Bert Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Exactly, being better than us shouldn't be the criteria to be a 1st team player for Leicester City. Oh your right, but what im trying to say is, he's a professional footballer for a reason. I'd love to see the people slating him do better i really would. I can bet the majority of these people wouldn't be able to last a full game.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Oh your right, but what im trying to say is, he's a professional footballer for a reason. I'd love to see the people slating him do better i really would. I can bet the majority of these people wouldn't be able to last a full game. I doubt he'd be able to do my job but he'd still complain if I dealt with him badly.
Bert Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 I doubt he'd be able to do my job but he'd still complain if I dealt with him badly. Yeah, but job job is sitting on Foxestalk all day.
Finn Claw Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Leiv does a job, He is not a world beater but then no one in our team is. Ideally you would want someone better but I don't think sheehan or Mattock are the answer (though I would like to mattock given a run in the team or sent out on loan). If Ferriera turns out to be good he will repalce Levi though i'm not sure Ferriera is Megson's sort of player. Overall i'm more than happy to have Leiv as back-up. Getting rid is far too strong
Fez of Mahrez Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Yeah, but job job is sitting on Foxestalk all day. :D
Guest Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 All you lot bagging him - he's better than you. Yeah, but I'm bigger than him! Can't really say that about a lot of people, to be fair.
Dames Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 He might be better than us (Technically) but i can garentee right now that anyone of us would put in a hell of alot more effort than he does if we ever pulled on the shirt.
koop. Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 I thought Porter was quite poor. Also I thought Carl Court was terrible why did DJ come off for Chambers when the obvious swap would have been Court off for Deep Freeze? (oh hang on that did happen, in the 90th minute, when we weren't winning, wasting time when it's 1-1 is stupid) SORT IT OUT edit: Clemence was brilliant yet again.
potter3 Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Nonsense. Porter is one of our few players with the skills necessary to ciompete at a higher level - if they are used properly. Apart from not wanting his height in defence and at centre-forward, a team full of people with Porter's ability could take sides apart. Trouble is we don't have such a team - or at least we never play it. If I ever put a quote in my signature it'll be that one He's not as bad as some people make out though, just inconsistent (due to whatever reasons)
Thracian Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Everyone should lay off Levi and start supporting him. He was one of our best players last season, i'm with Thracian on this one. (although) i'm not so sure about being able to take teams apart)All you lot bagging him - he's better than you. Eh up. We've probably ended up with Megson as manager because many of the same folk didn't want Paul Ince. And you have an excellent point about last season. For a time he was the only player to cause an air of expectation. That ability hasn't disappeared but he seems to have been drained of confidence and self-belief. There's got to be something wrong with an attacker when he has his best game of the season away from home. It's as if he stopped having the courage to take people on because of the reaction should his efforts fail. He's got to come through it of course - but the right management can make the world of difference..
Dames Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Eh up. We've probably ended up with Megson as manager because many of the same folk didn't want Paul Ince.And you have an excellent point about last season. For a time he was the only player to cause an air of expectation. That ability hasn't disappeared but he seems to have been drained of confidence and self-belief. There's got to be something wrong with an attacker when he has his best game of the season away from home. It's as if he stopped having the courage to take people on because of the reaction should his efforts fail. He's got to come through it of course - but the right management can make the world of difference.. So can laying off the beer and kebabs. He don't like working hard. Tbh he's not going to get anywhere and thats what he deserves if he keeps this up.
Thracian Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 So can laying off the beer and kebabs.He don't like working hard. Tbh he's not going to get anywhere and thats what he deserves if he keeps this up. Like I said elsewhere. We were winning when he went off. And while he wasn't at his best I didn't see him do anything drastically wrong or the team improve in any way with the changes. Quite the contrary.
Dames Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Like I said elsewhere. We were winning when he went off. And while he wasn't at his best I didn't see him do anything drastically wrong or the team improve in any way with the changes. Quite the contrary. What about missing 2 complete sitters? You say its down to lack of confidence on the contrary i think its down to lack of effort. Even at his best he offers very little he's one dimensional and he can't cross, beat his man or for that matter run very fast.
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Like I said elsewhere. We were winning when he went off. And while he wasn't at his best I didn't see him do anything drastically wrong or the team improve in any way with the changes. Quite the contrary. So this automatically means he was playing well does it. Have a word with yourself your arguements are getting more and more desperate! I'd like to see if Ferirra can do a job there,
Bert Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 No, but when Levi went off, we only managed one more attack in fifteen minutes.
