Selling Seagrave

[Mike Oxlong]

Looking like a very costly vanity project now 

[Sly]

If we keep dropping like a stone, we could turn it into the home ground. 

[funkyrobot]

I don’t understand the logic. Sell off a world class facility because we have terrible owners who have bought a number of very poor footballers with a poor mentality and other than Maresca, hire awful managers. It’s not the facility that’s at fault it’s the lack of quality of the people using that facility.
 

No one should be shocked that these players are failing. Most have always been flawed and will be wherever we train. Despite the hype, there’s very little actually quality in this squad and almost no minerals. Only James and to an extent Fatawu from the senior pros are genuinely good enough and it’s debatable whether Fatawu can have the composure or football intelligence to make the most of those talents. Those who did get positive references from the their previous clubs (Ayew, Reid, Ramsey, Beggo) were talking about what they DID do not what they were doing any more. All are no longer able to contribute at this level. Many others came with terrible or underwhelming reviews from their previous teams (Vesty, Aribo, Winksy, Skipp.) We know Daka is a poor footballer with terrible technique and not built for the type of football we play in this country with little physicality. We know Hamza and Thomas are League 2 quality, we know Ricardo’s legs have gone, Mavididi has real issues because he no longer even looks like a pro footballer and we know that our resident u21’s are too young to be able to influence such senior squad rubbish. The more senior U21’s that might have offered more have been loaned out. 
 

With the correct owner, management team and squad, Seagrave is an asset.

[Stuntman_Mike]

Is this streaming on Netflix?

[damolcfc]

11 minutes ago, Sly said:

If we keep dropping like a stone, we could turn it into the home ground. 

Absolutely 🤣

[murphy]

9 hours ago, Lionator said:

Nobody is buying it. Marinakis is not an idiot. 

Forest will buy it for peanuts and paint it red.  The final humiliation 

[foxinsox]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Seagrave is just a building and some football pitches. It is not responsible for establishing the club’s culture and maintaining standards. That’s the job of the people who run the club, and they have comprehensively failed to do that. Blaming Seagrave is just as daft as blaming Belvoir Drive for the years of decline that led to the 2008 relegation to League One. We are where we are because we have a clueless chairman who has no idea how to run a football club. It’s got nothing to do with Seagrave.

 

Sure but Seagrave is a symptom of how management has gone wrong at our club.

 

Expensive, looks good on paper but fails to deliver. It is the Soumare of training grounds.

 

It certainly makes no sense to keep both Seagrave and Belvoir. It should all be concentrated on one site including the womens team and acadamy.

[Lionator]

9 minutes ago, murphy said:

Forest will buy it for peanuts and paint it red.  The final humiliation 

The up keep costs would make it implausible for them. 

[davieG]

Seagrave was just a vanity project logic never came into it. It was purely a KP  status project where as any stadium improvements would be just that not KP

[funkyrobot]

1 minute ago, foxinsox said:

Sure but Seagrave is a symptom of how management has gone wrong at our club.

 

Expensive, looks good on paper but fails to deliver. It is the Soumare of training grounds.

 

It certainly makes no sense to keep both Seagrave and Belvoir. It should all be concentrated on one site including the womens team and acadamy.

It’s only the women’s team at Belvoir. Get rid of that and concentrate everything at Seagrave. If they need to save money at Seagrave then mothball the 9 hole golf course! 

[sharpylcfc]

Can see the hotel sorry Seagrave being sold 100%

[funkyrobot]

15 minutes ago, sharpylcfc said:

Can see the hotel sorry Seagrave being sold 100%

Why not rid themselves of Belvoir drive instead?

[sharpylcfc]

1 minute ago, funkyrobot said:

Why not rid themselves of Belvoir drive instead?

Because whoever comes here will get treated like their on holiday not playing for a football club. Let them have the basics of Belvoir Drive instead. Not that on holiday with a swimming pool and a 9 hole golf course to go on.

[Wortho]

Why build a training facility that cost £100m. They could’ve built one for 10-15 million.

 

It costs the club £15m a year to run it and they don’t receive any revenue from it.

[oxtonfox]

One thing we can say is that we will have the best training set up and facility in League 1 together with three key roles: a Director of Football Operations, a Sporting Director and Head of Transfers. We have everything in place. 

 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

Seagrave won’t be sold because no one would want it. To be honest if the club were not run by absolute morons it would be a huge asset.

 

They need to commercialise it, open parts of it up, rent bits out, community, Leicestershire schools, tours etc. The players have lost the right to it being a private luxury spa by being shit. The club also needs to try and get fans back on side, nothing better than playing a schools tournament there for example.

 

It been a disaster because of the culture at the club, the women have been crap at Belvoir drive, it’s culture and structures that are the issue. 
 

Until there is a massive clear out nothing will change, we need to get King Power Out. 

[Wink84]

Does anyone know the actual amount it costs to run Seagrave? Ive seen someone mention £20m and another £15m a year which is crazy considering the turnover we'll have as a league one club, especially if we don't "promote next season" and have no parachute payments to keep us afloat.

 

Those say that the building isn't the problem, its the people running it that are the problem, whilst I agree. You have to say going from Belvoir Drive to Seagrave would probably make you feel like you've made it. To go from a tight knit training ground to lavish surroundings where everything is catered for would naturally change your mindset. There was no thought in how to transfer our family club feel, that fighting spirit that our motto "Foxes Never Quit" says. 

 

Whilst the intentions would have been in the right place during the planning, weve lost our identity moving to Seagrave. Now we have a bunch of average players that don't have to work hard for luxury, its just a given. There are lots of pros to having Seagrave but weve hit every nightmare that could have happened because everyone inside the club thought we had become an elite club that could take liberties thinking we'd never get relegated and expecting European football to be the norm. 

 

The long were in League One, the long Seagrave becomes a complete financial burden weighing over our necks.

[An Away Move]

Seagrave being bought by Coventry when we go into administration is going to sting a bit!

Edited 19 April by An Away Move

[Lad1966]

2 minutes ago, Wink84 said:

Does anyone know the actual amount it costs to run Seagrave? Ive seen someone mention £20m and another £15m a year which is crazy considering the turnover we'll have as a league one club, especially if we don't "promote next season" and have no parachute payments to keep us afloat.

 

Those say that the building isn't the problem, its the people running it that are the problem, whilst I agree. You have to say going from Belvoir Drive to Seagrave would probably make you feel like you've made it. To go from a tight knit training ground to lavish surroundings where everything is catered for would naturally change your mindset. There was no thought in how to transfer our family club feel, that fighting spirit that our motto "Foxes Never Quit" says. 

 

Whilst the intentions would have been in the right place during the planning, weve lost our identity moving to Seagrave. Now we have a bunch of average players that don't have to work hard for luxury, its just a given. There are lots of pros to having Seagrave but weve hit every nightmare that could have happened because everyone inside the club thought we had become an elite club that could take liberties thinking we'd never get relegated and expecting European football to be the norm. 

 

The long were in League One, the long Seagrave becomes a complete financial burden weighing over our necks.

Just mothball it. Cut down on unnecessary elements and keep the costs down.