Time to get rid of Levi Porter

[Father Ted]

For me Porter was all about the final ball.

Time after time he'd get past his man, be in a fantastic position but then take his pick out of a) making the worst decision in the world or b) hitting the poorest pass/cross you've ever seen.

If someone could sort out his crossing more than anything else, he'd be an almost guarentee on my 1st team sheet, but he is so fking frustrating when he does all the hard work and then plonks a cross 20 yards too far or fails to beat the first man.

These players are PAID PROFESSIONALS, how the FOOK can they not clear the first man on a corner?

He never gets past his man. If he wanted to he could, the amount of times he could out pace his man and be in a brilliant position are unbeleivable but he never wants to. He's got pace* and thats it!

*And he don't know how to use it.

[Shroomjuice]

Porter..........ummmmmm another tommy right, will drop down through the leagues and end up at the likes of Darlington. Not good enough never will be GET RID

[BigGibbo]

I think porter is o.k he's fairly quick can beat the odd man but not alot of end product i think he'll probably go the same way as jamie lawrence as a good standard lower league player or average championship player that can on his day look good!

[Thracian]

He never gets past his man. If he wanted to he could, the amount of times he could out pace his man and be in a brilliant position are unbeleivable but he never wants to. He's got pace* and thats it!

*And he don't know how to use it.

Fryatt gave a glaring example of doing that in the reserves two games ago but it was barely mentioned. And Porter doesn't have pace. Not real pace. He looks quick because he's small but Hammond would leave him standing. Porter needs passing opportunities to be most effective. He should spend his entire game passing, moving and consciously trying things which will hurt people. He needs to threaten the box more and shoot more. For some reason he has stopped making goals and scoring them. Right now he has little competition but Hayes, Ferreira and Andy King within a 4-3-3 will soon offer credible options I am quite sure.

[Guest]

However he is bound to be poor when he is dealing with constant long balls, same with Hume and DJ though.

There were some spells yesterday where we managed to pass the ball. On the deck. And all that. Porter still didn't have a clue, to be fair.

[DB11]

Cort played well i thought....

[Pete_foxes]

Porter was shocking against QPR. Hes a one trick pony, defence can work him out & even a poor team like QPR can work him out & contain him. Wheres Kaebi or Ferraria?

[Thracian]

There were some spells yesterday where we managed to pass the ball. On the deck. And all that. Porter still didn't have a clue, to be fair.

Yes there was the odd passing movement. But it's stretching the point to call them "spells".

The passing was nothing like we showed against Watford and even Blackpool at times, despite our defeat.

And while I've not checked a video I seem to recall there were several others who as bad or worse than Porter for making a move break down.

It would serve no great purpose to mention names.

[Guest]

Yes there was the odd passing movement. But it's stretching the point to call them "spells".

Forgive me if I'm trying to pull out some positives from what was a more than disappointing day.

[Jimmy]

Fryatt gave a glaring example of doing that in the reserves two games ago but it was barely mentioned. And Porter doesn't have pace. Not real pace. He looks quick because he's small but Hammond would leave him standing. Porter needs passing opportunities to be most effective. He should spend his entire game passing, moving and consciously trying things which will hurt people. He needs to threaten the box more and shoot more. For some reason he has stopped making goals and scoring them. Right now he has little competition but Hayes, Ferreira and Andy King within a 4-3-3 will soon offer credible options I am quite sure.

Fryatt did that in a reserve game that hardly anyone went to, Porter does it alot in 1st team games, he isn't good enough, isn't strong enough for a central role, get over your obsession

[Micky Ruddle]

Why did we clap him when he got subbed? Why did i clap him I mustv'e clapped Gary Megson for taking him off...finally.

Cort played well i thought....

Please say you are joking...

[Thracian]

Fryatt did that in a reserve game that hardly anyone went to, Porter does it alot in 1st team games, he isn't good enough, isn't strong enough for a central role, get over your obsession

No. You, like others will make an excuse for Fryatt but use is as a stick to beat Porter. In a passing side Porter is perfectly strong enough to play any midfield position.

