Each to their own.... Leicester City belongs to all of us

[The whole world smiles]

Even if you accept that everton and west Ham fans have higher standards than us and are more hostile to there owners than us which having been to goodison, Upton park and the Olympic Stadium a lot over the years I would say is complete bollocks but for arguments sake let's say it's true. the fact that both these fanbases have been stuck with owners they hate for a combinded 32 years with everton only seeing there's off in death surely proves my point over yours that all this so called fan action even when done to a standard you like is completely futile? 

[bovril]

5 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

The point is, those fanbases, West Ham and Everton, have high standards. Our fanbase has a small club mentality with no desire to do better.

For a big club West Ham are consistently garbage and the fans have been forced to accept an awful stadium not even in their home manor. 

[LCFCJohn]

44 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

What when Kenwright died? How the hell can you attribute someone dying of liver cancer to a more hostile fanbase? 

Come on, at least research or look at the facts before commenting. Farhad Moshiri came between Kenwright and the current owner and that is who the fans hostility was mainly against, as well as Kenwright.  

[LCFCJohn]

5 minutes ago, bovril said:

For a big club West Ham are consistently garbage and the fans have been forced to accept an awful stadium not even in their home manor. 

At least their fans are on the same page and make it known they are unhappy. Could you see our fans surrounding the directors box or whatever else? 

[bovril]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

At least their fans are on the same page and make it known they are unhappy. Could you see our fans surrounding the directors box or whatever else? 

Hasn't made much difference.

 

I'm not saying by the way that protesting can't make a difference. But just that the decline of a football club cannot really be attributed so much to the passivity of the fans. 

[LCFCJohn]

3 minutes ago, bovril said:

Hasn't made much difference.

 

I'm not saying by the way that protesting can't make a difference. But just that the decline of a football club cannot really be attributed so much to the passivity of the fans. 

Maybe, maybe not. But my point was that our fans have a small club mentality and a lack of standards. Not sure how that can be argued to be fair.

[bovril]

1 minute ago, LCFCJohn said:

Maybe, maybe not. But my point was that our fans have a small club mentality and a lack of standards. Not sure how that can be argued to be fair.

Can't really be proved either. Because "Leicester fans have a small club mentality unlike West Ham fans" is based on vibes and there's not much evidence that a) that's true or b) it helps West Ham. 

[The whole world smiles]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Come on, at least research or look at the facts before commenting. Farhad Moshiri came between Kenwright and the current owner and that is who the fans hostility was mainly against, as well as Kenwright.  

Why don't YOU do your research or look at the facts before posting! 

 

Moshiri and Kenwright were joint owners working together for 7 years. Kenwright was chairman when he died in 2023.

 

But whatever... I am not here to argue the intricacies of Everton's ownership model my point was that it's total bull that somehow west Ham or everton fans are less passive and would have stormed the king power andpublicly flogged the ownership just doesn't add up. 

[bovril]

Can tell the game is entertaining

[LCFCJohn]

Just now, The whole world smiles said:

Why don't YOU do your research or look at the facts before posting! 

 

Moshiri and Kenwright were joint owners working together for 7 years. Kenwright was chairman when he died in 2023.

 

But whatever... I am not here to argue the intricacies of Everton's ownership model my point was that it's total bull that somehow west Ham or everton fans are less passive and would have stormed the king power andpublicly flogged the ownership just doesn't add up. 

Yeah and Moshiri was still there between Kenwright and the current owner despite the fact they were co-owners for a time. And Moshiri was the main source of the fans anger even though Kenwright was also not without their frustrations. 
 

But you believe what you want to believe. Our fans are literally the most passive going. Most idolise an absent owner who doesn’t give a damn about them or the club and the only passion they show is to fight their own fans who have a different point of view to them.

By the way, see below, I.e Moshiri the majority shareholder, so owner from 2018. 

• September 2018: Moshiri increased his share to ~68.6%, buying shares from directors including part of Kenwright’s holding.

• June 2019: He expanded this to ~77.2% by acquiring further shares.

• 2021–2022: Through share issues and converting loans into equity, Moshiri progressively increased his stake to over 90% and eventually ~94.1% by early 2022, becoming the majority owner and main controlling shareholder while still keeping Kenwright as chairman.

[OnlyOneCity]

5 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Yeah and Moshiri was still there between Kenwright and the current owner despite the fact they were co-owners for a time. And Moshiri was the main source of the fans anger even though Kenwright was also not without their frustrations. 
 

But you believe what you want to believe. Our fans are literally the most passive going. Most idolise an absent owner who doesn’t give a damn about them or the club and the only passion they show is to fight their own fans who have a different point of view to them.

