Louis Dodds

[Finnegan]

Why don't you ever, just for once, add something constructive to a conversation?

Mostly because we've had this discussion a thousand times. Your eccentric, over-the-top praise for Dodds, Porter, King and co' does YOU no credit. EVERYBODY is fed up of reading it.

When I first joined this forum, do you know whose posts I read and took more seriously than anyone else's? Yours. I thought, as a FT Rookie "You know what? That Thracian seems to know his stuff." I was interested in the future of Leicester, I believed - and still do - that we should put more stock in youth development and I was excited to learn that Leicester had these great lads waiting in the wings.

But the more I read, the dafter you got. I saw Odihambo (sp?) play, I saw Porter play, I saw Dodds go off and underachieve at even the lowliest of levels and you just screw your eyes shut and blindly deny every piece of fact, evidence or argument put in your way. It isn't just Hullfox, Manwell and Jimbo nay-saying. It's everyone saying "You know what, Thracian? Elvis Hammond is WOEFUL" and your total inability to accept that you may have been wrong, or that a youth player from another academy (Fryatt, par example) may have just come in and trumped everything we already had - and you already loved.

Nowadays I'm left with less respect for you than 90% of the forums fanbase and it's tragic. I feel left down, betrayed almost. I've read every single thing you have to say, and that's why I let your threads descend into farce, why I 'clean up' some of your more repetitive and sarcy digs and why I'll probably continue to do so, rolling my eyes as I go. Shame, really.

[THEBIGJOHNSTEADER;]

Hmm, that's pretty lucrative! Only problem is, you've probably lost that in cleaning products gettin rid of the mess, like.

Not really, never had any fluids spilt or anything

[STUHILL]

Mostly because we've had this discussion a thousand times. Your eccentric, over-the-top praise for Dodds, Porter, King and co' does YOU no credit. EVERYBODY is fed up of reading it.

When I first joined this forum, do you know whose posts I read and took more seriously than anyone else's? Yours. I thought, as a FT Rookie "You know what? That Thracian seems to know his stuff." I was interested in the future of Leicester, I believed - and still do - that we should put more stock in youth development and I was excited to learn that Leicester had these great lads waiting in the wings.

But the more I read, the dafter you got. I saw Odihambo (sp?) play, I saw Porter play, I saw Dodds go off and underachieve at even the lowliest of levels and you just screw your eyes shut and blindly deny every piece of fact, evidence or argument put in your way. It isn't just Hullfox, Manwell and Jimbo nay-saying. It's everyone saying "You know what, Thracian? Elvis Hammond is WOEFUL" and your total inability to accept that you may have been wrong, or that a youth player from another academy (Fryatt, par example) may have just come in and trumped everything we already had - and you already loved.

Nowadays I'm left with less respect for you than 90% of the forums fanbase and it's tragic. I feel left down, betrayed almost. I've read every single thing you have to say, and that's why I let your threads descend into farce, why I 'clean up' some of your more repetitive and sarcy digs and why I'll probably continue to do so, rolling my eyes as I go. Shame, really.

WOW great post! I have to agree. People have totally lost patience with Thracian. When i first joined I had a fair few arguments with him but nowadays can't even be bothered. I still can't help but hang on to the hope though, that when some of these potential 'super star' youth players Thracian mentions, fail and spend the rest of their career in league 2 or below, then he will finally be able to admit that perhaps he was wrong in having so much faith in them. I actually blame Thracian for players like Dodds and Porter getting so much abuse in here, as he is the one that hypes them up to such a level that they are always likely to be a disapointment!

[Thracian]

Mostly because we've had this discussion a thousand times. Your eccentric, over-the-top praise for Dodds, Porter, King and co' does YOU no credit. EVERYBODY is fed up of reading it.

When I first joined this forum, do you know whose posts I read and took more seriously than anyone else's? Yours. I thought, as a FT Rookie "You know what? That Thracian seems to know his stuff." I was interested in the future of Leicester, I believed - and still do - that we should put more stock in youth development and I was excited to learn that Leicester had these great lads waiting in the wings.

