xxinxsxx Posted 2 February 2008 Posted 2 February 2008 Same old leicester ,Different manager ,different team .But still the Same old leicester .Will we ever change????????
syston_fox Posted 2 February 2008 Posted 2 February 2008 Well, that was a pretty damn poor performance. We really should be going to places like these and winning.More importantly, it was a great away day. Winning Goleo was naturally the high part. Throwing him around the stands until it was chucked over the back was genius. "we want our teddy back" It was a great day out though - one of the best of the season without a doubt!
Lillehamring Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 To date, not one person has had a pop at you. You have been wibbling on for weeks now because of some perceived challenge to your right to debate.No one has. The point has been directed at the little ignorant children...but if you feel comfortable in their company then go ahead and indulge. davieG, have a word with your son - tell him to stop making a total twat of himself and hand him his toys back...they're going to be pretty worn by now with all the pram chucking that's gone on. I'm sure his abusive tirades must make you so proud. even in this post you are having a pop at me, because i don't have a chip on my shoulder... i'm not writing these things for attention, i'm writing because there is a very real sense of intimidation on here just lately, the fact that several people agreed with my last post backs this up. i was trying to post during the game today, and felt obliged to have to keep saying 'it sounds like' before every thought i had. people who can't make the games, especially those of us who live abroad, do not need to be told that we 'invalidate everything we say' by not attending, that's just not true, and that is 'having a pop', especially when, as has happened, we are not passing judgement on the game but just what we have heard, even worse when we have seen the game on TV, people often chose to watch a televised game on tv because they DO enjoy a better experience of the game, and get to see it from the perspective of the 'best seat in the house' and as for John Barber, i have been as outspoken about his faults as anybody, yet i would be the first to admit he has improved an awful lot with regard to attention to the game and his descriptive content. many people have simply accepted that he is a target for ridicule and will fail to acknowledge his usefulness (in much the same way people treat thracian) as far as i am concerned, barber is no different to anybody who posts on this board, other than additionally he sees every game, he is sober, he is not sitting behind a goal, and significantly, he does not wear the rose tinted glasses of a lot of city fans. naturally, i take nothing he nor anybody on this site may say as gospel, but by the same token even if i am at a game myself i will never see anything with complete accuracy. and as for my dad, perhaps his is the opinion who i rely on most, and i know that he sometimes sees what he wants to see, and he knows that i only make a fuss about something if i genuinely feel i have a case. and that case is that, it is not up to people on this form to tell people what they may or may not comment on, and to just dismiss any such comments is really insulting and not in the spirit of the board, this is not just me on a campaign, i'm speaking for many that are perhaps less confident about rocking the boat. there's nothing i'd like more than to see every game, please don't make this loss worse by making me feel bad about sharing other peoples experiences, and certainly insuting me and people like me by suggesting we can't be bothered or are to cheap to put our hands in our pockets.... ...rant over. i hope you'll finally undersatnd that this is not a tantrum, but a genuine concern for the good of this forum.
Bryn Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 zzzzzzz Is your life really that empty? The way you go on is no positive improvement on the woes you lament.
Maybes Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 I'm beginning to wonder if I'm going to seriously regret saying Holloway should get til Christmas to sort our team out.Ultra is right. If Hollaway wants to be critical he should start with himself. And by the time he's finished dealing with that aspect it'll be late into the night and he'll have fallen asleep. Make no mistake Leicester weren't unlucky. Blackpool got the ball in our net three times and had several other good chances. Just like his mentor MON, Grayson's team had people who did things. specialists in their job. Not world beaters, Blackpool can't afford that, but people who represented particular components who he'd blended together in a complimentary unit. Some things are written in football and Dickov scoring was written in capital letters but we still let it happen. All the way home I've wondered if Michael Jackson should be City's manager cos we're in Never Never Land thinking about the Premiership. You don't get into top grade football with our mentality. The game should have been over in the first half, or even the first five minutes when the home side went ahead after an earlier goal had been disallowed for a questionable offside. The goals were virtually identical in construction. Longish ball over and between centre-back and full-back, genuine wide man and friends running on to it as City claimed offside, thank you very much. Leicester's good fortune was that Grayson went into caution mode instead of going for the throat and City survived until half-time with only two or three genuine chances to trouble them. Holloway replaced Mattock and Laczko