he means away, after Vichai.

Ah right. Thought for a minute he meant Matty Fryatt's first goal in 2006. 

[HP1]

5 minutes ago, bovril said:

Ah right. Thought for a minute he meant Matty Fryatt's first goal in 2006. 

What a special day

[foxfanazer]

3 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

That's like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work amongst the noncing 

[bovril]

1 hour ago, HP1 said:

What a special day

Legendary day. Just to score 1 goal against the mighty Cardiff when we were little Leicester City with no history

[OnlyOneCity]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

That's like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work amongst the noncing 

Not at all the same. Saville was an abuser of trust and vulnerability . His charity work facilitated that end. The City memories were special to many of us and I think your flippant response was in very poor taste.

[bovril]

4 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

And a few years before tiatto and williams we were winning cups and finishing top 10 in the premier league

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

That's like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work amongst the noncing 

A million miles distant mate and a pretty grotesque comparison. 

[foxfanazer]

8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

A million miles distant mate and a pretty grotesque comparison. 

Meh, depends how seriously you take it. 

 

If you think it was a genuine comparison then I'm not sure what to tell you

[LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall]

4 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

As much as we ‘don’t care’

 

Remember 15/16

 

Remember Cardiff at home

 

Remember Wembley and Youri (and Kasper)

Remember Vardy at St James and Man Utd (H)

 

Remember Covid (shite but we were stupidly good before)

 

Remember the white scarves

 

Remember Bocelli. ANDREA BOCELLI

 

Rememver Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Albrighton, Simpson

 

I don’t care anymore, but this past 10 years have given me memories I cannot forget.

 

Top needs to go, but his ambition (who knows what that was), was not to put us where we are now. 
 

Remember the good times… because a few years before we had a midfield of Tiatto and Williams 

Selective memory. Does your mind expand far enough to remember the SLT of Lcfc failing with our financial management for multiple seasons which have made us dispised across the nation and our points duductions that could contribute to us ceasing to exist in 2-3 seasons. 

[Dahnsouff]

23 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Meh, depends how seriously you take it. 

 

If you think it was a genuine comparison then I'm not sure what to tell you

Mate. You posted it. If you cannot see that was wrong whatever the intent, there is nothing left to say.

[foxfanazer]

10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Mate. You posted it. If you cannot see that was wrong whatever the intent, there is nothing left to say.

Fair enough. Didn't mean to cause offence, my apologies 

[mazarron fox]

2 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

That's like saying Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work amongst the noncing 

You have had a shocker there mate 

[Pliskin]

I really, really hate the argument of past successes “they’ve given us the best ten years” rubbish. 
 

Things such as poor mindset, and it’s one of the reasons we’re in desperate danger of going bust…..

 

Other clubs have fort for the future of their clubs when they’ve been on the brink of disaster, and yet still have fans that will sit in denial and blindly support the club as it drowns. 
 

What happens when we’re gone? What happens when we go down, and end up folding? What will those who support Top and KingPower day then? I’m intrigued to know……

 

Sitting inside the stadium? In silence, is not support, being blindly optimistic in the face of disaster isn’t support either. 
 

Fighting for something you’re passionate about is support, calling out inadequate running of your team is support, not wanting your club to dissolve int one existence because of one man’s incompetence and his band of idiots. 
 

The bottom line is Top and his board room have driven this club into the ground, and there’s a very real possibility that this ends us. Is this what people want? 

 

Or will they sit there and said “we used to have a football club once”……. 

[foxfanazer]

I feel over the years of supporting this club on the whole we've all shared the pain and jubilation that Leicester city brings. There's been some incredible highs and truly shattering lows and I feel the majority of fans felt United in those feelings. 

 

Now I don't think the same can be said. There seems to be such a huge chasm from the pessimists/realists and the blindly happy clapping lemmings. I don't know if the league and Fa cup win has created some kind of weird inferiority complex for some and any bad word spoken about the King Power overlords is seen as shitting on the memories of past successes. 

 

We cannot let our club die out of blind faith and misplaced gratitude 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I really, really hate the argument of past successes “they’ve given us the best ten years” rubbish. 
Things such as poor mindset, and it’s one of the reasons we’re in desperate danger of going bust…..

Other clubs have fort for the future of their clubs when they’ve been on the brink of disaster, and yet still have fans that will sit in denial and blindly support the club as it drowns. 
What happens when we’re gone? What happens when we go down, and end up folding? What will those who support Top and KingPower day then? I’m intrigued to know……

Sitting inside the stadium? In silence, is not support, being blindly optimistic in the face of disaster isn’t support either. 
Fighting for something you’re passionate about is support, calling out inadequate running of your team is support, not wanting your club to dissolve int one existence because of one man’s incompetence and his band of idiots. 
The bottom line is Top and his board room have driven this club into the ground, and there’s a very real possibility that this ends us. Is this what people want? 

Or will they sit there and said “we used to have a football club once”……. 