Whether he will find a role that plays to his strengths within the new regime I don't know but rather doubt. Whatever, he cannot go on not making or scoring goals from the left wing. It has been a consistent grumble of mine with a succession of wingers and, if Porter's going to play there, the requirements are just the same for him as anyone else.

But right now the alternatives are iffy.

Hayes is injured - and never looked consistent so whether he'd be the best option I don't know.

MA liked to use Sheehan's attacking strengths in a wing-half role that would probably displace Porter but Mattock shows little sign of returning to first team form.

Ferreira may be skillful enough but left his full-back woefully exposed in last week's reserve game.

My suggestion of going 4-3-3 (perhaps using Andy King) is met with a general shock/horror reaction from fans so what do you suggest?

[Simon]

No. You, like others will make an excuse for Fryatt but use is as a stick to beat Porter. In a passing side Porter is perfectly strong enough to play any midfield position.

Whether he will find a role that plays to his strengths within the new regime I don't know but rather doubt. Whatever, he cannot go on not making or scoring goals from the left wing. It has been a consistent grumble of mine with a succession of wingers and, if Porter's going to play there, the requirements are just the same for him as anyone else.

But right now the alternatives are iffy.

Hayes is injured - and never looked consistent so whether he'd be the best option I don't know.

MA liked to use Sheehan's attacking strengths in a wing-half role that would probably displace Porter but Mattock shows little sign of returning to first team form.

Ferreira may be skillful enough but left his full-back woefully exposed in last week's reserve game.

My suggestion of going 4-3-3 (perhaps using Andy King) is met with a general shock/horror reaction from fans so what do you suggest?

Sorry Thrac- you're judging Ferreira on ONE reserve game, yet giving Porter the benefit of the doubt having played double figures in first team football?

[Jimmy]

No. You, like others will make an excuse for Fryatt but use is as a stick to beat Porter. In a passing side Porter is perfectly strong enough to play any midfield position.

Whether he will find a role that plays to his strengths within the new regime I don't know but rather doubt. Whatever, he cannot go on not making or scoring goals from the left wing. It has been a consistent grumble of mine with a succession of wingers and, if Porter's going to play there, the requirements are just the same for him as anyone else.

But right now the alternatives are iffy.

Hayes is injured - and never looked consistent so whether he'd be the best option I don't know.

MA liked to use Sheehan's attacking strengths in a wing-half role that would probably displace Porter but Mattock shows little sign of returning to first team form.

Ferreira may be skillful enough but left his full-back woefully exposed in last week's reserve game.

My suggestion of going 4-3-3 (perhaps using Andy King) is met with a general shock/horror reaction from fans so what do you suggest?

i have made no excuses for fryatt you were simply taking every oppertunity to bash him, before the post i quoted you never mentioned it so it obviously wasn't that big a deal.

Levi has NEVER played as well as you make out, the reason he looked good to start with was because he was being compared to Tiatto and the oppersition new nothing about him, by xmas he had been found out, also he bottles the physical side, puts in poor crosses and rarely beats the 1st man at corners and to top it all he cant be arse to chase a pass that was over hit by the smallest amount possible.

[Thracian]

i have made no excuses for fryatt you were simply taking every oppertunity to bash him, before the post i quoted you never mentioned it so it obviously wasn't that big a deal.

Levi has NEVER played as well as you make out, the reason he looked good to start with was because he was being compared to Tiatto and the oppersition new nothing about him, by xmas he had been found out, also he bottles the physical side, puts in poor crosses and rarely beats the 1st man at corners and to top it all he cant be arse to chase a pass that was over hit by the smallest amount possible.

I certainly did mention it. And I'd say I've been more praising of Fryatt than critical this last eight weeks - including pre-season. I'd even say he's done far more than Cort to deserve a first team recall.