But the more I read, the dafter you got. I saw Odihambo (sp?) play, I saw Porter play, I saw Dodds go off and underachieve at even the lowliest of levels and you just screw your eyes shut and blindly deny every piece of fact, evidence or argument put in your way. It isn't just Hullfox, Manwell and Jimbo nay-saying. It's everyone saying "You know what, Thracian? Elvis Hammond is WOEFUL" and your total inability to accept that you may have been wrong, or that a youth player from another academy (Fryatt, par example) may have just come in and trumped everything we already had - and you already loved.

Nowadays I'm left with less respect for you than 90% of the forums fanbase and it's tragic. I feel left down, betrayed almost. I've read every single thing you have to say, and that's why I let your threads descend into farce, why I 'clean up' some of your more repetitive and sarcy digs and why I'll probably continue to do so, rolling my eyes as I go. Shame, really.

If you think I'd have any problem with MF coming in and scoring a bagful of goals you're quite wrong - and if you've read

my threads from the season before last you'll see that.

But he hasn't.

You say I blind myself to reality when people say Hammond was worse than MF last season or even that MF is our best striker, better even than Hume?.

Why should I believe when it simply isn't the truth and there isn't a single fact to suggest it is.

This isn't about any of the youngsters you mention - all our first team youngsters have done okay.

It is about two things.

An apparent obsession with me admitting I'm wrong.

And stacks of people believing MF is a good striker who should be given another season (after the season he's already had) to prove it.

Well, I've no problem admitting I'm wrong...and have done so on occasions that are conveniently forgotten.

But nothing about Dodds has been proved.

Hammond WAS a better contributor last season than MF.

And in the absence of any signs suggesting MF can trump everything we have - which I would more than welcome - we cannot afford to spend another season like last simply hoping he hits form sometime.

If you chose to believe otherwise then I hope it works out.

[Lets Be having You]

Mostly because we've had this discussion a thousand times. Your eccentric, over-the-top praise for Dodds, Porter, King and co' does YOU no credit. EVERYBODY is fed up of reading it.

When I first joined this forum, do you know whose posts I read and took more seriously than anyone else's? Yours. I thought, as a FT Rookie "You know what? That Thracian seems to know his stuff." I was interested in the future of Leicester, I believed - and still do - that we should put more stock in youth development and I was excited to learn that Leicester had these great lads waiting in the wings.

But the more I read, the dafter you got. I saw Odihambo (sp?) play, I saw Porter play, I saw Dodds go off and underachieve at even the lowliest of levels and you just screw your eyes shut and blindly deny every piece of fact, evidence or argument put in your way. It isn't just Hullfox, Manwell and Jimbo nay-saying. It's everyone saying "You know what, Thracian? Elvis Hammond is WOEFUL" and your total inability to accept that you may have been wrong, or that a youth player from another academy (Fryatt, par example) may have just come in and trumped everything we already had - and you already loved.

Nowadays I'm left with less respect for you than 90% of the forums fanbase and it's tragic. I feel left down, betrayed almost. I've read every single thing you have to say, and that's why I let your threads descend into farce, why I 'clean up' some of your more repetitive and sarcy digs and why I'll probably continue to do so, rolling my eyes as I go. Shame, really.

this forum is about opinions,well i thought it was,and we all have one,i dont agree,with yours,but i'm not a mod so i can not remove yours or edit it,there is a lot of rubbish on this forum,but its about opinions,lets keep it that way,if people laugh at his post so what,i'm sure some have laughed at your editing and removing of some posts.

Have a Nice day and chill

[Simi]

Again.

Good luck to him..blah.

[Alexikokopops]

Why don't you ever, just for once, add something constructive to a conversation?

Your endless juvenile asides do you no credit.

And all your mocking just bounces off me cos I've lived most of my life and am more than happy with the way its panned out.