I agree with most of the points you make, but on one thing, you need to wind in the hyperbolic over-reaction a bit.
 
This Football Club ... and by that I mean the professional football club of the City of Leicester ... isn't going to die.      Worst case scenario, if we got relegated to the National League and were liquidated, we're not going to disappear.
 
It's a city of 500,000.   We'd reform.   On Health & Safety and security grounds, they're not going to put a reformed Club in the Midland League Division One playing Birstall United and Kirby Muxloe.   It's just not going to happen, ok?
 
And they probably wouldn't sell and demolish the ground.  It wouldn't make financial sense to anyone ... creditors, HMRC, or whoever.    Although tbh it wouldn't bother me if they did.  I hate the place.  Lifeless boring blue-coloured Southampton copy bowl.    And even if they did demolish it, we'd ground-share at Tigers for a year or two whilst we built a new ground somewhere else.    Maybe a new ground with plenty of terracing (all seaters aren't needed until back up to the 2nd Division).    Hmm, I'm starting to like this ... 
 
I understand and fully share the concern that our Club is currently on a terrible downward spiral.   I want KP out, along with all the other useless hangers-on at the Club.
 
But we're not doing ourselves any favours, by peddling some apocalyptic narrative that our children aren't going to have a football club to support.   We might end up being sh*t like Cov for a few years.   But we'd be back.   And when we'd be back, I promise you we'd have a damn sight more passionate fanbase than we have at the moment.
 
<btw, some of the above is tongue-in-cheek.  Don't take it all too seriously.>
 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, worth_the_wait said:

I agree with most of the points you make, but on one thing, you need to wind in the hyperbolic over-reaction a bit.
 
This Football Club ... and by that I mean the professional football club of the City of Leicester ... isn't going to die.      Worst case scenario, if we got relegated to the National League and were liquidated, we're not going to disappear.
 
It's a city of 500,000.   We'd reform.   On Health & Safety and security grounds, they're not going to put a reformed Club in the Midland League Division One playing Birstall United and Kirby Muxloe.   It's just not going to happen, ok?
 
And they probably wouldn't sell and demolish the ground.  It wouldn't make financial sense to anyone ... creditors, HMRC, or whoever.    Although tbh it wouldn't bother me if they did.  I hate the place.  Lifeless boring blue-coloured Southampton copy bowl.    And even if they did demolish it, we'd ground-share at Tigers for a year or two whilst we built a new ground somewhere else.    Maybe a new ground with plenty of terracing (all seaters aren't needed until back up to the 2nd Division).    Hmm, I'm starting to like this ... 
 
I understand and fully share the concern that our Club is currently on a terrible downward spiral.   I want KP out, along with all the other useless hangers-on at the Club.
 
But we're not doing ourselves any favours, by peddling some apocalyptic narrative that our children aren't going to have a football club to support.   We might end up being sh*t like Cov for a few years.   But we'd be back.   And when we'd be back, I promise you we'd have a damn sight more passionate fanbase than we have at the moment.
 
<btw, some of the above is tongue-in-cheek.  Don't take it all too seriously.>
 

Thank god for that! I was starting to worry

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, worth_the_wait said:

I agree with most of the points you make, but on one thing, you need to wind in the hyperbolic over-reaction a bit.
 
This Football Club ... and by that I mean the professional football club of the City of Leicester ... isn't going to die.      Worst case scenario, if we got relegated to the National League and were liquidated, we're not going to disappear.
 
It's a city of 500,000.   We'd reform.   On Health & Safety and security grounds, they're not going to put a reformed Club in the Midland League Division One playing Birstall United and Kirby Muxloe.   It's just not going to happen, ok?
 
And they probably wouldn't sell and demolish the ground.  It wouldn't make financial sense to anyone ... creditors, HMRC, or whoever.    Although tbh it wouldn't bother me if they did.  I hate the place.  Lifeless boring blue-coloured Southampton copy bowl.    And even if they did demolish it, we'd ground-share at Tigers for a year or two whilst we built a new ground somewhere else.    Maybe a new ground with plenty of terracing (all seaters aren't needed until back up to the 2nd Division).    Hmm, I'm starting to like this ... 
 
I understand and fully share the concern that our Club is currently on a terrible downward spiral.   I want KP out, along with all the other useless hangers-on at the Club.
 
But we're not doing ourselves any favours, by peddling some apocalyptic narrative that our children aren't going to have a football club to support.   We might end up being sh*t like Cov for a few years.   But we'd be back.   And when we'd be back, I promise you we'd have a damn sight more passionate fanbase than we have at the moment.
 
<btw, some of the above is tongue-in-cheek.  Don't take it all too seriously.>
 

I know you said don’t take it seriously, but at the moment I can’t help myself and simply have to get on my soapbox at every opportunity….. I apologise in advance….

 

I completely understand the instinct to push back against apocalyptic talk. You’re right in one important sense: a city the size of Leicester does not just stop playing football. Clubs have reformed before, phoenix sides have risen, and civic identity tends to outlive bad ownership, bad boards, and even liquidation.