As for your assessment of Porter it is so blinkered it is clearly not worth trying to open your eyes.

[Daggers]

In a passing side Porter is perfectly strong enough to play any midfield position.

That simply doesn't hold water Thrac, as he was off the pace from the start missing pass after pass (to his feet) in the opening quarter of an hour

[Dames]

Is that really Ultra in your sig Daggers?

[Jimmy]

I certainly did mention it. And I'd say I've been more praising of Fryatt than critical this last eight weeks - including pre-season. I'd even say he's done far more than Cort to deserve a first team recall.

As for your assessment of Porter it is so blinkered it is clearly not worth trying to open your eyes.

of course, how silly of me, everyone but you is wrong and we are all blinkered ...

[Thracian]

That simply doesn't hold water Thrac, as he was off the pace from the start missing pass after pass (to his feet) in the opening quarter of an hour

My comment was general and not intended to judge his performance yesterday. I have commented on that already and in particular on his lack of goals/assists which were quite a feature of his early days in the first team.

Although it has already been mentioned that many young players suffer a reaction to their breakthough season the following year there's no doubt Porter needs to get back to being effective again otherwise he lose his place.

His ability won't have disappeared but for whatever reason he's not making the most of it right now and I'll not be judging him on different criteria to anyone else. Indeed, had Hayes been fit, I may well have left Porter out of my Forest side.

He's only in because we need balance, he can work well with Sheehan and because Ferreira didn't look ready yet for the first team.

I still have faith in Porter, no question, but in a certain type of team.

Whether that type of team will ever emerge for City under the new regime I don't know but if not, Porter won't be the only Academy or ex-Academy player facing problems.

[Dames]

My comment was general and not intended to judge his performance yesterday. I have commented on that already and in particular on his lack of goals/assists which were quite a feature of his early days in the first team.

Although it has already been mentioned that many young players suffer a reaction to their breakthough season the following year there's no doubt Porter needs to get back to being effective again otherwise he lose his place.

His ability won't have disappeared but for whatever reason he's not making the most of it right now and I'll not be judging him on different criteria to anyone else. Indeed, had Hayes been fit, I may well have left Porter out of my Forest side.

He's only in because we need balance, he can work well with Sheehan and because Ferreira didn't look ready yet for the first team.

I still have faith in Porter, no question, but in a certain type of team.

Whether that type of team will ever emerge for City under the new regime I don't know but if not, Porter won't be the only Academy or ex-Academy player facing problems.

Porter is not worth building a team around or changing a style to suit the lazy little bugger.

[Tevez]

Porter is not worth building a team around or changing a style to suit the lazy little bugger.

** Who pisses around town eating kebabs.

[Thracian]

Porter is not worth building a team around or changing a style to suit the lazy little bugger.

As a footballer, Porter is not the least bit lazy.

[Jimmy]

when a player refuses to chase a pass that is over hit by the smallest possible amount, HE IS LAZY

[Ric Flair]

I was massively disappointed with Porter on Saturday. It was his big chance to impress Megson, his first start in the league this season. It was one of the worst performances from a winger i've seen in a long time.

He wouldn't have put that sort of performance in last season when he was breaking through in to the first team, when he appeared to have some desire to play. Now he's got a nice contract for a 20 year old kid and he thinks he's made it. His crossing was abysmal, it was embarrassing every time he got the ball.

Thracian claims he's not a winger, but I don't see him having a future at centre midfield for us, so if he's going to waste his chances on the left then his days must be numbered.

He's not stepped up his game since the first few months of last season.

[Thracian]

when a player refuses to chase a pass that is over hit by the smallest possible amount, HE IS LAZY

Or frustrated, pissed off, angry that an opportunity has been carelessly wasted.

You'd have loved playing with me pal. Cos if you played balls like that you'd have been politely invited to chase them yourself.

I never had enough energy to go around wasting it.