Lineker's Left Foot Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Having seen the meteoric rises of clubs like Wigan, Blackburn, Charlton, Fulham etc into becoming established Premiership clubs, I was thinking which 'small clubs' from large places could deserve their places in the Premiership.. I am thinking of this on the basis of the size of their cities ?? I believe these are some of those clubs :- Swansea City Peterborough United Oxford United Bristol Rovers/City - if they joined together?? Milton Keynes Dons - AND YES I REALISE IT IS REALLY WIMBLEDON BUT MILTON KEYNES IS A LARGE PLACE. Northampton Town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Northampton isn't a city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 I disagree on the Peterborough front. Their natural position would probably be around the first division. I don't think the city is that big... has a lovely cathedral though. Whatsmore, Barry Fry owns the club and they've been a declining force in recent years. Stating the obvious but Sheffield Wednesday should be doing better. Barnsley too and perhaps Oldham and Huddersfield who all have decent fan bases. Having said that, Wednesday and Barnsley have spent time in the Prem fairly recently, whilst Oldham did too (going back a bit). Swansea is a good shout though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugby Fox Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Surely Cardiff aswell then!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystonFox Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Carlisle and Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Having seen the meteoric rises of clubs like Wigan, Blackburn, Charlton, Fulham etc into becoming established Premiership clubs, I was thinking which 'small clubs' from large places could deserve their places in the Premiership.. I am thinking of this on the basis of the size of their cities ?? I believe these are some of those clubs :- Swansea City Peterborough United Oxford United Bristol Rovers/City - if they joined together?? Milton Keynes Dons - AND YES I REALISE IT IS REALLY WIMBLEDON BUT MILTON KEYNES IS A LARGE PLACE. Northampton Town One of the two Bristol clubs is the obvious point. I have also never understood why South London doesn't really have a big club. Oxford and Peterborough are quite small. Not on the same scale as Nottingham or Leicester. Isn't Hull supossed ot be massive? I really don't know my norhtern Cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationwider Posted 3 May 2006 Share Posted 3 May 2006 Bristol City definitely. Unfortunately, it's egg-chasing country down there even more so than in Leicestershire. Bradford is a decent-sized city, but again suffers from the egg-chasers (the other code), plus it's near Leeds, Halifax and Huddersfield too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 4 May 2006 Share Posted 4 May 2006 One of the two Bristol clubs is the obvious point. I have also never understood why South London doesn't really have a big club. Oxford and Peterborough are quite small. Not on the same scale as Nottingham or Leicester. Isn't Hull supossed ot be massive? I really don't know my norhtern Cities. Hull/Bradford/Wigan/Bristol clubs struggle to attract the supporters due to the rugby. This kinda negates the advantage of being a club in a big city. Also, for the Bristol clubs, there are two of them fighting for the same potential fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gist Posted 4 May 2006 Share Posted 4 May 2006 One of the two Bristol clubs is the obvious point. I have also never understood why South London doesn't really have a big club. Oxford and Peterborough are quite small. Not on the same scale as Nottingham or Leicester. Isn't Hull supossed ot be massive? I really don't know my norhtern Cities. Hull is the biggest place that has never seen top flight football .... I think so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted 4 May 2006 Share Posted 4 May 2006 Hull is the biggest place that has never seen top flight football .... I think so anyway. Nah this is the biggest place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 I disagree on the Peterborough front. Their natural position would probably be around the first division. I don't think the city is that big... has a lovely cathedral though. Whatsmore, Barry Fry owns the club and they've been a declining force in recent years. Stating the obvious but Sheffield Wednesday should be doing better. Barnsley too and perhaps Oldham and Huddersfield who all have decent fan bases. Having said that, Wednesday and Barnsley have spent time in the Prem fairly recently, whilst Oldham did too (going back a bit). Swansea is a good shout though. I co-wrote a book about Peterborough United once - at the time when John Banwell was involved there and people like Noel Cantwell and Ian Storey-Moore were knocking around at nearby Stamford (some parties they had at the time ). It was a marvellous place to live in the 70's, right up to date and quite dynamic and, being the biggest City around the Fens (though Wisbech is the Fenland Capital) the local girls were just born to have a good time. As I understand it there is massive further