But for someone as young as you are - and as singularly gifted as the impression you convey - I'm surprised you're not out there changing the world - or at least improving your cricket.

Chance is only there for so long.

I am rubber, you are glue,

Bounces off me and sticks to you!!

[Manwell Pablo]

It's tedious the amount he goes on about them but then again that is his opinion.

And in this case you can't really blame him for voiceing his opinion on Louis Dodds, in a thread entitled Louis Dodds, RE him going on loan to Lincoln especially when a Lincoln fan has asked for one.

It's when every thread seems to come down to the same common denominator but then it isn't always his fault the conversation ends up taking that direction, quite often someone will have goaded him about one of the players he champions, I'll admit Im guilty of it sometimes.

[renards]

Look, I've never seen Louis Dodds play but I am quietly confident that he's shit and never going to play regular first team football for us. So let's stop talking about the little scrote for one day. Perlease!!!

What did you expect to read in a post is called 'Louis Dodds'?

+ how did you come up with the opinion he is shit and a little scrote without actually seeing him play or meeting him?

[Finnegan]

But we all know MF spent most of the season either unfit or injured, what was Elvis Hammond's excuse?

You see everything how you want to, Thracian, not how it is. You see totally two-dimensionally and obtusely with Matty Fryatt because it suits you. You see pure statistics "Hammond scored more goals" not "Hammond scored more goals, because he had hundreds more opportunities" or "Hammond missed more sitters" or anything else.

Then you see completely cryptically and 'para-dimensionally' when it comes to Dodds and co', misquoting, misrepresenting fact, quoting irrelevant statistics and otherwise carrying on like a tabloid journalist just to try to convince the Let'sBeHavingYou's of this world that you might be on to something.

Fortunately a majority share of the forum's populous are evidently starting to see through it.

[Webbo]

<bit of a rant>

Thracian no different to the rest of us on here, sometimes he talks crap, sometimes he talks sense, usually it's somewhere in the middle. We're all capable of making our own minds up on his opinions and ignoring them if we want.Lighten up, it's only the internet.

[Lets Be having You]

But we all know MF spent most of the season either unfit or injured, what was Elvis Hammond's excuse?

You see everything how you want to, Thracian, not how it is. You see totally two-dimensionally and obtusely with Matty Fryatt because it suits you. You see pure statistics "Hammond scored more goals" not "Hammond scored more goals, because he had hundreds more opportunities" or "Hammond missed more sitters" or anything else.

Then you see completely cryptically and 'para-dimensionally' when it comes to Dodds and co', misquoting, misrepresenting fact, quoting irrelevant statistics and otherwise carrying on like a tabloid journalist just to try to convince the Let'sBeHavingYou's of this world that you might be on to something.

Fortunately a majority share of the forum's populous are evidently starting to see through it.

The Lets be having you of this forum,are more than happy to form there own opinion,and i have done on many a time,i'm just forming an opinion about you,and let me tell you its not looking good,but i kno your not bothered,but you need to get your attiude a little lighter.just cause you have admin or mod status does no make you right or wrong,Its has i said its about opinions

[Bellend Sebastian]

I've seen Dodds play a couple of times and although he undoubtedly has some quality, his distribution and finishing both being very good, he doesn't give the impression of being particularly sharp. I imagine that the management think that he isn't suited to the often frantic pace of competitive games and would need time on the ball that the opposition aren't going to give him

[Webbo]

I've seen Dodds play a couple of times and although he undoubtedly has some quality, his distribution and finishing both being very good, he doesn't give the impression of being particularly sharp. I imagine that the management think that he isn't suited to the often frantic pace of competitive games and would need time on the ball that the opposition aren't going to give him

back. 2 posts in 18 months What took you so long?

[Bellend Sebastian]

back. 2 posts in 18 months What took you so long?

Hiya

I realised that my user name was very similar to someone else's and it took me a mere year and a half to get round to having it changed.

I didn't want to cause confusion, it's a confusing enough place as it is

[Webbo]

Hiya

I realised that my user name was very similar to someone else's and it took me a mere year and a half to get round to having it changed.

