dandannieldanok Posted 6 July 2007 Posted 6 July 2007 Fryatt may not have the raw pace as the likes of Hammond but unlike our beloved Elvis, who has the touch of an elephant, Fryatt has decent dribbling speed and can take defenders on and worry them with his close ball control.
Thracian Posted 6 July 2007 Posted 6 July 2007 Yes I worry about that too, especially the speed. But he undoubtedly has talent as a finisher.I'd hate to see him leave here and become a success.As for his selfishness, all strikers have that. It's not so much his selfishness in box that bothers me - that's more about the best choice at the time - it's a little further out where he can be so frustrating and where players take the trouble to make a run only to find they've wasted their energy. Strikers should rarely be involved in anything but fast passing when 25 yards or more from goal. Their job in those situations is to keep the momentum going, to show nothing of their skills, to save their energy and give themselves maximum time to get into shooting range where their real work is done.
Guest Posted 6 July 2007 Posted 6 July 2007 It's not so much his selfishness in box that bothers me - that's more about the best choice at the time - it's a little further out where he can be so frustrating and where players take the trouble to make a run only to find they've wasted their energy. Strikers should rarely be involved in anything but fast passing when 25 yards or more from goal. Their job in those situations is to keep the momentum going, to show nothing of their skills, to save their energy and give themselves maximum time to get into shooting range where their real work is done. You're right of course but I also feel this is a training issue and if he gets the right coaching he'll be making runs down the flanks and behind rather than dropping deep for the ball. Also, I would suggest that by employing a target man like Cort it's more likely that Fryatt will be the front forward, as it were, rather than the drop back and show the world you're nothing like wayne rooney forward. My personal opinion is that Fryatt has bags of potential and will hit the net regularly if supplied properly as he showed when he first joijed. People seem to ignore the fact he was unfit for virtually the whole of last season.
Thracian Posted 6 July 2007 Posted 6 July 2007 You're right of course but I also feel this is a training issue and if he gets the right coaching he'll be making runs down the flanks and behind rather than dropping deep for the ball. Also, I would suggest that by employing a target man like Cort it's more likely that Fryatt will be the front forward, as it were, rather than the drop back and show the world you're nothing like wayne rooney forward. My personal opinion is that Fryatt has bags of potential and will hit the net regularly if supplied properly as he showed when he first joijed. People seem to ignore the fact he was unfit for virtually the whole of last season. Later on he was injured and I think he had foot probems from the start but, for all that fryatt wasn't properly fit when he started the season and should never have been chosen. It could well be that his apparent lack of fitness contributed to his injury-plagued season but, again, the fist time he came back there was very little preamble, no proper reserves team to help him back to match fitness and the guy was never anywhere near his best. Predictably, he was soon injured again and I lost count of the times I said he shouldn't even be considered for the starting line-up but should be brought back slowly from the bench. But no. Kelly had snookered himself by signing the hopeless Horsfield and recalled Louis Dodds only to tell him he was going to rely on experience to get him through the crisis after all and that he wouldn't be needed. Dodds went off to Rochdale, Horsfield forgot what scoring was (apart from the one game against Coventtry), Hume found himself further and further back in desperation, Hammond was inexplicably exiled with the fans catcalls in his ears and that left Fryatt who was never better than 50% of his real self. No matter how little his contribution, if Fryatt could walk he was picked. So no his injuries weren't ignored. It was just extraordinary that our manager continued to pick someone in his starting line-up who was so obviously lacking in proper match fitness. And he wasn't the only one. Kenton suffered similarly. And Johnson, Williams and probably Maybury. There really was no excuse for it. Apart from exceptional crises, I can never find an excuse for managers picking unfit footballers.
Guest Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 That's what's so interesting about MA's comments yesterday about Fryatt being man of the tounament in training - it sounds like he back to full fitness and raring to go. My personal opinion is that he'll be City's top scorer by the end of the season as I don't see Cort (or Lisbie or Job or Jeffers or anyone else we've been linked with) getting into much more than double figures this season whereas Fryatt's natural ability in front of goal makes him our poacher extroadinaire. With a decent supply line (still need a Hendrie-like midfielder to supply the final ball) I can see him hitting 20+ in a decent team.
Tubes Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 i dont think his lack of pace is a major issue because he has the skill, quality and close ball control to worry defenders, put them on the back foot and more importantly, go by them.
SystonFox Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 we cannot and should not sell a player like Fryatt at any price to a team in this division. if Wolves are seeing something in him (and everyone goes on about Wolves showing ambition now they spunked £2m on Eastweed) then we can keep him and watch him tear the championship up. shove your todorovs, varney, sharp, eastwood, kamara, cureton, desire-job and all the other 2bit strikers up your bums. fryatt will be our key striker next year.