 

But I think where we differ is on the distinction between a football club in Leicester and Leicester City in its current form. That distinction really matters.

 

I agree that total extinction of football in Leicester is unlikely. What is entirely plausible, however, is the collapse of Leicester City in its current corporate, financial, and structural form — and that’s not melodrama. It’s arithmetic.

 

Ill try and breakdown why I feel like I do, and why I’m OTT about it….

 

1. The Financial Reality: This Isn’t 2002 Anymore

 

Leicester’s current cost base was built for Premier League revenues.

 

Over recent seasons the club has:

• Carried one of the highest wage bills outside the traditional “Big Six”

• Posted significant operating losses

• Relied heavily on Premier League broadcasting income

• Seen a sharp decline in transfer profit compared to the 2016–2021 cycle

• Been exposed to tightening PSR rules. 

 

When you build a club around £100m+ broadcasting income, you cannot simply “adjust” to League One levels of revenue without structural trauma.

 

 

2. Why League One Would Be Catastrophic — Not Just Painful

 

Championship relegation is one thing. League One is another universe.

 

Broadcasting Revenue Drop

• Premier League: £100m+

• Championship (with parachute): manageable for a short window

• Championship (without parachute): tight

• League One: low single-digit millions

 

That’s not a reduction. That’s a cliff edge.

 

Parachute payments only cushion one fall. If they’re exhausted before stability is restored, the club becomes structurally over-leveraged overnight.

 

3. Wage Commitments vs. Revenue Reality

 

Even with relegation clauses, contracts don’t magically disappear. You still face:

• Multi-year deals signed at Premier League levels

• Amortised transfer fees still sitting on the books

• Infrastructure and staffing costs tied to top-flight operations

 

If revenue collapses faster than costs can be stripped out, the club is forced into:

• Distressed asset sales

• Points deductions

• Emergency borrowing

• Or administration

 

At that stage, liquidation stops being hysterical rhetoric and becomes one of several possible outcomes.

 

Not inevitable — but absolutely within the realm of football precedent.

 

 

4. Precedent Matters

 

Big cities have lost clubs before. Reforming is possible — but reforming means:

• New company

• New league placement (often far below expectations)

• Loss of honours history

• Loss of assets

• Years, sometimes decades, of rebuilding

 

Yes, Leicester would reform. But it would not be this Leicester City. It would be a successor club, starting from scratch in practical terms.

 

That’s the part people are reacting to emotionally.

 

5. The Stadium Argument

 

You’re right that demolition is unlikely if it’s financially irrational. But that depends on ownership structure and creditor hierarchy.

 

If secured lenders need asset recovery, football sentiment doesn’t enter the equation.

 

Ground-sharing at Tigers sounds romantic — and yes, in theory, viable — but that presumes:

• No legal disputes over stadium ownership

• No administration complications

• No buyer disputes

• No insolvency litigation

 

Once insolvency lawyers enter the room, civic common sense tends to leave it.

 

6. The Spiral Risk

 

The real danger isn’t a single relegation. It’s the compound effect:

1. Relegation

2. Revenue collapse

3. Fire-sale of talent

4. Competitive decline

5. Further relegation

6. PSR sanctions

7. Creditor pressure

 

That’s how clubs slide from “too big to fail” to “how did this happen?”

 

And Leicester’s recent financial trajectory — heavy losses, reliance on top-tier income, limited liquidity flexibility — means the margin for error is thin.

 

7. Where I Agree With You

 

I agree we shouldn’t infantilise the fanbase with “your children won’t have a club” hysteria.

 

Leicester the city would absolutely rally behind a phoenix club.

 

But dismissing collapse as impossible because of population size or civic pride underestimates how ruthless football finance can be.

 

This isn’t about melodrama. It’s about leverage ratios.

 

8. The Hard Truth

 

There is a difference between:

• “We’d be back.”

• And “We’d survive intact.”

 

One is cultural certainty.

The other is financially contingent.

 

Relegation to League One, given the current financial structure, could trigger:

• Insolvency

• Administration

• Points deductions

• Forced sale of the stadium

• Or, in a worst-case chain reaction, liquidation

 

Not because Leicester isn’t a big club.

But because modern football is a leveraged industry.

 

9. The Real Frustration

 

The anger at ownership and leadership isn’t hyperbole. It’s born from watching risk accumulate.

 

When fans talk apocalyptically, it’s often because they can see:

• The wage bill

• The loss trajectory

• The lack of strategic reset

 

And they know how quickly football moves once gravity takes hold.

 

You’re absolutely right that Leicester wouldn’t disappear from the map.

 

But it is not hyperbolic to say that this version of Leicester City could absolutely collapse if mismanagement meets relegation at the wrong moment.

 

And that’s not hysteria.

 

That’s modern football economics.

 

Right, I think I’ve said everything I’ve ever known, so I’m going to sit in a dark room for a few weeks…..

Edited 15 February by Pliskin