with Chambers and Campbell - no argument with those decisions - and after some settling in Leicester enjoyed 15/20 minutes of decent pass-and-move football at the end of which Howard scored his goal - a simple one but clinically taken from Hume's low pass. Blackpool at this stage looked somewhat like a busted flush. But just when we needed more of the same we changed, Just Like That! Whether specific orders were issued I don't know - there were conversations on the side with players who clearly went running off to deliver instructions - but, whatever, the passing and moving, stopped, attacking players were suddenly left without support and while never trying to run time down we certainly never for a moment chased a winner. And once the quick, early closing down ended and we started sitting further back Blackpool introduced fresh, positive players and really went for victory, timing the inevitably worrying introduction of Dickov perfectly. And who better to have in the box around sluggish, basically aerial defenders than the impish, always alert Dickov? And how we paid for not dealing with him either by continuing to play high and keep him away from the penalty box or by having a fast, mobile defender like Stearman to mark him. So basically we were nieve. We would clearly have settled for the draw which goes with the theory of win at home, draw away and which is, sadly, forever flawed. That's not the right attitude. We failed to make plans for Dickov. We changed a method that was working for one that didn't and even removed goalmaker Hume for no reason or purpose I could understand. There were other factors. Hume out of postition, Chambers out of position, Laczko in a world of his own with no apparent sense of direction and Mattock being Mattock, of mixed ability in defence and of no consequence going forward because he always had enough to cope in other areas. I was with the home fans and their verdict on Leicester was damning ... "not up to much at all." And that was cold reality at half-time among themselves, not while they were throwing taunts at their rivals from the stands. I thought it would be hard to contain myself in Blackpool's main stand but we had seven shots all told, three were on target and I can't remember any of them apart from the goal because they were all instantly forgettable. There were no saving graces. It wasn't an awful performance like Hull or Burnley away by all accounts. We just lacked too many required skills and, on top of those skills, we lacked character, cohesion, leaership and, most important thje attitude needed to win football matches. I said we'd need to score two goals at least to take anything and we failed in that quest because we never really tried to score twice. They won because they tried to win and our battle is at the relegation end, make no mistake about that. And so many of the people who might have offered worthwhile options have either gone or been sidelined. Bizarre. Very good post thracian. Couldn't argue with any of that. We looked very lacklustre. Truly terrible game.
Bert Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Well, that was a pretty damn poor performance. We really should be going to places like these and winning.More importantly, it was a great away day. Winning Goleo was naturally the high part. Throwing him around the stands until it was chucked over the back was genius. I have a picture of him outside the "stand" on my mobile telephone. Weather conditions were very poor today, but they were the same for both sides, although, the wind picked up in the 2nd half. Really enjoyed the atmosphere, and the Bouncing (Half on my account) was fookin' cold though.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 To be honest mate, i can bet my life that i been to more Leicester games home and away then you. Your just one of them typical idiots who jumped on the leicester band wagon when we moved to the walkers like most Leicester fans these days. People support Leicester because of the Walkers Stadium
Hugo Sanchez Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 People support Leicester because of the Walkers Stadium Kinda true, When we was at Filbert St we hardly ever sold out. Even got 16,000 for a cup semi final before. Alot of people didn't go Filbert St for a family day out. They went to watch a game of football and have a sing song. The Walkers is a soul less american type stadium and that is what wrong with Football these days. A half empty Filbert St was alot louder then a packed Walkers Stadium. People go along these days because its something you can take the whole family too and bring a pack lunch and go on the bouncy castle outside or buy candy floss Too american these days ... Did you ever go to Filbert St may i ask ?
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Kinda true, When we was at Filbert St we hardly ever sold out. Even got 16,000 for a cup semi final before. Alot of people didn't go Filbert St for a family day out. They went to watch a game of football and have a sing song. The Walkers is a soul less american type stadium and that is what wrong with Football these days. A half empty Filbert St was alot louder then a packed Walkers Stadium. People go along these days because its something you can take the whole family too and bring a pack lunch and go on the bouncy castle outside or buy candy floss Too american these days ...Did you ever go to Filbert St may i ask ? No i haven't cos i was only 15 when we last played there and the first time i went to England was when i was 17 so missed it unfortunetly. But i just find it very hard to believe that people just start supporting LCFC because of a stadium.
