Fryatt Rumours ?

[Milan]

He had a shit season last year for reasons stated before. It is a fact though that his goals and partnership with Hume kept us up that year he signed so saying that Walsall had our pants down is a little misinformed.

[Thracian]

I dunno Thracian, champagne, whether Vintage or Ali brand taste like apple piss to me!!!

Ah, but after Barbar's isn't it all piss....?

[Sods]

when did tony cottee score outside the 6 yard box?

against man united away for one

I see your point though, should be 12 yards really

[Daggers]

Own brand to R Whites lemonade is a far better comparison.

Or Asda chocolate digestives to McVities.

[Ric Flair]

This post is directed to all the Matty Fryatt fans out there that continue to believe he will become the next Ronaldo just because he scored a few tap ins against poor opposition two seasons ago, anyway....

MATTY FRYATT IS SHIT.

Levein was a mug. Walsall had our pants down over the original cost to purchase the player, they could see we were in desperation so whacked the price up. Just because we paid over the actual value for Matty The Fatty doesn't necessarily make him a good player. He's weak and gets pushed off the ball far too easily, and I cannot recall him ever scoring from outside the six yard area and his passing his pretty woeful as well. Get rid.

To be fair Master Fox, we actually got Fryatt for well under the price that the media had been touting him about for. We paid £350,000 for him a few months after the media had claimed that the likes of Aston Villa and clubs in the Championship had been offering in excess of a million pound for him.

£350,000 seems to have been a fair price for him given his exploits in his first season here and then his nightmare season last year. Looks to me that it can go either of two ways. He re-discovers his form from 2005/06 season and that would mean he's capable of 15+ goals at this level or he has another crap season looking un-fit and out of sorts. Either way I think £350,000 is a fair price for him. I sincerely doubt Wolves offered anywhere near £900,000 upfront for him, because that's a figure I think Mandaric and Allen would have taken every day of the week. More than double your money on a player who has talent but also has serious questions over his fitness and desire to play for us.

One thing for sure is, he's not shit. But he's not going to be a world beater either by the looks of things.

[Fez of Mahrez]

To be fair Master Fox, we actually got Fryatt for well under the price that the media had been touting him about for. We paid £350,000 for him a few months after the media had claimed that the likes of Aston Villa and clubs in the Championship had been offering in excess of a million pound for him.

£350,000 seems to have been a fair price for him given his exploits in his first season here and then his nightmare season last year. Looks to me that it can go either of two ways. He re-discovers his form from 2005/06 season and that would mean he's capable of 15+ goals at this level or he has another crap season looking un-fit and out of sorts. Either way I think £350,000 is a fair price for him. I sincerely doubt Wolves offered anywhere near £900,000 upfront for him, because that's a figure I think Mandaric and Allen would have taken every day of the week. More than double your money on a player who has talent but also has serious questions over his fitness and desire to play for us.

One thing for sure is, he's not shit. But he's not going to be a world beater either by the looks of things.

That's a bit more realistic.

The bottom line is that Fryatt needs a very good team around him at this level to be effective, and I'm not sure we have that yet. Sign Hendrie and someone in the Izale McLeod mould for him to play alongside and he could be great for us but at the moment we need more than just a decent first touch and the odd finish, we need someone to rough up defences and provide a target for crosses.

[The People's Hero]

That's a bit more realistic.

The bottom line is that Fryatt needs a very good team around him at this level to be effective, and I'm not sure we have that yet. Sign Hendrie and someone in the Izale McLeod mould for him to play alongside and he could be great for us but at the moment we need more than just a decent first touch and the odd finish, we need someone to rough up defences and provide a target for crosses.

Like Trevor Benjamin.

Time to bring him back.

[Dr The Singh]

Like Trevor Benjamin.

Time to bring him back.

I love Rooster Russell, bring him back aswell!!!!

[Thracian]

I love Rooster Russell, bring him back aswell!!!!

Or "Oadby" Singh - he'd be a revelation on a flat pitch!

[Dr The Singh]

Or "Oadby" Singh - he'd be a revelation on a flat pitch!

I'll tell him that, he would be well chuffed!!!

[Daggers]

Wolves to sign Fowler?

Seems your average Wolves fan thinks exactly the same way I do.

Screw Fowler!

[Thracian]

That's a bit more realistic.

The bottom line is that Fryatt needs a very good team around him at this level to be effective, and I'm not sure we have that yet. Sign Hendrie and someone in the Izale McLeod mould for him to play alongside and he could be great for us but at the moment we need more than just a decent first touch and the odd finish, we need someone to rough up defences and provide a target for crosses.

Hell Fez, TPH might be half decent with brilliance all around him.

"And it's Neville to Scholes, clever turn, clipped pass to Beckham, curled cross, Drogba takes two defenders, shields the ball, dummies, touches it to Rooney whose fierce, first time volley is miraculously parried by the goalkeeper and rebounds to new signing TPH who instinctively ducks but scores from three inches as the ball rebounds off his back into the goal."

You can just see the headlines...