development planned there and the place is barely an hour by train from London. But it is full of trouble now as a place and the fan base isn't good and not really likely to grow because the catchment area is mainly small village farming communities. Northampton might manage it again though (new ground, good communications, vibrant prospective City) and Milton Keynes has great potential. Swansea? I don't really care what happens in Wales. In fact I wouldn't have Welsh clubs in the Football League/Premiership. Wales has its own League, like the Irish and Scots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 I co-wrote a book about Peterborough United once - at the time when John Banwell was involved there and people like Noel Cantwell and Ian Storey-Moore were knocking around at nearby Stamford (some parties they had at the time ). It was a marvellous place to live in the 70's, right up to date and quite dynamic and, being the biggest City around the Fens (though Wisbech is the Fenland Capital) the local girls were just born to have a good time. As I understand it there is massive further development planned there and the place is barely an hour by train from London. But it is full of trouble now as a place and the fan base isn't good and not really likely to grow because the catchment area is mainly small village farming communities. Northampton might manage it again though (new ground, good communications, vibrant prospective City) and Milton Keynes has great potential. Swansea? I don't really care what happens in Wales. In fact I wouldn't have Welsh clubs in the Football League/Premiership. Wales has its own League, like the Irish and Scots. I blame the lack of wingers and attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 Not Swansea. Championship, maybe. Cardiff though probably, yes, though th best call in the thread so far as been Sheffield Wednesday. As much as it pains us to say, Forest, too. Not Oxford, Bristol or Peterborough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 Northampton might manage it again though (new ground, good communications, vibrant prospective City) That is one of the funniest things I have ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wils Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 is a bit of a joke northampton r crap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 "Is" crap. Talking about the town being shite, not just the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wils Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 "Is" crap. Talking about the town being shite, not just the team. "My bad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 ... why did that need quotation marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 is a bit of a joke northampton r crap!!! Thats a load of old cobblers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Harpic Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 If Swansea is a big enough place to support a Premiership team, then Walsall, Preston North End, Luton Town, Plymouth Argyle, Stoke City, AFC Bournemouth and Dudley Town could all make it too. Swansea is not a big city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 I live reasonably near Peterborough and the reason they will never get the fan base is because most of them think they are cockneys aka Plastic Cockneys and so hop on the GNER down to Kings Cross and watch Chelseas et al on a Saturday/Sunday/Monday night. Peterborough could also benefit from having a change of ground, London Road is a horrible. It's hard to believe the Posh were in the same division as us in the mid-ish nineties as were Cambridge a few years before that!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 *Nods* Yup, agreed. Cardiff's actually only about the same size as Leicester and Swansea is about 100'000 people less (talking city limits here, not Counties.) Though with both (more so Cardiff than Swansea) you have to consider the area around, too. I mean keep in mind that Cardiff have a lot of fans outside of Cardiff and that if they were promoted to the premiership that would be even more so, as people would go to follow Cardiff as following Wales (though, obviously not the Jacks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 Blackpool should be up there with the best. The fan base alone visiting Blackpool each week should be enough to fill the Macarena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 Shame they're all going to the Sea Life Center instead of Bloomfield Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 5 May 2006 Share Posted 5 May 2006 I think most teams could make it to the top flight and stay there, as long as they had a big enough sugar daddy behind them. Look at Wigan. It's not so long ago they were on the same level as Bury or Rochdale. Then Dave Whelan took over, built them a new ground and the rest is history. John Madejski has also done the same thing with Reading. Swansea as a club has the same potential as say Watford or Preston. So if they got promoted to the Championship they would feel capable of holding their own with us and the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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