Shum Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Scotland Yard says it has disrupted a terror plot to blow up planes mid-flight using explosive devices hidden in hand luggage. Heightened security is causing delays at airports and MI5 has raised the UK threat level to critical. BBC Link
Dr The Singh Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Scotland Yard says it has disrupted a terror plot to blow up planes mid-flight using explosive devices hidden in hand luggage. Heightened security is causing delays at airports and MI5 has raised the UK threat level to critical. BBC Link Scary stuff, if true, what has gone wrong with the world....why can't people realise killing innocents in the name of god\religion is wrong. Whatever reason they are doing this, is no justification for such horror.....it will only turn people against them and there plight!!!
Steven Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Looks all to well orchestrated for my tastes. Yesterday we had Terror 'may force freedom curbs' and today we have 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled. How very convenient. Until I see someone convicted in a Court of Law over this one, and how many of terror scares do end in a conviction , then I think it is just this Government playing politics.
Janx Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Scary stuff, if true, what has gone wrong with the world....why can't people realise killing innocents in the name of god\religion is wrong. Whatever reason they are doing this, is no justification for such horror.....it will only turn people against them and there plight!!! Nothing to do with Religion matey, the same way hooliganism is nowt to do with footie.. its a POWER thing!
Dr The Singh Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Looks all to well orchestrated for my tastes. Yesterday we had Terror 'may force freedom curbs' and today we have 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled. How very convenient. Until I see someone convicted in a Court of Law over this one, and how many of terror scares do end in a conviction , then I think it is just this Government playing politics. Could well be a ply of the government to scare monger, but if there is an ounce of truth it's always better to be safe then sorry....and it's not like we haven't had a terrorist attack before!!!
Katy Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 I heard this on the news quite early this morning. It was only a matter of time before we are subjected to another terrorist attack, luckily we were on the case this time but what about next time? Me and Cobbo are off to London today - wish us luck
Steven Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Could well be a ply of the government to scare monger, but if there is an ounce of truth it's always better to be safe then sorry....and it's not like we haven't had a terrorist attack before!!! I am getting reminded too often of the boy that cried wolf.
Shum Posted 10 August 2006 Author Posted 10 August 2006 Heathrow Airport has been closed to all incoming flights that are not already in the air, following a police anti-terror operation. Stringent security measures have been put in place at airports across the UK. Passengers are being asked to check in all hand baggage except for some essential items and travellers are experiencing long delays. Flights from Brussels to all London airports have been cancelled. Lufthansa has also cancelled flights to the UK. BAA strongly advises all passengers not to travel to Heathrow airport unless the journey is essential and there is an increased police presence at London Underground stations leading to the airport. Heathrow management took the decision to close to all flights not already in the air due to the congestion at the airport.
Daggers Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Nothing to do with Religion matey, All done in his name though, eh?
Dr The Singh Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Nothing to do with Religion matey, the same way hooliganism is nowt to do with footie.. its a POWER thing! I don't understand Jankers, these individual want to become martyrs in the name of power, and they want there people to be in power ie take over Britian???? From my understanding, these people are at war with the British people for there governments policies in Iraq\Afghan\Palestine etc, ie people from the Islamic faith, and as people of that faith they believe as part of that faith that they have been justified to kill 'innocents', as revenge and act of war!!!!
l444ry Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Looks all to well orchestrated for my tastes. Yesterday we had Terror 'may force freedom curbs' and today we have 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled. How very convenient. Until I see someone convicted in a Court of Law over this one, and how many of terror scares do end in a conviction , then I think it is just this Government playing politics. That's half the problem now though. Someone can be as guilty as sin but with all these clever solicitors, race relations officers and civil rights nutters it gets harder to nail these people. Not just in terror cases but in all types of crime.
Dr The Singh Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 That's half the problem now though. Someone can be as guilty as sin but with all these clever solicitors, race relations officers and civil rights nutters it gets harder to nail these people. Not just in terror cases but in all types of crime. Agreed to a certain extent, these provisions have been applied to protect the public and provide a fair system but it has been abused on all accounts. Some people may say we have too many civil liberties and are too soft, certainly compared to many nations, I would agree!! I would state that if an individual loyalties are not with those in which he resides permanently(has passport) then they should not have the protection that country provides!!!
Bloomer Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 I am getting reminded too often of the boy that cried wolf. Why?
l444ry Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Agreed to a certain extent, these provisions have been applied to protect the public and provide a fair system but it has been abused on all accounts. Some people may say we have too many civil liberties and are too soft, certainly compared to many nations, I would agree!! I would state that if an individual loyalties are not with those in which he resides then they should not have the protection that country provides!!! Absolutely!!!! And when the next Muslim agitator claims his/her civil liberties are being infringed let him/her signify which Muslim state's human rights he/she would like us to adopt.....
