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[davieG]

Rangers to bid for Leicester fullback Mattock

tribalfootball.com - December 09, 2007

Rangers are moving for Leicester City fullback Joe Mattock. The People says Ibrox boss Walter Smith thinks he could be the answer to his club's problem position and the Foxes could cash in.

[Manwell Pablo]

Rangers to bid for Leicester fullback Mattock

tribalfootball.com - December 09, 2007

Rangers are moving for Leicester City fullback Joe Mattock. The People says Ibrox boss Walter Smith thinks he could be the answer to his club's problem position and the Foxes could cash in.

Interesting.

[Master Fox]

Cash in.

I wonder if Sunderland are still after Maybury?

[Fat Ron]

I hope this isnt true... He has been one of the only decent players so far.

I doubt that Mattock could afford to turn this down if it is true though, Champions League Football with the chance of a trophy or 2... He aint gonna get that here!!!

[SamL]

I hope this isnt true... He has been one of the only decent players so far.

I doubt that Mattock could afford to turn this down if it is true though, Champions League Football with the chance of a trophy or 2... He aint gonna get that here!!!

I doubt this is true. If Rangers want to be doing well in the league and in Europe then they need to be going for experience.

Mattock is one for the future but his displays this season have been very inconsistent.

I hope we can keep hold of him.

[MPH]

Rangers to bid for Leicester fullback Mattock

tribalfootball.com - December 09, 2007

Rangers are moving for Leicester City fullback Joe Mattock. The People says Ibrox boss Walter Smith thinks he could be the answer to his club's problem position and the Foxes could cash in.

mixed feelings about this.

I want him to stay- in a couple of seasons he will be real, genuine quality. But, as promising as he is, a real good left back and left Mid is needed and Mattock is not yet ready to set this division alight with his skill...

[Fez of Mahrez]

For a good Championship left-back, Rangers would be looking at about £2million. For a 17-year-old who has already broken into the England Under-21 squad, we should be looking for more.

As an aside, I think this is a magnificently made-up load of bollocks but still.

[davieG]

For a good Championship left-back, Rangers would be looking at about £2million. For a 17-year-old who has already broken into the England Under-21 squad, we should be looking for more.

As an aside, I think this is a magnificently made-up load of bollocks but still.

[Mark]

He'll do much better staying put and getting a move to one of the big four in England in a couple of years time, so long as he doesn't do a Stearman.

[Mark]

Oh and any full back / player is going to be inconsistant in our joke of a team, but Mattock has shown more promise than the lot so far.

[The People's Hero]

This is a load of bollocks.

That said, if they wade in with £2million that we can waste on semi-retired balding-but-once-good shi tters from the Baltic States, I'm as game as the next man (and he's worryingly game).

[Thracian]

I alluded to the fact last season that Leicester have always intended to cash in on Mattock. Hence the speed he's been "fast-tracked" which was the phrase used to me not by me at a time when the lad was attracting interest from two of the country's top four clubs.

Indeed had Mattock been full fit from day one I very much doubt that Sheehan would have had anything like the involvement he's been given and yet, to this day, Mattock has yet to score and has only been involved in one assist since his first team career started.

Sheehan has an excellent record of goals/assists plus all the other near things I've mentioned yet was still dropped for the West Brom game with the result that City conceded two goals in a League game for the first time since September 22, an incredible 14 games back. And on a day we created virtually nothing.

While much criticism has focused on Stearman, little has been said about the far post header for West Brom's opening goal but had Sheehan been the man meant to cover that post there'd have been all sorts of grumbles.

I would love to hear the manager's explanation for his choice of Mattock instead of Sheehan because Sheehan's abilities from set-pieces were seriously missed and, good as Mattock is, especially for his age and experience, he doesn't have anything like the same attacking impact as the Irishman.

I'd have probably played both but, like I've mentioned elsewhere, the place is full of politics.

Two million plus significant extras might well be the basis for discussion over Mattock but City do value the lad extremely highly - and rightly so.

[morris1234]

I alluded to the fact last season that Leicester have always intended to cash in on Mattock. Hence the speed he's been "fast-tracked" which was the phrase used to me not by me at a time when the lad was attracting interest from two of the country's top four clubs.

Indeed had Mattock been full fit from day one I very much doubt that Sheehan would have had anything like the involvement he's been given and yet, to this day, Mattock has yet to score and has only been involved in one assist since his first team career started.

Sheehan has an excellent record of goals/assists plus all the other near things I've mentioned yet was still dropped for the West Brom game with the result that City conceded two goals in a League game for the first time since September 22, an incredible 14 games back. And on a day we created virtually nothing.

While much criticism has focused on Stearman, little has been said about the far post header for West Brom's opening goal but had Sheehan been the man meant to cover that post there'd have been all sorts of grumbles.

I would love to hear the manager's explanation for his choice of Mattock instead of Sheehan because Sheehan's abilities from set-pieces were seriously missed and, good as Mattock is, especially for his age and experience, he doesn't have anything like the same attacking impact as the Irishman.

I'd have probably played both but, like I've mentioned elsewhere, the place is full of politics.

