john_lcfc Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 1-0 to arse at half time good game itv who else is watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 good game , fabregas is some player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 2-0 henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemmish Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Excellent result for Arsenal finishing 2-0 winners. Juventus lost their self control in the end with two players sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 How good is it to watch arsenal at their best! Viera who? Fabregas is immense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 How good is it to watch arsenal at their best!Viera who? Fabregas is immense Too right. Best in the country when they're at their top form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Everyone in the Arsenal team impressed em tonight, exceot Lehmann 'cos he had bob all to do. The players that stood out that little bit more for me were Eboue, Flamini and Fabregas who is awesome by the way. That Camorenesi (SP) was looking for that red card all night and what he did when he was walking off the pitch was very silly may i just add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anish Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Magnificent performance from Arsenal - outclassed the runaway leaders in every department. Truly awesome displays by Fabregas, Toure, and Eboue. Who said you need wingers to be successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationwider Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 They played really well. To be honest, they should just offer Henry £150k a week to stay and have done with it. I can't think of a Premiership player I'd rather have in my team (including Rooney). The big talking point of the night though - Gaby Logan: looking a bit goth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle_Fox Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Love watching arsenal with their fast attacking football, nobody better to watch in the prem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Sorry but I hate them, I hate anyone who's not leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Magnificent performance from Arsenal - outclassed the runaway leaders in every department. Truly awesome displays by Fabregas, Toure, and Eboue. Who said you need wingers to be successful? No - they never played with anyone wide! Only all the time!!!! They nearly wore the wings out on both flanks. And what was the comment about whether to "stick" or "twist" and what might happen if they tried to sit on their lead???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anish Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Yes, they played players wide - but who is a natural winger of them all? None of them are natural wingers - certainly not Reyes (more attacker than winger) nor Hleb. How many times do Arsenal get to the byeline to cross the ball in (like you're always going on about)? Rarely. Face it, they don't play with out and out wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 Whoever played wide at the time looked pretty good and they often had two players using the full width of each flank and constantly manoeuvring around the full backs. Henry took the piss down there at times. You just don't seem to believe the evidence before your own eyes. It was an absolutely brilliant example of constant wing play and a lesson for any aspiring manager. And who said anything about wingers having to cross the ball as such? Quite the contrary. I wish wide players would stop such aimless passes to non-aerial forwards and pass the ball precisely as Arsenal did. Some outstanding wingers (I mentioned Beckham and Hinton) could hit long passes accurately but passing accurately is the requirement and while we may not achieve Arsenal's excellence that is exactly as I'd like to see City play - using the full width of the pitch and with full-backs/midfield players supporting in numbers right up to and into the penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burger Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 I love it when pleat said it was like watching 5 a side on a friday morning. haha wtf did that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_4_Life Posted 28 March 2006 Share Posted 28 March 2006 It was a great win for Arsenal, and not that bad of a game to watch to. I hope arsenal can get to the final, i dunno why but i just hope any english club does well in the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 Arsenal were superb last night. Fabregas is fastly establishing himself as the best young central midfielder in the world. Barca must be seething. Both he and Toure were world class last night and I was very impressed with Eboue who looks to be a fantastic prospect, would have been nice to see Walcott come on for the last 20 mins and take the piss. On to the winger argument. I think it's fair to say that we've established that wingers aren't essential but you need width to be successful otherwise you become one dimensional. Reyes and Henry both started off as wingers and Pires has always been classed as a wide midfielder, but he's very versatile so you can't class him as a winger. Hleb has played on the right wing for several years at Stuttgart. My take is that Leicester need atleast one player who is comfortable on the wing and can provide them with width and a different option of getting the ball in to the box. They also need to be able to track back. If they aren't a natural winger but can do this job then brilliant, if they