I didn't want to cause confusion, it's a confusing enough place as it is

Stick around, you haven't missed much in the last 3 months on here, but things are starting to pick up.

[Lord Nibblington]

Yay. A Louis Dodds thread!

And I'm so happy that the first line of Thracian's opinion used Rob Kelly's "Best natural finisher" quote.

Yet we've all seen that Rob Kelly is quite an idiot, which somewhat, in my opinion, negates the power of that statement.

Marvellous stuff.

[Alexikokopops]

Yay. A Louis Dodds thread!

And I'm so happy that the first line of Thracian's opinion used Rob Kelly's "Best natural finisher" quote.

Yet we've all seen that Rob Kelly is quite an idiot, which somewhat, in my opinion, negates the power of that statement.

Marvellous stuff.

Except he neglected to mention it was by our Rob.

That would, after all, render it null and void.

Am I just stirring things up?

I'm not even sure myself.

[Geo V]

He isn't as good as his granddad Ken when it comes to telling jokes but he is a rebel because he added an "S" at the end of his surname to be different from everyone else in the family. He is a rebel without a cause and a trouble maker that will tarnish your clubs good name. He`ll score 40 goals easy.

[Thracian]

But we all know MF spent most of the season either unfit or injured, what was Elvis Hammond's excuse?

You see everything how you want to, Thracian, not how it is. You see totally two-dimensionally and obtusely with Matty Fryatt because it suits you. You see pure statistics "Hammond scored more goals" not "Hammond scored more goals, because he had hundreds more opportunities" or "Hammond missed more sitters" or anything else.

Then you see completely cryptically and 'para-dimensionally' when it comes to Dodds and co', misquoting, misrepresenting fact, quoting irrelevant statistics and otherwise carrying on like a tabloid journalist just to try to convince the Let'sBeHavingYou's of this world that you might be on to something.

Fortunately a majority share of the forum's populous are evidently starting to see through it.

There's nothing to see through - the facts are clear. Fryatt has scored a handful of goals in 15 months and that needs to change or he'll be acting as a brake on our promotion bid.

Fryatt's being unfit or injured last season is no excuse. If he wasn't fit he shouldn't have been picked as I mentioned several times.

Unkind as it may seem unfit or injured footballers are no use to anyone except for developing the skills of medics and fitness trainers. Even when he looked fitter he didn't score or make many either so what would the excuse be for that?

It's no use dismissing statistics. They are vital guides and Martin Allen this evening explained how he referrred to them constantly, for instance in relation to how many defenders were best employed defending set pieces.

And being so seemingly sure of your view, perhaps you would explain to me why I would possibly want to deliberately misquote or misrepresent statistics about anyone.

What would I have to gain? And how do you have the gall to call my stats when Hammond, contrary to the impression you give, actually had a better scoring record than Fryatt last season from fewer starts and fewer appearances overall.

As I've said but you choose to ignore, I don't give a toss who plays centre-forward or, indeed, any other position for our club so long as it's the best person available.

Nothing would have pleased me more than for a now apparently fit MF to grab a stack of goals pre-season and convince me he was aching to play for Leicester and back to his best . But he hasn't and I don't think it has gone unnoticed.

He wasn't among the 13 (presumed) first teamers training at the Walkers tonight and when MA was asked to say who might take our penalties this season he mentioned Hume and Clemence but failed to say anything about penalty specialist Fryatt.

Could have been an oversight I suppose but it did make me wonder.

Either way IF MF plays in the BCD friendly against Cheltenham it would be a good time to register some goals.

[Geo V]

There's nothing to see through - the facts are clear. Fryatt has scored a handful of goals in 15 months and that needs to change or he'll be acting as a brake on our promotion bid.

Fryatt's being unfit or injured last season is no excuse. If he wasn't fit he shouldn't have been picked as I mentioned several times.