Steven Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 ach, i'm sick of this elitist bullshit, these so-called paragons of wisdom...at no stage have i tried to suggest that 'a particular event' occured today, all i have done is raise questions and yet anything i say is somehow invalidated because i wasn't in attendance. brilliant. so, all i am supposed to do is sit back and listen to what people may or may not have seen. yes, of course being at a game gives you a position to pass on information, but why should that prevent me from particiipating in discussion. if i want nothing more than an eyewitness account i'll buy a newspaper and read a professional and unbiased report. what tiresome snobbery has ruined this forum in the space of a few months, used to be a time when i felt comfortable discussing a game with people who did or did not go to the matches, now i feel like i can't write a word without some kind of disclaimer, some humble apology for my worthless and wholly inaccurate thoughts (even when they happen to fall inline with the opinions of those who were at the game). patronising, self righteous killjoys... no wonder TPH doesn't venture into this self satisfying hole of miserable anally rentetive pricks. it's only a freakin game, why do you people feel the need to police a forum that serves the intrinsic pupose of providing a vehicle for debate, why insist on common sense in the discussion of football, and why, for god's sake, demand some kind of virtual membership to be entitled to discuss the team we are all here because of. Top post. Expresses the feelings that many foxiles like myself have about the requirements there seem to be nowadays to express an opinion or indeed pose a question in this forum, and worse on another forum as well.
samuel Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 I've said his signings are nowhere near good enough and worryingly we're stuck with this lot now plus Clapham who hardly gives me much hope.The fact Ollie was moaning about having no choice but to play strikers on the wing in the Southampton Cup match and has today reverted back to that is a major concern. You had an extra option Ollie but you sent him back out on loan without seeing him in a match, really poor management in my opinion as you could never rely on two Hungarians never to play in this country before. You can't revert forward!!!! Holloway is no worse than the grammar on this board, it's piss poor.
Steven Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 You can't revert forward!!!!Holloway is no worse than the grammar on this board, it's piss poor. I laughed so much I coughed.
samuel Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 even in this post you are having a pop at me, because i don't have a chip on my shoulder...i'm not writing these things for attention, i'm writing because there is a very real sense of intimidation on here just lately, the fact that several people agreed with my last post backs this up. i was trying to post during the game today, and felt obliged to have to keep saying 'it sounds like' before every thought i had. people who can't make the games, especially those of us who live abroad, do not need to be told that we 'invalidate everything we say' by not attending, that's just not true, and that is 'having a pop', especially when, as has happened, we are not passing judgement on the game but just what we have heard, even worse when we have seen the game on TV, people often chose to watch a televised game on tv because they DO enjoy a better experience of the game, and get to see it from the perspective of the 'best seat in the house' and as for John Barber, i have been as outspoken about his faults as anybody, yet i would be the first to admit he has improved an awful lot with regard to attention to the game and his descriptive content. many people have simply accepted that he is a target for ridicule and will fail to acknowledge his usefulness (in much the same way people treat thracian) as far as i am concerned, barber is no different to anybody who posts on this board, other than additionally he sees every game, he is sober, he is not sitting behind a goal, and significantly, he does not wear the rose tinted glasses of a lot of city fans. naturally, i take nothing he nor anybody on this site may say as gospel, but by the same token even if i am at a game myself i will never see anything with complete accuracy. and as for my dad, perhaps his is the opinion who i rely on most, and i know that he sometimes sees what he wants to see, and he knows that i only make a fuss about something if i genuinely feel i have a case. and that case is that, it is not up to people on this form to tell people what they may or may not comment on, and to just dismiss any such comments is really insulting and not in the spirit of the board, this is not just me on a campaign, i'm speaking for many that are perhaps less confident about rocking the boat. there's nothing i'd like more than to see every game, please don't make this loss worse by making me feel bad about sharing other peoples experiences, and certainly insuting me and people like me by suggesting we can't be bothered or are to cheap to put our hands in our pockets.... ...rant over. i hope you'll finally undersatnd that this is not a tantrum, but a genuine concern for the good of this forum. Go on Son.. This board needs intelligent debate, i'm afraid it's main inhabitants are not able to participate in that. A duffers clique is more than apparent on this board and the sooner it's realised that the clique is nothing more than a few spotty adolescents the better. Regardless of whether someone has attended a game or not, they can voice an opinion surely?. I attend very few, not for any reason other than i have my own business, that needs my time more thn LCFC at present and i'm fcuked if some spotty little oik is going to tell me i don't support them because i don't attend!!
samuel Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 I laughed so much I coughed. It's called Tautology......look it up.....
Simi Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 What about Laczko ? Ched said he was awesome. What the **** are you on about you complete fook wit. Get a life and try and mount a decent footballing argument when you do. You're embarrassing yourself endlessly. Read back through the comments and tell me where I said he was awesome. I've not offered an opinion as I didn't go. Tosser.
xxinxsxx Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Spot on. Home and away on a hole the lads never look like they wont to win.WE DESERVE BETTER Very good post thracian. Couldn't argue with any of that. We looked very lacklustre. Truly terrible game.