Thracian Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 What about missing 2 complete sitters?You say its down to lack of confidence on the contrary i think its down to lack of effort. Even at his best he offers very little he's one dimensional and he can't cross, beat his man or for that matter run very fast. Porter can do a lot of things well including cross the ball. It's like me saying Fryatt can't shoot (which I never ave) cos he didn't score many last season. Do you think it helps anyone's confidence to hear about views like yours, particularly when they're unjustified like suggesting he makes no effort?. And he does hear them. Some criticism is justified. He's not scoring because he's not forcing his way into dangerous places and not shooting when he gets the chance. He's not making goals because he's not finding enough opportunity to put the ball into dangerous places. He's not causing enough problems to defenders because he's become afraid of failure and is taking the easy option too often - even in forward positions. None of the above are down to lack of ability. They are down to fear of failure.
Milky Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 I just can't believe we conceded a goal with Sheehan on the pitch.
Bert Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 I just can't believe we conceded a goal with Sheehan on the pitch. Now, there's someone who DID have a wank game.
James. Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 They are down to fear of failure. Do you think the creation of unrealistic expectations and overblown hype could go some way to explaining why Porter has a fear of failure?
DB11 Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 As a footballer, Porter is not the least bit lazy. His general performances would suggest otherwise If a ball is played to his feet, and he can keep control of it () then he will run with it and try to take players on but if he loses it, or it is overhit a little, he doesn't try to win it back. He just stops and waits for the ball again. So, when he doesn't have the ball, he is most certainly lazy
Raj Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 Everyone should lay off Levi and start supporting him. He was one of our best players last season Agree with Bert...give the little bugger a chance to mature and learn his trade......then he'll show you what he can do!
Thracian Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 His general performances would suggest otherwise If a ball is played to his feet, and he can keep control of it () then he will run with it and try to take players on but if he loses it, or it is overhit a little, he doesn't try to win it back. He just stops and waits for the ball again. So, when he doesn't have the ball, he is most certainly lazy Why don't you try to get a full video and see how much work Porter does off the ball. In fact at times I have felt the ground he covers in defensive duties detracts from his attacking role. I'm not suggesting that was the case on Saturday. What bothered me Saturday was that he took his full-back on two or three times early on, had no great success, and virtually stopped. After that he did a Hughes by mostly passing responsibility elsewhere or at least strictly limiting the risks he took. He has to show more belief and the management must help him. Lambasting a winger for losing the ball in the defensive half is understandable but in the attacking half you need the winger to take risks and try things. And management needs to let him know he'll never be penalised for persisting. Only for copping out. Coaches need to get him to talk to his marker. To tell the defender he's going to make a bad mistake soon. That sooner or later he'll give away a goal. They should make him understand that he need to prey on a defender's mind as well as his skills, find out which foot is his weakest, which way he least likes turning. Vary the style of attack, sometimes passing, sometimes taking him on, sometimes running at him, sometimes turning him, sometimes stopping and starting, anything to disrupt his rhythm and ask him uncomfortable questions that will finally force a mistake. Tell him to make the defender hate you and kick you. Get him on a caution and wind him up more when you've done it. Move elsewhere and try and take the defender with you and if he does tell him what a great big gap he's left. If he doesn't move, go back and say you've returned cos it's easier. Or perhaps stay for a while and break the other defenders heart. All part and parcel of the psyche of the game which is a mental as well as physical challenge. So much of winning at football is in the mind and there is so much a coach can do to get a winger back to his best. Both on match days and on the training ground. Porter's skills haven't disappeared but his focus has clouded. He needs remember again the most important things he's paid for. Making and scoring goals.
Joe. Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 I still stand by my opinion that Levi can be a decent player. He just needs more consistency in his game. From a good perspective, whenever he's made substitute appearances this season, I've been very impressed and found myself asking the question "Why isn't he starting?". So when he does finally start it comes as disappointment when he doesn't play to his full capacity. We all know what he can do. We saw it last season. Personally I don't buy the opinion of him that he can't be arsed- he's a young player and his place in the team/squad is not guranteed. I can't think of a reason why he wouldn't try, he's hardly an established player here.
Simi Posted 17 September 2007 Posted 17 September 2007 No, but when Levi went off, we only managed one more attack in fifteen minutes. Maybe that had something to do with the defence minded subs ? Hence no attacking play at all.
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