Unkind as it may seem unfit or injured footballers are no use to anyone except for developing the skills of medics and fitness trainers. Even when he looked fitter he didn't score or make many either so what would the excuse be for that?

What would I have to gain? And how do you have the gall to call my stats when Hammond, contrary to the impression you give, actually had a better scoring record than Fryatt last season from fewer starts and fewer appearances overall.

Nothing would have pleased me more than for a now apparently fit MF to grab a stack of goals pre-season and convince me he was aching to play for Leicester and back to his best . But he hasn't and I don't think it has gone unnoticed.

Either way IF MF plays in the BCD friendly against Cheltenham it would be a good time to register some goals.

Someone being injured is actually a decent reason as to why someone isnt playing to their potential! Why is it we allow foriegn players time to settle at a new club but when a 20yo kid comes to a new club and knows no-one, we demand instant success??? Let the lad have a chance now he is part of the word work.

As for whether he is in MA`s plans or not is actually irrelevent when assessing a players ability. Elvis has been on the list and we cant get any bids and Fryatt who isn't on the list has been subject to bids from one of the divisions favourites for promotion and it is rumoured they will need to pay a 7 figure sum for his services. The point is others have spotted that he has ability and they think he will come good but some of our fans think they he has had plenty of chances to succeed. Also you ask why he didn't score when fit. Even the worlds best strikers like Shevchenko can go 10 plus games without a goal. Also, players like him dont have AJ, Low, Levi and the rest of the muppet squad behind him like Fryatt did at the start of last season. In my opinion the discussions about Dodds, Elvis an dthe rest are total bollox. You can talk stats all you like but statistically, Elvis has done fook all in his career and is 27, Dodds failed miserably on loan to a D2 club last season and despite scoring 2 in 9 I think and suffered the embarrassment of being subbed at half-time, not scoring when his team banged in 7 and generally didnt impress and MF scored a bagfull in his first proper run in a side when playing for Walsall and has shown glimpses of his class despite his fitness problems and playing in a shite team.

Watch the kid go this season, whether its for us or someone else......

[Thracian]

Someone being injured is actually a decent reason as to why someone isnt playing to their potential! Why is it we allow foriegn players time to settle at a new club but when a 20yo kid comes to a new club and knows no-one, we demand instant success??? Let the lad have a chance now he is part of the word work.

As for whether he is in MA`s plans or not is actually irrelevent when assessing a players ability. Elvis has been on the list and we cant get any bids and Fryatt who isn't on the list has been subject to bids from one of the divisions favourites for promotion and it is rumoured they will need to pay a 7 figure sum for his services. The point is others have spotted that he has ability and they think he will come good but some of our fans think they he has had plenty of chances to succeed. Also you ask why he didn't score when fit. Even the worlds best strikers like Shevchenko can go 10 plus games without a goal. Also, players like him dont have AJ, Low, Levi and the rest of the muppet squad behind him like Fryatt did at the start of last season. In my opinion the discussions about Dodds, Elvis an dthe rest are total bollox. You can talk stats all you like but statistically, Elvis has done fook all in his career and is 27, Dodds failed miserably on loan to a D2 club last season and despite scoring 2 in 9 I think and suffered the embarrassment of being subbed at half-time, not scoring when his team banged in 7 and generally didnt impress and MF scored a bagfull in his first proper run in a side when playing for Walsall and has shown glimpses of his class despite his fitness problems and playing in a shite team.

Watch the kid go this season, whether its for us or someone else......

We'll agree to disagree on much of the above but I look forward to "watching him go" this season

and being proved totally wrong. Because I assure you, it gives me no pleasure to see any player performing badly except when they play against us.

[Dames]

Dodds has no future here.

Going on Loan is helping him get in the shop window so he can find a new club come next summer.

[Thracian]

Dodds has no future here.

Going on Loan is helping him get in the shop window so he can find a new club come next summer.

I totally agree. Doesn't mean it was right not to give him a chance considering the way several strikers have played for us these last few months.

[lildave3]

This thread is ****ing ridiculous.

I like.