Time to get rid of Levi Porter

[Thracian]

Because this thread is about Levi Porter.

Also, I believe all the other players mentioned to be better than Levi. They have more ability. Even if Levi really applied himself (which would be nice), he's not in the same league in terms of quality as Chambers, N'Gotty and Kisnorbo.

As for Kishishev, I'll reserve judgement until I've seen him play for us.

You'll believe what you like. Whether it has any bearing in reality or not. I'm not going to pull the players you mention apart just to score some cheap points. It wouildn't be worth it anyway. If you were a racehorse, I doubt they'd let you run at all without blinkers. Anyway I'm off to The Walkers now.

[The People's Hero]

You'll believe what you like. Whether it has any bearing in reality or not. I'm not going to pull the players you mention apart just to score some cheap points. It wouildn't be worth it anyway. If you were a racehorse, I doubt they'd let you run at all without blinkers.

If you were a racehorse, they'd shoot you.

[Jimmy]

You'll believe what you like. Whether it has any bearing in reality or not. I'm not going to pull the players you mention apart just to score some cheap points. It wouildn't be worth it anyway. If you were a racehorse, I doubt they'd let you run at all without blinkers. Anyway I'm off to The Walkers now.

were as your not blinkered in your opinion at all

[Thracian]

were as your not blinkered in your opinion at all

I certainly don't have a perpetual down on any individual. In fact I'd be pleased if they all played well.

[Ric Flair]

It has long been noted that you will and have taken every opportunity possible to knock the lad and you've prompted me to add what I had deleted from my previous post that there are other more senior players who are underperforming too right now.

I also remember when the beloved Kisnorbo and Fryatt went for whole spells when they were awful - Kisnorbo because he was played out of position in midfield and Fryatt because of fitness problems, form problems and questionable attitude. Did you ever campaign against Fryatt? Quite the contrary.

You really are two-faced.

Even taking Saturday, Porter did nothing especially bad and we were winning when he left the field after nearly 80 minutes. In unspectacular ways he had made a sound enough contribution without being near his best.

But that same day Chambers looked dire when he came on, N'Gotty looked less than his best, Kishishev awful, Kisnorbo made a couple of glaring errors. Why do you always focus on young players when they are below their best rather than anyone else?.

The problem is Thracian. Fryatt and Kisnorbo haven't got a spokesman like yourself who prattles on all day every day about them, which riles fans. Therefore when players like Porter and Sheehan prove that they aren't really that good, it's inevitable that the fans that have to listen and read your constant stream of superlatives are going to take the opportunity to voice their disappointment at the boy wonders.

I've noticed that any player you do rate highly, if other fans agree, then you go off them. Your main passion is fighting the cause for mediocre youngsters that other fans aren't won over by. If they do come good, then you take great pleasure in being right, but then you'll soon focus your attention on the next flash in the pan.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Levi shouldn't be in the first team until he can prove himself

[Guest]

I'd like to know who it is that is heckling Porter from the stands so effectively, because the only real criticisms being thrown about in the part of the ground where I sit have been directed towards MDV.

[Thracian]

I'd like to know who it is that is heckling Porter from the stands so effectively, because the only real criticisms being thrown about in the part of the ground where I sit have been directed towards MDV.

Where's the thread on MDV?

[teblin]

Where's the thread on MDV?

Must have been done many times!

[Ric Flair]

Where's the thread on MDV?

There isn't a spokesman for de Vries like there is for Porter and Sheehan.

[Thracian]

Levi shouldn't be in the first team until he can prove himself

He's proved himself stacks of times. I didn't see the replacements Saturday doing anything to make the situation better. Quite the opposite.

In fact I wish Porter had stayed put because I am quite sure that, apart from replacing the knackered Cort with what should have been a forward, I am quite sure we would have won the game comfortably had we kept playing as we were.

And being an Aussie why don't you get on at Kisnorbo for his cock-ups?. Cos the equalising goal came straight down the middle with a totally unchallenged shot from his workspace.

[Ric Flair]

He's proved himself stacks of times. I didn't see the replacements Saturday doing anything to make the situation better. Quite the opposite. In fact I wish Porter had stayed put because I am quite sure that, apart from replacing the knackered Cort with what should have been a forward, I am quite sure we would have won the game comfortably had we kept playing as we were.

Means nothing though really. The substitutions were a dreadful choice, but that doesn't take away the fact that Porter was abysmal against QPR. Just because Kishishev was bought on for him and equally as bad means nothing. Kishishev isn't a left midfielder and he's very defensive, was a poor decision but doesn't negate from the fact that Porter was still shit.

Crossing was horrendous, no thought process behind most of them. For example the cross to absolutely no-one in the first half when Cort had got free from the defence and all he needed was a decent ball and he'd of had a free header at goal.

Couldn't beat his man.

Didn't look for any over lapping from Sheehan who was often available.