RowlattsFox Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Stearman got booked so he is suspended next week, finally we'll be able to see whether Chambers is better than him, unless N'gotty plays there of course.
Guest Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 I love the way that people are getting their knickers twisted re: the "I didn't go" debate. My understanding is, and Daggers can correct me if I'm making the wrong assumptions here, not that people who do not go to the game are not allowed an opinion, but that it is rather annoying to have a person who did not go to a game telling those who did go to the game that their opinions are wrong/badly formed/biased etc etc. As someone who does go to the game, I find this just as insulting as being told that I'm not a worthy fan for not going. But hey ho....
James. Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Go on Son.. This board needs intelligent debate, i'm afraid it's main inhabitants are not able to participate in that. Well thank f**k for your contributions, the last one of which drew parallels with Ronaldo and Laczko. Idiot.
Yaxx Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Holloway is no worse than the grammar on this board, it's piss poor. Surely pisspoor is one word??
Leicester Lass Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 More importantly, it was a great away day. Winning Goleo was naturally the high part.Throwing him around the stands until it was chucked over the back was genius.
Steven Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 I love the way that people are getting their knickers twisted re: the "I didn't go" debate. My understanding is, and Daggers can correct me if I'm making the wrong assumptions here, not that people who do not go to the game are not allowed an opinion, but that it is rather annoying to have a person who did not go to a game telling those who did go to the game that their opinions are wrong/badly formed/biased etc etc.As someone who does go to the game, I find this just as insulting as being told that I'm not a worthy fan for not going. But hey ho.... To a point. I feel that any opinion by a non-attendee is marginalised and even questions and other comments. I do agree however that having gone it does give a greater degree of certainty (and that is all) to comments about how City played. After all even if two people go to the same match it is almost always true that they see things differently. In that scenario how useful has the attendance been.
Lillehamring Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 Well thank f**k for your contributions, the last one of which drew parallels with Ronaldo and Laczko.Idiot. oh come on, is there any need for that... really, all this name calling is out of hand, we're all on the same side here, we're all leicester city, just cause someone has a different opinion or uses a particular example or metaphor to express it, doesn't make them an idiot, and even on occasions when it does, why do people feel the need to resort to name calling. when are people gonna remember that this is an open forum for debate about footy - respect someones opinion, debate it resonably or ignore it , there is no need to get personal and resort to contumely. a little peace and understanding brothers and sisters.
Guest Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 To a point. I feel that any opinion by a non-attendee is marginalised and even questions and other comments. I do agree however that having gone it does give a greater degree of certainty (and that is all) to comments about how City played. After all even if two people go to the same match it is almost always true that they see things differently. In that scenario how useful has the attendance been. This is what gets me though. For example, me and the other half can disagree on things that go on during the game, and yet there are people who are happy take a third person statement on the game as gospel. I don't know, it's like some people are more than happy to reserve judgment and keep an open opinion on something whereas others have to have a say on it no matter what. This is where the conflict lies, in my opinion. But then again, it is only an opinion, so please shoot it down if needs be.
James. Posted 3 February 2008 Posted 3 February 2008 oh come on, is there any need for that...really, all this name calling is out of hand, we're all on the same side here, we're all leicester city, just cause someone has a different opinion or uses a particular example or metaphor to express it, doesn't make them an idiot, and even on occasions when it does, why do people feel the need to resort to name calling. when are people gonna remember that this is an open forum for debate about footy - respect someones opinion, debate it resonably or ignore it , there is no need to get personal and resort to contumely. a little peace and understanding brothers and sisters. Yes there was a need for that. He was mouthing off about how inhabitants of this forum are incapable on intelligent debate and are all spotty little oiks. Well I know for a fact that is wrong because 1. I can look in a mirror and 2. I have met some of the more intelligent posters on here. Nevermind the fact that he clearly hasn't got a clue what he is talking about when it comes to football. Ronaldo, Laczko, same sentence, yeah... ok. He IS an idiot and I'll f**king tell him that because hopefully he'll take a look at what he's said and realise that I'm telling the truth. And the last thing I need is you getting all pompous because Daggers has rattled your cage. This is an internet forum not a hippy commune and banter, insults and arguments are all part of what keeps it going. If you're getting intimidated then I suggest you stop taking it so seriously. I respect much of what you say but trying to impose some kind of peaceful harmony is a pointless task and one that overall would be of little benefit to this place. It needs arguments, debate, banter and a few insults here and there. In any case "idiot" is like a pat on the back compared to some of the vitriol that gets spouted!
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