By the way, see below, I.e Moshiri the majority shareholder, so owner from 2018. 

• September 2018: Moshiri increased his share to ~68.6%, buying shares from directors including part of Kenwright’s holding.

• June 2019: He expanded this to ~77.2% by acquiring further shares.

• 2021–2022: Through share issues and converting loans into equity, Moshiri progressively increased his stake to over 90% and eventually ~94.1% by early 2022, becoming the majority owner and main controlling shareholder while still keeping Kenwright as chairman.

 

[OnlyOneCity]

West Ham have been at their owners throats for years without anything changing. Same as Spurs before Levy left when he decided he wanted to. These teams also have twice as many supporters in the ground as City so more noise, obviously. Owners will go when they choose to or when financially most beneficial for them. Mike Ashley was also abused for years, but again went when he chose to. The fans that support the team on match days are trying to do what they can, if anything, to help the team. For that, they get derisory abuse from many fans, who by their own admission, do not attend matches. They are called KPFC, which is meant to be insulting, but these supporters know why they attend games, it’s to support LCFC.Some of you may get your twisted wish of City getting relegated in the vain hope of the owner selling, but if that doesn’t happen then we are even worse of financially. But then you can just blame the match going fans like you always do.

[LCFCJohn]

2 minutes ago, OnlyOneCity said:

West Ham have been at their owners throats for years without anything changing. Same as Spurs before Levy left when he decided he wanted to. These teams also have twice as many supporters in the ground as City so more noise, obviously. Owners will go when they choose to or when financially most beneficial for them. Mike Ashley was also abused for years, but again went when he chose to. The fans that support the team on match days are trying to do what they can, if anything, to help the team. For that, they get derisory abuse from many fans, who by their own admission, do not attend matches. They are called KPFC, which is meant to be insulting, but these supporters know why they attend games, it’s to support LCFC.Some of you may get your twisted wish of City getting relegated in the vain hope of the owner selling, but if that doesn’t happen then we are even worse of financially. But then you can just blame the match going fans like you always do.

Presuming this was aimed at me given you blank quoted my last comment?

 

Of course owners will go when it suits them but does that mean that when your club is being ripped apart by incompetent management, fans should just stay quiet?

I have never actually suggested people shouldn’t attend the games. Possibly supporting a concerted effort to make a point I.e West Brom yes but not ongoing. My issues are;

 

- People genuinely condoning the running of the club.

- People attacking those who are voicing their concerns in the stands.

- People plastering pro-KP propaganda on social media to play down the issues at the club. Fortunately after the points deduction, the wider media is picking up on it more but it has been very unhelpful our own supporters trying to cover over the issues at the heart of our decline. 

 

None of these above points are supporting the team in the ground by the way. 

 

And get a grip suggesting people want to see us relegated. Those anger at the ownership are so because we care. So why would anyone who cares want to see us go down, knowing it will likely spiral into administration and put the clubs existence at risk? 

[OnlyOneCity]

16 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Presuming this was aimed at me given you blank quoted my last comment?

 

Of course owners will go when it suits them but does that mean that when your club is being ripped apart by incompetent management, fans should just stay quiet?

I have never actually suggested people shouldn’t attend the games. Possibly supporting a concerted effort to make a point I.e West Brom yes but not ongoing. My issues are;

 

- People genuinely condoning the running of the club.

- People attacking those who are voicing their concerns in the stands.

- People plastering pro-KP propaganda on social media to play down the issues at the club. Fortunately after the points deduction, the wider media is picking up on it more but it has been very unhelpful our own supporters trying to cover over the issues at the heart of our decline. 

 

None of these above points are supporting the team in the ground by the way. 

 

And get a grip suggesting people want to see us relegated. Those anger at the ownership are so because we care. So why would anyone who cares want to see us go down, knowing it will likely spiral into administration and put the clubs existence at risk? 

This wasn’t aimed at you, any blank quote was inadvertent. Fans haven’t stayed quiet regarding the mismanagement. Top needs to sell but Rudkin really needs to be got rid of. The bullet points raised are none that I subscribe to. I support the team as well as I can at games. I get angry and frustrated with events both on and off the pitch. Sadly there have been a number of posters licking their lips at any impending relegation, so they can blame the fans that go to games. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Langston]

5 hours ago, martyn said:

Even so, why does that matter, and why does it need pointing out? 

 

Because I don't want to read the points of a robot?? I'd rather read the opinions of someone, even if I disagree with them, that haven't been curated by AI..