Shooting was piss poor. Missed a golden opportunity when arriving at the back post from less than 6 yards, didn't even hit the target. Had Kishishev, Fryatt or Cort missed that then you'd have an essay of vitriol at the ready for them.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

He's proved himself stacks of times. I didn't see the replacements Saturday doing anything to make the situation better. Quite the opposite. In fact I wish Porter had stayed put because I am quite sure that, apart from replacing the knackered Cort with what should have been a forward, I am quite sure we would have won the game comfortably had we kept playing as we were.

And being an Aussie why don't you get on at Kisnorbo for his cock-ups. Cos the equalising goal came straight down the middle with a totally unchallenged shot from his workspace.

I don't need to he plays more good games than he does bad so he doesn't need people blowing up his tyres

[Thracian]

I don't need to he plays more good games than he does bad so he doesn't need people blowing up his tyres

He's grossly over-rated from what I've seen. And while it is only speculation that he put in for a transfer, if he had done and I'd been in MM's shoes, he'd have gone with my best wishes.

[Fez of Mahrez]

He's grossly over-rated as far as I am concerned.

Thread topic: Levi Porter.

Finally an admission!!

[The People's Hero]

He's grossly over-rated as far as I am concerned.

When Levi Porter and Louis Dodds are full internationals, I might start to take you seriously.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

He's grossly over-rated from what I've seen. And while it is only speculation that he put in for a transfer, if he had done and I'd been in MM's shoes, he'd have gone with my best wishes.

Porter

[Thracian]

When Levi Porter and Louis Dodds are full internationals, I might start to take you seriously.

I can't imagine any circumstances I'd take you seriously.

Being a full football international for Australia convinces me of nothing (as you well know) and I don't recall him getting particularly good reports anyway.

Or Australia doing well.

[ronnup]

He's grossly over-rated from what I've seen. And while it is only speculation that he put in for a transfer, if he had done and I'd been in MM's shoes, he'd have gone with my best wishes.

Some irony there I'm sure. Porter played well on occasion last year, but his smattering of creativity looked better than it was in a field that had a complete lack of any creativity. He closed down well on saturday and worked hard. As for creating. Very little, didn't seem to have the spark. Perhaps a little intimidated by the new squad. Who knows. But over-reated? If people were to look at what soem folk say about Porter on this Forum, and then watch him saturday. They'd agree with this thread's focus.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

I can't imagine any circumstances I'd take you seriously.

Being a full football international for Australia convinces me of nothing (as you well know) and I don't recall him getting particularly good reports anyway.

Or Australia doing well.

Last 16 of the world cup isn't anything to sneeze about and we did only lose to Italy by a 92nd minute dubious Penalty when we had dominated all game

[The People's Hero]

Last 16 of the world cup isn't anything to sneeze about and we did only lose to Italy by a 92nd minute dubious Penalty when we had dominated all game

You wouldn't have conceded with Sheehan at the back.

[demon_dog]

Thought Porter on Saturday had a poor game, some very poor crosses to no-one anywhere near.

Seemed to be lacking in pace, all in all not one of his best games.

I do seem to recall not so long ago some threads were praising him for certain matches.

It seems people have short memories.

I think he is just an average player, nothing special and no way as bad as some of you make out.

As for the subs made on Saturday, agreed that they weren't the best, but Megson did not pick the team.

Porter looked tired so had to be replaced.

The problem was the subs we had were not attack minded players. They were defensive ones.

The choice is what do you do?

Leave poor performing players on the pitch or replace them and hopefully hold on for the win.

I just think Cort should have been replaced half an hour earlier as he did not seem to be playing well.

I certainly think that MDV could have made a difference.

That's saying something 'cos I'm not am MDV fan!!

[Dr The Singh]

Some irony there I'm sure. Porter played well on occasion last year, but his smattering of creativity looked better than it was in a field that had a complete lack of any creativity. He closed down well on saturday and worked hard. As for creating. Very little, didn't seem to have the spark. Perhaps a little intimidated by the new squad. Who knows. But over-reated? If people were to look at what soem folk say about Porter on this Forum, and then watch him saturday. They'd agree with this thread's focus.

I agree, although they are many a mediocre player in our squad, porter has been neither so poor or so magnificant..............mediocrity is rank within our squad, and time will tell whether Megson can spepearate the mediocre guff from the talent!!! If Porter is constantly being played out of position as suggested, he may well be on borrowed time!!

[SOCCERROO FOX]

You wouldn't have conceded with Sheehan at the back.

We probabbly would have scored in the 92nd

[Thracian]

There isn't a spokesman for de Vries like there is for Porter and Sheehan.

I didn't start this thread. Nor have I started any thread about Porter for months. What do you expect. That I stand back and let people who never or hardly ever watch him verbally kick him silly.

As stated elsewhere Porter's covering and support play was fine on Saturday but he seems to have lost the confidence to be creative. Some say kick him out I say put it right. That would be my view about many players, not just Porter.

This "throwaway" attitude will get us nowhere. What is it, another seven players wanted in on loan by various people on here last time I checked? And others calling for people they've never seen to be put in the first team.

No wonder the discontent is starting to surface within the club. It's becoming like a Brian Rix farce.