Lumbering

TPH Leads

World X1

"Back"

To The

Future

Maidstone Marvel Puts It All Down to Instinct

Does Fryatt REALLY want to play here?. Does he REALLY want to metaphorically die for the team.

I may be wrong but I've never thought so, at least more than briefly. And I've always thought him selfish, not a player who readily benefits the team other than when he scores.

Iain Hume's my kind.

Hume's had bad times, weeks out of the team, barren shooting spells but he's never let his head drop and always given his heart for Leicester - first team, reserve game, friendlies. The guy's a gem and has never taken one single penny he didn't deserve.

Forever-hounded Hammond is the same - chasing, pushing, shoving, getting kicked, tripped, charging into places where it hurts, doing his level best in every kind of match. And all he gets is the piss taken.

I don't see that in Fantasy Fryatt. When he's not scoring he doesn't do a lot of anything.

Yes, Fryatt might suddenly hit a rich vein of form just like they might find gold in Granby Street.

But forget Wolves or Preston. If he continues north he might as well stop in Carlisle and sign for Eddie Stobart Trucks.

Cos they'll carry anything. We can't afford to.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I won't quote it cos it's a bit long but regarding the above post, the reason I mentioned having good players around him is because he's purely a finisher (if that) from what I can work out.

I think he works far harder than you give him credit for, he chases down a lot of lost causes down the channels in particular. The main problem with him is that you can't rely on him for pace, strength, height, any sort of physicality at all, you need your team to be controlling the game because he won't offer the same outlet that someone like Hammond does, particularly away from home. We didn't have that control of the game from midfield at all last season. We should have it with players like Clemence and Kishishev this season but to me the question is whether we've got enough pace and height up front to justify Fryatt's inclusion too, and I personally don't think so.

[Thracian]

I won't quote it cos it's a bit long but regarding the above post, the reason I mentioned having good players around him is because he's purely a finisher (if that) from what I can work out.

I think he works far harder than you give him credit for, he chases down a lot of lost causes down the channels in particular. The main problem with him is that you can't rely on him for pace, strength, height, any sort of physicality at all, you need your team to be controlling the game because he won't offer the same outlet that someone like Hammond does, particularly away from home. We didn't have that control of the game from midfield at all last season. We should have it with players like Clemence and Kishishev this season but to me the question is whether we've got enough pace and height up front to justify Fryatt's inclusion too, and I personally don't think so.

You make some good points Fez. I've not given up on Fryatt but can't help but think the problems you've highlighted matter in our situation.

[Soar Fox]

Thracian I think you would like to see Fryatt fail by all your previous comments.

I agree he didn't have a good season last year but he shown in his first season here what he could do. I think he is are most natural finisher at the club and personally I would love it if he stayed at are club.

A fully fit Fryatt would get us 15+ goals a season.

But we all know you would love 11 Levi Porters in are team

[Thracian]

Thracian I think you would like to see Fryatt fail by all your previous comments.

I agree he didn't have a good season last year but he shown in his first season here what he could do. I think he is are most natural finisher at the club and personally I would love it if he stayed at are club.

A fully fit Fryatt would get us 15+ goals a season.

But we all know you would love 11 Levi Porters in are team

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I appreciate many other players in the City set-up every bit as much as Porter.

I would like to see Fryatt score the 20/25 goals that would make him a star striker.

And if he's our most natural finisher (a title given to Dodds by Kelly) then all I wish is that he'd show it this side of the next decade.

PS: I'm glad you agree he wasn't good last season. That's quite reassuring.

[Blue Bob]

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I appreciate many other players in the City set-up every bit as much as Porter.

I would like to see Fryatt score the 20/25 goals that would make him a star striker.

And if he's our most natural finisher (a title given to Dodds by Kelly) then all I wish is that he'd show it this side of the next decade.

PS: I'm glad you agree he wasn't good last season. That's quite reassuring.

In fairness no one was really good last season and thats why we were in a relegation scrap. I hope that with a better team who ever gets the nod to play up front will get better service from the midfield. I dont think we have recruited all our strikers yet so it is hard to say who will be a 15 / 20 goal striker, sure Fryatt has the potential but if he cant get in the side because he is kept out by Fowler and DJ or Hume and Cort or who ever then he cant score a goal!!!

[Thracian]

In fairness no one was really good last season and thats why we were in a relegation scrap. I hope that with a better team who ever gets the nod to play up front will get better service from the midfield. I dont think we have recruited all our strikers yet so it is hard to say who will be a 15 / 20 goal striker, sure Fryatt has the potential but if he cant get in the side because he is kept out by Fowler and DJ or Hume and Cort or who ever then he cant score a goal!!!

What do you suggest?

Will Fryatt want to fight his way back off the bench or from the Reserves like Humey would or Hammond?.

If not then you understand part of the point I make.

The other part is that after so long having Fryatt not functioning properly, we need a striker we can rely on to score goals AND help others to score. It is no use waiting til two months into the season.

If Fryatt can or wishes to embrace the team ethic perhaps he's still got a chance but that chance is rapidly starting to look like a long shot - even before any new strikers arrive, as they surely will.