are a winger and can do that job then fantastic. Maybury and Hughes to me both look hindered on the wing, it's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 My definition of a winger is anyone playing out wide in an attacking sense, whether temporarily or permanently. Arsenal had various players who provided width but it wasn't a token gesture, they were all threatening as attackers, including full-back Toure, and the support for whoever was on the flank was just as close as everywhere else. The whole thing illustrated how vital it is to have fast, mobile, accurate, pass-and-move footballers who are as comfortable attacking as defending. People like Fabricas and Reyes did their grafting but were a constant goal/creative threat whereas we don't have that threat from wide or central midfield, apart from Joey who's leaving. Nor do we have it at left back and this must be changed if we are to have any real chance of success. Look how Arsenal's support players were constantly driving forward up to and into the penalty box. It might have been 4-5-1 on paper but it was often 3-4-3 or even 3-3-4 in reality. I bet the video is being studied all over the country at football clubs. Essential viewing I'd say because I have never before seen a top team made to look so static, so bewildered and so outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 <_< Your problem is that you see what you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 My definition of a winger is anyone playing out wide in an attacking sense, whether temporarily or permanently. Arsenal had various players who provided width but it wasn't a token gesture, they were all threatening as attackers, including full-back Toure, and the support for whoever was on the flank was just as close as everywhere else. The whole thing illustrated how vital it is to have fast, mobile, accurate, pass-and-move footballers who are as comfortable attacking as defending. People like Fabricas and Reyes did their grafting but were a constant goal/creative threat whereas we don't have that threat from wide or central midfield, apart from Joey who's leaving. Nor do we have it at left back and this must be changed if we are to have any real chance of success. Look how Arsenal's support players were constantly driving forward up to and into the penalty box. It might have been 4-5-1 on paper but it was often 3-4-3 or even 3-3-4 in reality. I bet the video is being studied all over the country at football clubs. Essential viewing I'd say because I have never before seen a top team made to look so static, so bewildered and so outdated. It seems a bit unrealistic to compare our team to Arsenal's and it's naive to think that we have the resources to build a team around the same model. I'd rather we look at a team like Reading who, to be honest, do not have a single player that would be out of our reach quality or resource-wise, and try and emulate that champion's attitude. The qualities that the Arsenal players have are some things that you only see sparingly and in glimpses in this league, and it tells it's own story when they went out and bought supposedly world class wingers Reyes and Hleb for huge sums. It's too reliant on vast amounts of talent, which we don't have and can never get.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 My definition of a winger is anyone playing out wide in an attacking sense, whether temporarily or permanently. Arsenal had various players who provided width but it wasn't a token gesture, they were all threatening as attackers, including full-back Toure, and the support for whoever was on the flank was just as close as everywhere else. The whole thing illustrated how vital it is to have fast, mobile, accurate, pass-and-move footballers who are as comfortable attacking as defending. People like Fabricas and Reyes did their grafting but were a constant goal/creative threat whereas we don't have that threat from wide or central midfield, apart from Joey who's leaving. Nor do we have it at left back and this must be changed if we are to have any real chance of success. Look how Arsenal's support players were constantly driving forward up to and into the penalty box. It might have been 4-5-1 on paper but it was often 3-4-3 or even 3-3-4 in reality. I bet the video is being studied all over the country at football clubs. Essential viewing I'd say because I have never before seen a top team made to look so static, so bewildered and so outdated. So we've convinced you that to use the full width fo the pitch you don't need "wingers?" Just good footballers with technical ability and movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_lcfc Posted 29 March 2006 Author Share Posted 29 March 2006 9 men wtf was that nob doing clapping/blowing kisses to the crowd? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh Tommy Posted 29 March 2006 Share Posted 29 March 2006 9 men wtf was that nob doing clapping/blowing kisses to the crowd? <_< That bloke was a nutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 30 March 2006 Share Posted 30 March 2006 That bloke was a nutter It would be interesting to know his manager's reaction. I bet he wouldn't have stayed around the club long under Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 March 2006 Share Posted 30 March 2006 Cameronsi is a Italian international winger, and a very good player. However he's also a nob ( I think he's half agentine which would explain it ) Cappelo knows this and will more then likely do little in the way of disciplining him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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