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, OnlyOneCity said:

This wasn’t aimed at you, any blank quote was inadvertent. Fans haven’t stayed quiet regarding the mismanagement. Top needs to sell but Rudkin really needs to be got rid of. The bullet points raised are none that I subscribe to. I support the team as well as I can at games. I get angry and frustrated with events both on and off the pitch. Sadly there have been a number of posters licking their lips at any impending relegation, so they can blame the fans that go to games. 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough. I wondered based on the quote.

 

Essentially, I think the issue is, we are divided because too many do back the owner and it means the focus in not where it should be. 
 

I don’t think people want us to go down or are licking their lips though. I’d love to tell those who are guilty of the points I raised above but I am massively pissed off at Blackburn winning today so clearly don’t want us to go down!

[reynard]

21 hours ago, Reg Vardy said:

Great post, I used to say, I can’t worry about it too much, as the players don’t worry about me as they drive away in Bentleys. I find the assumption of many that the fans ticket money is so important to the club, in reality it’s relatively small beer, quite amusing…. If Harry Winks is on £90k per week that’s £4.5m per annum….at ( making it easy)£500 per season ticket that’s 9,000 season tickets for the whole season…..and we have a further 24 players to pay….factor in we only play at home every fortnight, meaning we get one week of income and two weeks of operational costs, it’s easy to see operating at a profit isn’t easy. I bet Jim Ratcliffe, has an opinion on ownership….
The clamour for King Power out, is only beneficial if a buyer is found who can fund the squad development we clearly need. As I see it that’s not going to be easy to find.Can’t see a quick fix, but the buzz I got when we went 3 up on Tuesday is what the club means to me, a happy clapping 68 year old,61 years a fan…..the club is bigger than anyone individual, player, supporter, and it’s simple, you are either in or your out, and it is your choice. If your in, get behind the club, if your out, stop moaning, and you only need to tell me you’ve stopped going the once….not every day….up the Foxes…

It isn't totally about money is it really? Currently our owners are completely incompetent in the running of the club resulting in a 6 point deduction for financial mismanagement. What we really need is an owner with the guts to sack incompetent people and to reconnect with the core supporters of the club and to at the very least employ people who are competent at their job or perhaps even employ them in the first place.  Not having someone as both Chairman and acting CEO would be a start. 

[TJB-fox]

Do people still have the same sentiment now we’re bottom 3, out the cup and look destined to rot in league one? 
 

Defund King Power, vote with your feet. 

[Pliskin]

We’ve all cancelled out direct debits. 4 of us. I call on others to follow…… first time in 29 years I’ve not got a season ticket…..

[martyn]

2 hours ago, Langston said:

 

Because I don't want to read the points of a robot?? I'd rather read the opinions of someone, even if I disagree with them, that haven't been curated by AI..

Pretty big difference between "points of a robot" and "curated by AI". 

 

[Langston]

26 minutes ago, martyn said:

Pretty big difference between "points of a robot" and "curated by AI". 

 

 

No there isn't..

[martyn]

9 minutes ago, Langston said:

 

No there isn't..

My last post on it so as not to derail, but AI organising a set of human opinions into a structure (what im taking as "curating") is different to asking the AI for its own "opinion".

 

Of course if the OP's prompt was "give me a pro LCFC puff piece" and nothing else then fair enough, but im making an assumption that wasnt the case.

 

 

[Reg Vardy]

3 hours ago, reynard said:

It isn't totally about money is it really? Currently our owners are completely incompetent in the running of the club resulting in a 6 point deduction for financial mismanagement. What we really need is an owner with the guts to sack incompetent people and to reconnect with the core supporters of the club and to at the very least employ people who are competent at their job or perhaps even employ them in the first place.  Not having someone as both Chairman and acting CEO would be a start. 

Sadly money obviously comes into it, nobody is going to plough more into an unattractive investment, particularly if you don't have it....not saying his man management is good, but its his company and he calls the shots.....as a matter of interest, who would be your ideal/realistic new owners.....as we need a sizeable operator, and they are few and far

[Aleksz]

Appreciate the posts about people going to the football to keep them sane and give them a release from the pressures of life even despite results, Appreciate the ones from others of it being a reason to spend time with loved ones… I really do get it and have been there myself.

 

But it’s as simple this, if action isn’t taken it’s increasingly likely you’re not going to have the option of going down to Filbert Way for those pleasures. Then what?

[Number 6]

Respecting your fellow fans is a good message, but it applies both ways. I've seen unnecessary name calling of people who have renewed season tickets and continued to go to games, but equally have seen abuse towards people who dare question King Power too.

 

I think this is an amalgamation of everything going on at the club at the moment. Fans are hurting and lashing out, sadly this is often misdirected.