[Guest]

I won't quote it cos it's a bit long but regarding the above post, the reason I mentioned having good players around him is because he's purely a finisher (if that) from what I can work out.

I think he works far harder than you give him credit for, he chases down a lot of lost causes down the channels in particular. The main problem with him is that you can't rely on him for pace, strength, height, any sort of physicality at all, you need your team to be controlling the game because he won't offer the same outlet that someone like Hammond does, particularly away from home. We didn't have that control of the game from midfield at all last season. We should have it with players like Clemence and Kishishev this season but to me the question is whether we've got enough pace and height up front to justify Fryatt's inclusion too, and I personally don't think so.

Aside from the hammonf bit you make him sound like owen for england most of the time

[bringbackWalshie]

or dare i say it linekar! All teams need a natural poacher, how has the intelligence to be in the right place at the right time. Yes it maybe a luxery player but given some of the quality where beginning to buy i personnally feel that he could get us 20 goals. His goal against derby showed the composer and quality he possesses.

[Blue Bob]

What do you suggest?

Will Fryatt want to fight his way back off the bench or from the Reserves like Humey would or Hammond?.

If not then you understand part of the point I make.

The other part is that after so long having Fryatt not functioning properly, we need a striker we can rely on to score goals AND help others to score. It is no use waiting til two months into the season.

If Fryatt can or wishes to embrace the team ethic perhaps he's still got a chance but that chance is rapidly starting to look like a long shot - even before any new strikers arrive, as they surely will.

I think much of that will depend on Fryatt, is he committed to the club and is he prepared to fight for his place. In some fairness that goes for every player, for once we seem to have masses of players and there will be a lot of competition for places. I think it is hard to tell at this moment who will win the battle for a place in the various positions. I think it is great that MA will look at every player from youth to transfer listed and give them a chance, I think this is very refreshing from last season.

Of course I understand the point you make but it is not for me to answer, thats down to the players - I will be sitting back and enjoying watching it all unfold, hopefully into an excellent season.

[Geo V]

I love Rooster Russell, bring him back aswell!!!!

Now there was an absolute legend!! I can still hear the echoes of the chant from Penn 3 in the distance . I think I may need help.

BTW, I see that Wolves have almost signed Elliott from Sunderland http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...to+land+Elliott

I suppose that will end their interest in Matty?

[Ric Flair]

Hell Fez, TPH might be half decent with brilliance all around him.

"And it's Neville to Scholes, clever turn, clipped pass to Beckham, curled cross, Drogba takes two defenders, shields the ball, dummies, touches it to Rooney whose fierce, first time volley is miraculously parried by the goalkeeper and rebounds to new signing TPH who instinctively ducks but scores from three inches as the ball rebounds off his back into the goal."

You can just see the headlines...

Lumbering

TPH Leads

World X1

"Back"

To The

Future

Maidstone Marvel Puts It All Down to Instinct

Does Fryatt REALLY want to play here?. Does he REALLY want to metaphorically die for the team.

I may be wrong but I've never thought so, at least more than briefly. And I've always thought him selfish, not a player who readily benefits the team other than when he scores.

Iain Hume's my kind.

Hume's had bad times, weeks out of the team, barren shooting spells but he's never let his head drop and always given his heart for Leicester - first team, reserve game, friendlies. The guy's a gem and has never taken one single penny he didn't deserve.

Forever-hounded Hammond is the same - chasing, pushing, shoving, getting kicked, tripped, charging into places where it hurts, doing his level best in every kind of match. And all he gets is the piss taken.

I don't see that in Fantasy Fryatt. When he's not scoring he doesn't do a lot of anything.

Yes, Fryatt might suddenly hit a rich vein of form just like they might find gold in Granby Street.

But forget Wolves or Preston. If he continues north he might as well stop in Carlisle and sign for Eddie Stobart Trucks.

Cos they'll carry anything. We can't afford to.

Elvis Hammond is not forever chasing down lost causes. If something doesn't go his way, he throws his hands in the air and then sulks. He never leaps in the air to challenge a defender and I don't recall him charging in where it hurts. What he does do though is stretch defences with his pace, which if he could pass, think and shoot then he'd be a quality footballer.

It amazes me where you have got this ideology from that Hammond is an aggressive striker.

[Daggers]

I agree with Thracian

[Geo V]

How anyone can defend Elvis ahead of the potential of Matty is beyond me. You dont see Wolves coming in to bid a 7 figure sum for Elvis do you??! We saw more in a few months in the back end of the 05/06 season to suggest that Matty is a good player that could come really good. Elvis on the other hand has one attribute that is stand-out and some people seem to be so keen on the donkey that forget that he has an atrocious career strike rate for a striker who is almost 27 years old. BTW, Im not sure if this quote of wikipedia was put on here but which joker did it???....

"As of June 4, 2007 Elvis was placed on the transfer list by Leicester manager Martin Allen [1] and on 9 July 2007, it was reported that Spanish La Liga Club Real Mallorca are moving for the Ghana striker. Mallorca are willing to offer £4 million for the ex-Fulham trainee."