Blue Bob Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 we cannot and should not sell a player like Fryatt at any price to a team in this division. if Wolves are seeing something in him (and everyone goes on about Wolves showing ambition now they spunked £2m on Eastweed) then we can keep him and watch him tear the championship up.shove your todorovs, varney, sharp, eastwood, kamara, cureton, desire-job and all the other 2bit strikers up your bums. fryatt will be our key striker next year. I hope they gave him a tissue
Thracian Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 we cannot and should not sell a player like Fryatt at any price to a team in this division. if Wolves are seeing something in him (and everyone goes on about Wolves showing ambition now they spunked £2m on Eastweed) then we can keep him and watch him tear the championship up.shove your todorovs, varney, sharp, eastwood, kamara, cureton, desire-job and all the other 2bit strikers up your bums. fryatt will be our key striker next year. Must say I'm coming round to that way of thinking IF his attitude stays right, IF he stays fit and IF he's prepared to genuinely work on being a better team player and on his other weaknesses and limitations. Eastwood's looked a threat every time I've seen him but I didn't see much which he does that Fryatt can't do.
The Reverend Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 Must say I'm coming round to that way of thinking IF his attitude stays right, IF he stays fit and IF he's prepared to genuinely work on being a better team player and on his other weaknesses and limitations.Eastwood's looked a threat every time I've seen him but I didn't see much which he does that Fryatt can't do. I've seen enough of Fryatt now that suggests he is a great player. People forget he is only 21, but he is such an intelligent footballer and his spell which effectively saved us the season before last showed what a great player we have on our hands. And that was in a seriously struggling team. He could fire us into the play-offs at least no doubt at all. He just needs to stay fit, which is strange because i dont think he had injury problems when he was younger at Walsall.
Micky Ruddle Posted 7 July 2007 Posted 7 July 2007 Well, i'm pleased that we have rejected that offer. I think he has talent, but it was a shame he had such an injury-ravaged season. Lets hope he has a good season under his belt this season.
Asha Posted 8 July 2007 Posted 8 July 2007 Must say I'm coming round to that way of thinking IF his attitude stays right, IF he stays fit and IF he's prepared to genuinely work on being a better team player and on his other weaknesses and limitations.Eastwood's looked a threat every time I've seen him but I didn't see much which he does that Fryatt can't do. score?
Geo V Posted 8 July 2007 Posted 8 July 2007 Fryatt may come good or may not but one thing seems for certain is that he wont be starting in the first eleven this season. Both MA and MM have openly admitted to wanting to sign another striker and have been linked to a few and Carl Cort would not sign for us to be 4th choice striker. Lets hope he reacts to this well and starts to do well in the reserves and earns a starting place if the front two mis-fire. It will be great to be ain a position for the first time in a while now to bring on a good quality striker if either of the starting 2 lose form. Having Elvis and COG to alternate things and then The Horse was not ideal last season
Candidcamera Posted 8 July 2007 Posted 8 July 2007 Forget about last season and remember how he started here at Leicester. At the beginning of last season I thought we had a centre forward who would score 20 goals a season in this division. He has been played too far back and although he is willing to add himself to the midfield he is not then up front. He holds the ball up well for his height, he can turn defenders and above all he is intelligent.
Thracian Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 score? Fryatt can score and has proved it at times. Last season he was like a knife with a blunt or broken blade. This season I hope he's mended, sharpened and sticking himself right into the hearts of opposition defences.
Tubes Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Fryatt can score and has proved it at times. Last season he was like a knife with a blunt or broken blade. This season I hope he's mended, sharpened and sticking himself right into the hearts of opposition defences. spot on thrac, look at his goal against derby brilliant turn and not one other player in the team could have slotted it away like fryatt did
The Bear Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again. One player who can be taken off McCarthy's wanted list is Leicester striker Matty Fryatt. Wolves made an enquiry about the former Walsall man but McCarthy has now ruled out making a bid following the arrival of Eastwood."I had some interest in him a while ago but that is dead in the water now. We've signed Freddy now so that won't happen." Sounds like he was only a back-up option.
Kent Fox Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again.Sounds like he was only a back-up option. Thank God for that. Cheers for the info, Bear. Bear? Wolf? Bear? Eh?
dandannieldanok Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again.Sounds like he was only a back-up option. Ah good so I presume you will be targeting Elvis Hammond then, I'm sure we will let you have him for the same price you offered for Fryatt, trust me he is all the back-up you need
Tubes Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again.Sounds like he was only a back-up option. i personally am glad! i just hope it wasnt an attempt to get a bigger offer that has backfired
sdb Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again.Sounds like he was only a back-up option. don't think he was a back up option seeing as you bid for him?! glad about that though, he needs to be judged at full fitness and i think he'll do well this season
Tommeh Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Just thought I'd let you know that we won't be coming in for Fryatt again.Sounds like he was only a back-up option. Great news, Fryatt's twice the player of that Gippo anyhow well he has the potential to be
The Reverend Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 Great news, Fryatt's twice the player of that Gippo anyhow well he has the potential to be Certainly the potential to be a better goalscorer.
Blue Bob Posted 9 July 2007 Posted 9 July 2007 glad we knocked them back, I think he will do well this season.
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