Phube Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 I just think it's an airline conspiracy... forcing us to buy their over-priced food and drink!!! Boooooo!!!
Steven Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Why? The Ricin case, the two blokes who got raided recently, the fact that only one in a hundred of all terror arrest result in a conviction.
Steven Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 That's half the problem now though. Someone can be as guilty as sin but with all these clever solicitors, race relations officers and civil rights nutters it gets harder to nail these people. Not just in terror cases but in all types of crime. Of course it is all the Criminals fault for not wanting to be found guilty. Let us return to an era before the Magna Carta.
john_lcfc Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 arrestes in london,thames valley and the midlands please not a terrorist element in leicester
l444ry Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 Of course it is all the Criminals fault for not wanting to be found guilty. Let us return to an era before the Magna Carta. So I'll take it that you feel it's ok then for people like the Stephen Lawrence murderers, Abu Hamza and the Afghan plane hijackers (just 3 examples) to walk free because some clever legal eagle knows how to line his pocket at the expense of justice and taxpayers money?
Bloomer Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 The Ricin case, the two blokes who got raided recently, the fact that only one in a hundred of all terror arrest result in a conviction. So what would you do? Nothing? How old are you sonny? How easy do you think it is to infiltrate these groups? How easy do you think it is to catch them red handed? Sometimes you have to move to disrupt the chain so that activities are abandoned or delayed. These groups have no organsiational structure, they often operate from a single controlling source, whose hands never get dirty. There may be no charges or convictions possible, but be assured they will be involved somehere along the line, may be in a small way, but they are part of the chain. How easy is it to pontificate like some jelly arsed Liberal sitting in nice safe house somewhere. Too fecking easy sonny. Get some in before you make fecking juvenile remarks like that. And yes, I am a police officer.
Benji Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 So what would you do? Nothing? How old are you sonny? How easy do you think it is to infiltrate these groups? How easy do you think it is to catch them red handed? Sometimes you have to move to disrupt the chain so that activities are abandoned or delayed. These groups have no organsiational structure, they often operate from a single controlling source, whose hands never get dirty. There may be no charges or convictions possible, but be assured they will be involved somehere along the line, may be in a small way, but they are part of the chain. How easy is it to pontificate like some jelly arsed Liberal sitting in nice safe house somewhere. Too fecking easy sonny. Get some in before you make fecking juvenile remarks like that. And yes, I am a police officer. Nice, saved me typing an essay that doesn't make sense. I can't believe we didn't just let it happen and let the police say i told you so. They are in a no win situtation, damned if they do damned if they don't. Yes, there may be people falsely arrested, but is that not a sacrifice needed for the safety of a country? In a perfect world only the guilty will be stopped, but it's not a perfect world, if it was there would be no such word as terrorism.
Dr The Singh Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 So what would you do? Nothing? How old are you sonny? How easy do you think it is to infiltrate these groups? How easy do you think it is to catch them red handed? Sometimes you have to move to disrupt the chain so that activities are abandoned or delayed. These groups have no organsiational structure, they often operate from a single controlling source, whose hands never get dirty. There may be no charges or convictions possible, but be assured they will be involved somehere along the line, may be in a small way, but they are part of the chain. How easy is it to pontificate like some jelly arsed Liberal sitting in nice safe house somewhere. Too fecking easy sonny. Get some in before you make fecking juvenile remarks like that. And yes, I am a police officer. Bloomer you a police officer from Bethleham and Nazerath at weekends???? Seriously though, I understand in a limited manner the issues in trying to get a arrest and further getting the CPS to allow it to go to court etc. Would you say that the current laws\system in reference to terrorism are not enough, too soft and where does the balance lie in your opinion????
Benji Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 OMG, some woman has just said to BBC1 how she is angry with the inconvenience (sp?) and how she isn't allowed to take spare clothes. HMMM well how about not going on your fking trip at all? Do some people really not care for their own lives? If it meant i'd lose £100 on a plane ticket, i'd still be straight home if i was going heathrow today.
Daggers Posted 10 August 2006 Posted 10 August 2006 the two blokes who got raided recently... Aha, but they did allege that one of them had a huge stash of kiddy porn in order to deflect any criticism from their crap raid. A story that hasn't been backed up with a) evidence b) an court appearance c) a conviction
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