Two million plus significant extras might well be the basis for discussion over Mattock but City do value the lad extremely highly - and rightly so.

good post thrac. couldnt agree with you more! but you rightly put that the 2mill plus fees would be a talking point for negotiation! mattock is a great talent and if it was up to me i wouldnt sell him for a barrel of monkeys

[Staf]

I hope this isnt true we should sell him in a few years when he is a U21 regular

[Cheese Me]

Why would we want to sell.

We've got far worse players than him to ditch.

Also he's 17 - do you really think he'd be desperate to up sticks and live in Glasgow???

[Jimmy]

Why would we want to sell.

We've got far worse players than him to ditch.

Also he's 17 - do you really think he'd be desperate to up sticks and live in Glasgow???

Champions League ... impress there the BIG FOUR will be interested

[Joe.]

Depends what their offer would be I think.

Something silly under £1,000,000 and we'd be a bit foolish to sell. £2,000,000 and above and I think we'd be foolish not to.

[dog_4]

like everyone else, been crap all season. I'm not quite seeing how we have an array of quality kids at leicester. I havent seen mattock,stearman,chambers or sheehan shine like a bale or walcott. There all just average kids being over hyped.

[Ultra]

Sheehan's record of assists (plus a couple of goals) this season speaks for itself. But he's still a long way from the finished article.

Mattock's made the England under-21s, but that tells us more about the worrying lack of quality English left-backs than anything else.

Chambers is at least two years away from holding down a regular first-team place (at least in this league).

That leaves Stearman, whose decline becomes more notable with each game that passes. He really needs a break from the first-team to rediscover his game, yet Holloway, stubborn as ever, continues to insist that he knows best. This does neither the player or the team any favours.

I don't see how promoting any of the other Academy products, into a side already low on confidence, is going to help their development. Indeed, it could end up doing them more harm than good.

[Father Ted]

Rangers to bid for Leicester fullback Mattock

tribalfootball.com - December 09, 2007

Rangers are moving for Leicester City fullback Joe Mattock. The People says Ibrox boss Walter Smith thinks he could be the answer to his club's problem position and the Foxes could cash in.

Is a 17 year old kid, playing for the team he has supported all his childhood really going to risk his career so early and go to sunny Scotland?

[Asha]

Is a 17 year old kid, playing for the team he has supported all his childhood really going to risk his career so early and go to sunny Scotland?

They all do, thinking their going to be a first team regular. Never quite happens though, does it?

[Ultra]

Is a 17 year old kid, playing for the team he has supported all his childhood really going to risk his career so early and go to sunny Scotland?

Shilton, Lineker and Heskey all took the money when it was offered to them. Why should Mattock be any different?

But I very much doubt whether Rangers will bid for him..

[Thracian]

like everyone else, been crap all season. I'm not quite seeing how we have an array of quality kids at leicester. I havent seen mattock,stearman,chambers or sheehan shine like a bale or walcott. There all just average kids being over hyped.

They've not been overhyped and no-one's claimed anyone is Bale or Walcott. Leicester's first team youth players have been the best players we've had available and have thoroughly justified their places in the context of available alternatives.

Unfortunately our young players were developed in a unit in which fast passing and high pressing football were the norm.

They might have expected the same though faster in the first team but, unfortunately, many of our senior players, while being fairly good in other ways, are not great passers and are not generally great athletes.

That's not a comment on their age because other clubs like Southampton, Burnley and West Brom get older players who are excellent passers, are quality on the ball and who have the engine to compliment their skills.

Injuries have only exaggerated our problem and have also demanded that we've probably had to field more youngsters than we would wish in weakened and disjointed teams.

The other point I'd make is that our Academy graduates are still learning and are having to do so in the company of average or below-average Championship players instead of with Premiership full internationals which are helping Bale and Walcott.

I saw Walcott play down here with Southampton and he hardly got a kick and Bale has had his fair share of bad uns according to my middle son who's a Southampton fan and has followed his career closely.

I thought the likes of Kishishev and N'Gotty would really help these lads forward, together with five or six other quality signings throughout our side but Kishishev has gone out on loan, N'Gotty has slipped out of favour for whatever reason. Many other supposedly exciting signings have failed to even displace the youngsters you so glibly dismiss.

Some seniors have stood tall. Fulop unquestionably, McAuley and Kisnorbo apart from their passing, N'Gotty when he's played, Clemence has tried though his form has been patchy as has Hume and one or two others on occasions. But where are the rest? For too long at this club it is not the young players who have fallen short but too many of the overpaid imports.

Go through our squad and ask which players have made a contribution to parallel those of Stearman, Mattock, Sheehan, Wesolowski and King. There are a few. But there's one hell of a lot who can't and not necessarily because they haven't tried either. Don't you find that pretty damning?

[Hullfox]

They've not been overhyped

[Eastern Fox]

Good post. Our young players have a poor environment to develop in: constant changes in the staff and squad, lack of quality experienced players to learn from (instead mainly idiots like Cort). Hopefully we will have some consistency under Holloway and he bring in some older quality players. Too much is being expected of Mattock, King, Chambers by playing them in the first team as it is against a team as tough as West Brom.